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RE: "Partners on behavioural Meds..." - 10/3/2007 10:38:21 AM   
Prinsexx


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and PS Bob...if you set fire to my dinner I would get amnesia too.........



roflmao

I -did- learn never to start cooking a meal and -then- have sex while waiting.





but seriously Bob...sex first dinner after ok?

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RE: "Partners on behavioural Meds..." - 10/3/2007 10:38:46 AM   
Bobkgin


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Sad thing about depression is that if it's not that severe you can live with it an entire lifetime.  Like Bob is doing. 



I wouldn't say it is "sad".

I could have retreated from reality through a drug-induced fog, or booze, or sex, or any number of distractions.

But I'd have had to do that for my entire life, never coming to grips with reality.

Reality may be depressing, but at least its real.

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RE: "Partners on behavioural Meds..." - 10/3/2007 10:40:44 AM   
Bobkgin


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ORIGINAL: Prinsexx

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and PS Bob...if you set fire to my dinner I would get amnesia too.........



roflmao

I -did- learn never to start cooking a meal and -then- have sex while waiting.





but seriously Bob...sex first dinner after ok?



As long as you don't mind breaking your fast around 11 PM.

Sex around here takes a -long- time.



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RE: "Partners on behavioral Meds..." - 10/3/2007 10:41:58 AM   
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You know...this shit is BEYOND ridiculous....I can't BELIEVE I'm saying this but I hope mod11 locks this and EVERY thread a certain person KEEPS ruining for others by the SENSELESS needling and "I know it all listen to me." bull shit...and I think we all know WHO i am speaking about. Frankly I am sick of this persons negative impact on every thread they seem to visit.

breathing as one,
I would disagree. Where ignorance and inexperience is concerned; to be 'enlightened' requires more exposure, more light. Its only dangerous when hidden and the weak and naive have no alternative position to consider.

"Withdrawing" and/or censorship are characteristics of the weak and cowardly. Those traits are best exposed through open debate. 

Mercnbeth
I tend to agree with most you've said here, and understand the point you are making. 

For example:
A month ago, I had one opinion of a person, after watching numerous circular debates where those who disagreed were baited, ridiculed and demeaned - my opinion changed drastically.  Exposure definitely brought about a degree of enlightenment.

However, withdrawing from a total waste of time is not something I'd call cowardly.  Its just common sense.  If someone is deliberately or subconsciously obtuse and quarrelsome - why feed their need for attention?

Winsome,
Granted a easier and more practical route would be to sit back, enjoy the entertainment value, and remain silent. I find myself sliding toward that position more and more. However there are occasions where the comment or position is so disjointed from reality or so inconsistent with observed or enjoyed experience; it can't be ignored.

Think in terms that it isn't their obvious need of attention that is being served. Also served is exposure to a credible alternative position; hopefully without any representation of it being a "one true way". The inclusionary versus exclusionary stance alone provides valid reasoning.

Consider the topic at hand. If psychology or psychiatry "works" for me but doesn't or didn't work for you, does that invalidate that it does work for me? Of course not. The same is true with medication be they OTC, prescribed, home grown, or 'legal' and/or taxed 'medications' such as coffee, tea, chocolate, alcohol, or sugar. ALL, in some form or fashion, change the brain chemistry.

There is also much to be said regarding the differing quality of the individuals given the titles "Doctor" or "Therapist". Keep in mind that the sheepskin on the wall doesn't show the grade. Fifty percent of practicing doctors graduated in the bottom half of their graduating class. Which points to another consideration. A Doctors business is considered a "practice". Remember at all times they are "practicing" on you.

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RE: "Partners on behavioural Meds..." - 10/3/2007 10:42:40 AM   
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RE: "Partners on behavioural Meds..." - 10/3/2007 10:44:10 AM   
xoxi


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Status: offline 		I would also like to point out that due to my monitor having strange lines on it I read the word "therapist" as "the rapist" which really freaked me out.

That is all.

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RE: "Partners on behavioural Meds..." - 10/3/2007 10:49:01 AM   
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And you are welcome to a fixed opinion. I have said this once and i'll say it again...I am not here as a therapist just as a pansexual switch......but there are reasons why i feel qualified to have certain opions about what therpay is and isn't (for me)



The you in my quote was not the second person singular but the second personal plural, a generic you if you will and not addressed to your personal issues as I neither know nor care to know them.

My comments were based on your sweeping generalization that anyone, at any age, and no matter how long they have suffered before receiving effective medical treatment needs no therapy.

If you meant that in the first person singular, your post did not reflect that.

And my fixed opinions are those of a parent whose now 18 year old mentally ill daughter is the first person with her specific and extremely rare condition to; graduate high school, enter college, compete in any venue other than the Special Olympics. Diagnosis and onset occurred two years prior to the first effective medication being permitted to be used on a pediatric or adolescent. She is fully expected to be the first to survive past age twenty, she is the first female with this not to be pregnant before age 16, first not to be sexually promiscuous, not to become a drug addict etc.

And she's spent the four years since the medication was started, and the two years since she's been on the correct mix of medications at the correct dosages learning all the things I listed while also becoming one of the top 100 student athletes in her sport.

Just the opinion of a person who has been called the top child advocate they've ever met by no less than one of the top pediatric neurologists in the field and also by the head of special education for one of the nation's largest growing education systems.

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RE: "Partners on behavioural Meds..." - 10/3/2007 10:49:22 AM   
Prinsexx


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As long as you don't mind breaking your fast around 11 PM.

Sex around here takes a -long- time.




(off-piste but it helps the depression)...why do you think courgettes, bananas and cucumbers are some of my favourite toys?....oh yeah and Mars bars

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RE: "Partners on behavioural Meds..." - 10/3/2007 10:49:57 AM   
Bobkgin


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ewwwww icky thoughts





Come now.

What better way to prove you are uninhibited than to have sex with me?




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RE: "Partners on behavioural Meds..." - 10/3/2007 10:53:38 AM   
Bobkgin


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ORIGINAL: Prinsexx

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ORIGINAL: Bobkgin


As long as you don't mind breaking your fast around 11 PM.

Sex around here takes a -long- time.




(off-piste but it helps the depression)...why do you think courgettes, bananas and cucumbers are some of my favourite toys?....oh yeah and Mars bars


Makes the meal more flavourful, of course.



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When all is said and done, what will you regret?

That you never really lived?

Or there was so much living left to do?

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RE: "Partners on behavioural Meds..." - 10/3/2007 10:59:21 AM   
Prinsexx


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Just the opinion of a person who has been called the top child advocate they've ever met by no less than one of the top pediatric neurologists in the field and also by the head of special education for one of the nation's largest growing education systems.


If you need my personal admiration then you have it.........

If you need to reject my first person or third person statements then do that as well......

if you need to defend your position do that also...
and if you aren't clear about my generalisations that's also ok.....

I admire you
I don't care if you reject what I say
I am glad you can defend both yourself and obviously your daughter
and yes I am the first to admit to being inclear because most of the time I experience other's clarity as as defensive..........my own included...........


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RE: "Partners on behavioral Meds..." - 10/3/2007 10:59:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		Mercnbeth,

I never lose sight that a medical doctor is practicing on me.  This has become evident through various tests and the occaisional (and need I say distressing) scratch of the head and look of bafflement on their faces.  

Regarding the need to enter into debate with someone, because of blatant inconsistencies, knowing all the while it will likely end in yet another head-banging waste of time; I understand that sometimes it just isn't an option to remain silent.  In fact, I can see how allowing a fallicy to be perpetuated without attempting to bring it to light, would be to almost condone it.  Sometimes you just have to pick your poison, I guess.

I just find that I inevitably end up kicking myself for being dragged into a mess that winds up having my thoughts associated with the negativity.  I commend those who can and do engage the quarrelsome head-on, and come away unscathed.  I usually come away exhausted and unsatisfied.  Once I've identified a losing battle, I leave it to those who feel compelled, to fight the good fight. 

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RE: "Partners on behavioural Meds..." - 10/3/2007 11:00:56 AM   
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And my fixed opinions are those of a parent whose now 18 year old mentally ill daughter is the first person with her specific and extremely rare condition to; graduate high school, enter college, compete in any venue other than the Special Olympics. Diagnosis and onset occurred two years prior to the first effective medication being permitted to be used on a pediatric or adolescent. She is fully expected to be the first to survive past age twenty, she is the first female with this not to be pregnant before age 16, first not to be sexually promiscuous, not to become a drug addict etc.

And she's spent the four years since the medication was started, and the two years since she's been on the correct mix of medications at the correct dosages learning all the things I listed while also becoming one of the top 100 student athletes in her sport.

Just the opinion of a person who has been called the top child advocate they've ever met by no less than one of the top pediatric neurologists in the field and also by the head of special education for one of the nation's largest growing education systems.


Good for her she had an advocate like you in her life!  i am glad she's doing well now.   Imagine going through this even only 20 years ago


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RE: "Partners on behavioural Meds..." - 10/3/2007 11:13:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		if i had a therapist a condescending as you, i'd tell her to get fucked...and spread the word...this is not the first time i've had this opinion of your posts....

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RE: "Partners on behavioural Meds..." - 10/3/2007 11:24:29 AM   
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Sad thing about depression is that if it's not that severe you can live with it an entire lifetime.  Like Bob is doing. 



I wouldn't say it is "sad".

I could have retreated from reality through a drug-induced fog, or booze, or sex, or any number of distractions.

But I'd have had to do that for my entire life, never coming to grips with reality.

Reality may be depressing, but at least its real.


What i find sad is that you will never truly know if it is "reality" that is depressing you or your skewed interpretation of it because of an imbalance in your brain's chemistry.  There are things in this world no one can change, fact of life, why waste time being depressed about it - that sounds rather irrational to me.  The world is going to end one day, i am going to die one day - well hell what's the point in living, i might as well get depressed now over this inevidable situation.  Maybe for you your depression is worn like a badge of honor - giveing you a martydom status - Look how concerned i am for the world!  i don't know - but staying depressed  has some interest for you. 

Many who are depressed say the same kinds of things you say, only to find after they get treated with meds they see life as if looking through different glasses - like the lenses have been cleaned and they can finally see clearly.  You'll never know because you close yourself off to the possibility.


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RE: "Partners on behavioural Meds..." - 10/3/2007 11:30:55 AM   
xoxi


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Come now.

What better way to prove you are uninhibited than to have sex with me?





LOL...I may claim to be a lot of things but uninhibited isn't one of them...I'll keep my inhibitions tyvm but I do think that you have a definite future with Prinsexx...and you can even have DBG come along to be your beta bitch

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RE: "Partners on behavioural Meds..." - 10/3/2007 11:34:22 AM   
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xoxi
LOL...I may claim to be a lot of things but uninhibited isn't one of them...I'll keep my inhibitions tyvm but I do think that you have a definite future with Prinsexx...and you can even have DBG come along to be your beta bitch


I think you have something there.  Dunno who DBG is, but Prinsexx and Bob seem to have a great deal in common.  I bet they'd make a great couple.  Where is our resident matchmaker when we need her? 


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RE: "Partners on behavioural Meds..." - 10/3/2007 11:36:06 AM   
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ewwwww icky thoughts





Come now.

What better way to prove you are uninhibited than to have sex with me?




Bob how the heck would sex with you prove inhibition??
Like so so so much in this thread, that statement makes no sense.

I'm beginning to think that I'm a lot more masochistic than I ever knew. . .


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RE: "Partners on behavioural Meds..." - 10/3/2007 11:44:15 AM   
xoxi


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Status: offline 		DBG is DefiantBadGirl...someone was playing matchmaker on another thread with her and Bob...and considering he's looking for 2 slaves I see no reason this can't all work out.  I know Prinsexx is into chicks too...and I'm sure DBG would poke a pussy if her master told her to...

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RE: "Partners on behavioural Meds..." - 10/3/2007 11:48:34 AM   
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My twisted, self deprecating, sense of humour, finds alot to laugh about, in your lack of one!

Just because you are well educated, articulate, and can use big, fancy words, properly........does not mean you are right!

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