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RE: What about these "Money Doms"? - 9/29/2007 11:45:43 AM   
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I thought boobs were for getting out of speeding tits--er--TICKETS...

It looks like you've got some nice man-boobage of your own going on there.  Try flashing them the next time you get a ticket.  Sauce for the goose, you know...

What's your real deal?  Are you just jealous because no one wants to pay you or are you trying to save all the poor, helpless men who don't buy their baggage where you shop and just have a different kink than you?

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RE: What about these "Money Doms"? - 9/29/2007 11:51:16 AM   
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Is porn illegal?
Also how can you equate a prostitute and a hitman? No one asks a hitman to shoot them in the head. If someone takes risks with their sexual health that is their problem and both parties can control and ensure safe sex.

Also does every ProDomme include sex as part of the contract? I think not. Indeed I think you’ll be hard pressed to find a decent one that does because that is the main distinction between ProDomme and Prostitute. Why would a ProDomme have sex with you when she can shove a strapon up your arse? Mute point maybe.

No, porn's not illegal--except childporn--and there are even loopholes to THAT, because there's a demand for it!
I listed assassination as another "service" there's a "demand" for...even though it has a decidedly negative impact (pun intended) on society.
As to taking risks, condoms break, at least when one's religion "allows" condoms at all...(Most religions in the civilized areas of the world preach abstinence, but those portions are carefully avoided or redacted, so they have license to have sex, but are prohibited from taking the required precautions! Their hands are tied--pun intended!)
Bush also preaches abstinence, which may be an additional incentive NOT to practice it...
The reason I speak only of condoms is that physical barriers are the only things that block the spread of disease...IUDs and "Da Pill" do not, as is listed in their voluminous fine-print!
If you want a strapon jammed up your ass, why not find a Domme that CARES about you, rather than only after your money?

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RE: What about these "Money Doms"? - 9/29/2007 12:01:05 PM   
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What's your real deal?  Are you just jealous because no one wants to pay you or are you trying to save all the poor, helpless men who don't buy their baggage where you shop and just have a different kink than you?
~stef

Of COURSE I'm jealous, I actually have to WORK for a living!
That's the thing about having a conscience and not winning the Genetic Lottery...You know, not phenomenally handsome, or the dark/scruffy/angsty thing that seems to be "in" nowadays(!)...Or marrying some TV star twice my age...Or good at sports, making more money than small countries...You know, all those shortcuts to success!
Hmm, that might be the reason some men call sex "getting lucky"?
As to flashing to get out of a ticket, there WAS a guy locally who flashed his man-boobs at a cop, all he got was clowned on one of the back pages of the newspaper...
Although when a WOMAN "flashes"--even if her nipple just HAPPENS to be covered by a metal shield--she'll get nationwide EXPOSURE, and somehow that's a GOOD thing! Or, of course, the cameras will always be shocked and turn away, putting a person, place, or thing, between the All-Seeing-Eye and the titflesh...Since when did America get so mammarophobic?

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RE: What about these "Money Doms"? - 9/29/2007 12:01:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		Maybe someone desires to be stripped of all their worldly possessions and reduced to nothing it isn’t for me or you to say that’s wrong. What on earth are you bringing religion into this for unless you think any religious text can be reinterpreted to show BDSM activities in a positive light?

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RE: What about these "Money Doms"? - 9/29/2007 12:08:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		There's a book called "The Surrendered Wife", that shows D/s in a positive light using religion as a reason...
The religious bit was because that's the normal excuse nowadays for people to skip condoms...They didn't "forget", they are still responsible in their decision-making (give or take a few), it's their RELIGION that is preventing them from safe sex! (And if you believe that, there's a bridge near my office that I can sell to you on Monday...)
Moreover, once one of these guys IS stripped of all their money/etc., who will take care of them? Certainly not the "pro", she got what she wanted, all she cares about is money...Rags-to-riches recoveries are rare these days...So the victim, however much he might "deserve" to be impoverished (Fool and money soon parted, etc.), will probably become just another welfare bum...Put whatever PC wording in there that you feel appropriate...

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RE: What about these "Money Doms"? - 9/29/2007 12:15:06 PM   
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There's a book called "The Surrendered Wife", that shows D/s in a positive light using religion as a reason...
The religious bit was because that's the normal excuse nowadays for people to skip condoms...They didn't "forget", they are still responsible in their decision-making (give or take a few), it's their RELIGION that is preventing them from safe sex! (And if you believe that, there's a bridge near my office that I can sell to you on Monday...)


Either sex is wrong or right before marriage and has nothing to do with safe sex. If anyone blames the fact they got AIDS on the Catholic Church telling them that condoms are evil then they are idiots. That being said I go back to my previous point that two people are responsible for safe sex and you can’t blame a prostitute if you end up with it.

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RE: What about these "Money Doms"? - 9/29/2007 12:19:09 PM   
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Moreover, once one of these guys IS stripped of all their money/etc., who will take care of them? Certainly not the "pro", she got what she wanted, all she cares about is money...Rags-to-riches recoveries are rare these days...



Right, reading between the lines, you're uncomfortable with women, and you've never had your cock sucked. 'No use blaming the money pros; develop a sense of humour and a positive approach, and it'll all fall into place.

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RE: What about these "Money Doms"? - 9/29/2007 12:19:20 PM   
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Either sex is wrong or right before marriage and has nothing to do with safe sex. If anyone blames the fact they got AIDS on the Catholic Church telling them that condoms are evil then they are idiots. That being said I go back to my previous point that two people are responsible for safe sex and you can’t blame a prostitute if you end up with it.

So you don't consider it "Assault With a Concealed Deadly (Bio)Weapon"?
After all, since she's selling sex, and people lie for protection and gain, her "forgetting" to reveal she was diseased would be protecting her method of gain, right? No responsibility attaches to her whatsoever?

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RE: What about these "Money Doms"? - 9/29/2007 12:21:08 PM   
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So the victim, however much he might "deserve" to be impoverished (Fool and money soon parted, etc.), will probably become just another welfare bum...Put whatever PC wording in there that you feel appropriate...


It's a game that rich people play with spoilt girls. No one ends up poor as a result. So you don't have the money, you take the moral high ground instead.

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RE: What about these "Money Doms"? - 9/29/2007 12:21:29 PM   
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Of COURSE I'm jealous, I actually have to WORK for a living!
That's the thing about having a conscience and not winning the Genetic Lottery...You know, not phenomenally handsome, or the dark/scruffy/angsty thing that seems to be "in" nowadays(!)...Or marrying some TV star twice my age...Or good at sports, making more money than small countries...You know, all those shortcuts to success!


You're in the computer business, right?  Make a cheap website with a few pictures that don't necessarily have to be yours, put some random insults on it, and put a payment form on it.  Then start a posting flood on hot-button topics/sections on message boards to get your name out there.  Probably would take you less than an hour, really.  Then do one of two things:

Collect the monies and insult them via email.  Enjoy your new job!
-or-
Never respond to people after they pay you (or respond and tell them they're a sucker), and never actually collect the money.  Give them a good scare--they probably won't check to see if the transaction went through until they've post complaints on every single message board they know of.  And if they notice, they'll probably chalk it up to an error in their favor.  Once someone has been "scammed", it's pretty unlikely they'll come back for more.  It'll be far more effective at putting the financial folk out of business than posting about them.

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RE: What about these "Money Doms"? - 9/29/2007 12:21:30 PM   
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Also, I was fairly sure I posted on "Off Topic Discussion"...How did this get moved to "Polls and Other Random Stupidity"?

LOL!  Because the Moderators decided that "Polls and other Random Stupidity" was where this thread belonged..  I think I agree with the Mods on this one.

I mean, seriously....  Basic economics Epgah.  There is a DEMAND for Money Dommes so some women are kind enough to SUPPLY the Money Dommes.

I am purposely leaving your statement regarding:

How they should leave our lifestyle
 

alone.  Wayyy too easy...

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RE: What about these "Money Doms"? - 9/29/2007 12:25:34 PM   
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So you don't consider it "Assault With a Concealed Deadly (Bio)Weapon"?
After all, since she's selling sex, and people lie for protection and gain, her "forgetting" to reveal she was diseased would be protecting her method of gain, right? No responsibility attaches to her whatsoever?


There was a case in the UK where a man was proven to purposely infect a number of women with HIV after he had been told he had the disease. I would only consider this biological GBH. Some man being careless and having sex with a prostitute that probably doesn’t know she has the disease is hardly in the same league.

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RE: What about these "Money Doms"? - 9/29/2007 12:27:44 PM   
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lol.. wow CM is paying chicks to spell check lol


Correct english and correct spelling are huge buttons with me..  Personally, I cannot stand when people spell things wrong..  That's just me..

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RE: What about these "Money Doms"? - 9/29/2007 2:18:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		Mommmmm!!  Adults in a free market are consensually exchanging currency for goods and services again!!  Make them stop!!

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RE: What about these "Money Doms"? - 9/29/2007 2:35:17 PM   
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RE: What about these "Money Doms"? - 9/29/2007 2:43:48 PM   
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If people are sending them money, they must be doing so because they're getting something out of it, right?  Otherwise why would they do it?  Are you familiar with the concept of supply and demand?

If the process is truly so abhorrent to you, perhaps you should consider focusing your bile towards the people who keep the machine running, those who SEND the money.  If no one was sending the money, the "scum" would be out of business, right?

~stef


Why can't people grasp this simple concept? NO one is being forced to send money to ProDom/mes they do it voluntarily. Yet people bitch about it like they are being forced to turn over their paychecks to some leather clad Dominatrix threatening them with a oversized strapon.

Come on people wake up. If you don't want to pay a Pro then don't it is as simple as that. Bitching about the Pro's will not make them go away, taking away their paying customers will. If someone is in violation of TOS then report it to the MODS and let them deal with it as they see fit.

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RE: What about these "Money Doms"? - 9/29/2007 2:44:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sometimes they are considered busy bodies.  However, people exchange money for goods and services all the time.  There is nothing illegal about it.  There is nothing illegal about financial domination either.  You may not like it but why bother with a rant about something you don't understand or care for?  Those who like it particpate in it.  Those who do not, don't participate in it.  It's pretty simple.  This is a valid kink for many people.  I don't understand why you are so upset by it.  Just leave it alone if it is not for you.  Simple.

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RE: What about these "Money Doms"? - 9/29/2007 2:56:12 PM   
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Even in our "free" economy, there are limits on what you're supposed to/not supposed to sell...Or even GIVE! Otherwise, the DEA (Government) and RIAA (Corporate) would be considered massive busybodies...


They *are* massive busybodies. 

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RE: What about these "Money Doms"? - 9/30/2007 2:21:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		You know, I have not been here all that long, but I can tell you that this topic has been dragged through the barbs over and over and then some…..and some…….and some more. If you are really interested in what others have to say about it, use the search facility.

Look, what part of this are you not getting? 1) Supply and demand. 2) Nobody is forcing, coercing, or intimidating money out of these fools, they do it because it is their kink. A side note, though some money Dommes won’t admit it, they are being topped from the bottom, it is the guy in control - they cater to the guys fetish, if they didn’t, they wouldn’t get that money. It is not all that hard to understand.

It is hardly comparable to drug dealing, prostitution etc (not that I think there is anything morally wrong with prostitution in itself).

Why whinge? People are going to indulge with or without your blessing. Some guys are stupid enough to want to do it, some Ladies supply the service. Are you suggestion that you alone should create a ‘nanny’ state, where by everybody conforms to your standards and self reinforcing prejudice motivated out of jealousy?

And you know what? I have to work also, I have to grind and slug it out several days a week, so do a lot of people, why whine because somebody else has it seemingly easier?

I suggest that you have it easier than me. I mean, I bet you get paid more, and have a reasonably reliable income, I am not moaning about that. Damn it, because I’m self employed and my income fluctuates, then so should your income be as unreliable. Stupid, isn’t it?

If you don’t like it, then don’t indulge, laugh at the absurdity and move on. Put the energy into something constructive.

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RE: What about these "Money Doms"? - 9/30/2007 5:30:05 PM   
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Actually, I think the ones who whine most are jealous about it...Who WOULDN'T want money just for being attractive? Although there IS a double-standard inherent there: No man is worth anything if he's "living off his woman"--but a gold-digger, while despised, is accepted, and apparently, even defended!
As to illegal, yes, there is supply and demand, but if you accept that, wouldn't you also have to accept drug-dealers and hitmen, since they make money, there must be a demand for them too, should that be acceptable too?
But prostitution is illegal largely because of safety issues...Witness the huge scare when the pornstars (Prostitution with a camera) discovered they might have AIDS...And yes, I know there are countries where it's legal and the whores are tested, like India, but when they discover they are infected, they just move to a less-developed area and continue spreading their disease...

Hi,

I know you're new here.  Here's three threads that are long, which illustrate some of the opinions related to prostition.  They're well worth the read. 

Sex workers in the BDSM and D/s lifestyles

legalizing prostitution?

In short, I think you've adopted the same sugar coated opinion that the church and politicians have used for years to tell you not to go somewhere they can't tax or control you, because you might hurt yourself.  I encourage you to do your own research, and especially take a look at models of how prostitution impacts other western societies.  Same with the drug issue.

I think you'd be shocked to learn how many politicians wouldn't have jobs, if there was no drug war for them to 'proudly' fight.

Assassination isn't a problem for me, anymore than owning a gun is.  The issue with murder for hire is rooted in the taking of someone else's life.  This is, of course, assuming we're talking about murder within the US.  Do you consider the state sponsored assassinations that our government is directly responsible to be ethical, just because it's legal?  Would you have hired a hitman to kill Hitler if you could have?

I understand there is strength in numbers, and the desire to please society is strong for some people.  I'm way fine with folks like that voicing their opinions and voting in the way they do.  But when they do open their mouths, they should fully expect to be called on their bullshit; you're welcome to live your life and hate on anyone you like.  The second you start demanding others live the way you do, you'll find a heap o' resistance; but I think that's what this thread is showing you.

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