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RE: Alpha Personalities. - 10/3/2007 8:17:26 PM   
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RE: Alpha Personalities. - 10/4/2007 7:39:01 AM   
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I am an alpha submissive and I am submissive only to my Domina.
 
I am usually Dominant when it comes to men and my good male friends are usually of the submissive type. With other females it depends on how strong their personality is one way or the other.
 
I don't have a problem in life having this split, my main concern would be my relationship with my Domina, where I tend to relish my submissiveness.
 
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RE: Alpha Personalities. - 10/4/2007 10:29:46 AM   
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Well dang. I feel like a freak cuz yes I do have trouble! Doing something in an 'alpha' manner is a struggle. Usually I try and pretend I am one of my sisters because she is most definitely an alpha w/o any sub.
It doesn't feel natural to take charge but at the same time I am a total perfectionist who feels if it is to be done right I have to do it. So I do it, then end up pretty much exhausted from the unnatural effort.
Awww am I a weirdo??

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RE: Alpha Personalities. - 10/4/2007 12:55:12 PM   
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Well dang. I feel like a freak cuz yes I do have trouble! Doing something in an 'alpha' manner is a struggle. Usually I try and pretend I am one of my sisters because she is most definitely an alpha w/o any sub.
It doesn't feel natural to take charge but at the same time I am a total perfectionist who feels if it is to be done right I have to do it. So I do it, then end up pretty much exhausted from the unnatural effort.
Awww am I a weirdo??


Not in the least bit! Inless I am one too... lol

I am so naturally submissive to men that when I find one that I need to be more assertive with I struggle. And on the flip, I have always been in a position of leading women in the activities I have been involved with since I was 8. So now to be put in a position where I need to serve and be under them I struggle alot! Especially if I just dont feel they are at my same strenght capasity. If that makes any since..

Its kind of a survival of the strongest thing...

Hope I am making some small amount of since.
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RE: Alpha Personalities. - 10/4/2007 12:56:07 PM   
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I'm very much like you.  And i'm just fine with it making  me a weirdo :)

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RE: Alpha Personalities. - 10/4/2007 2:02:46 PM   
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I don't find it hard to be submissive to my superiors at work or to that one woman who I hope to serve but when I'm online playing xbox live I'm usually the one barking out orders and leading the squad to victory. I don't know why I'm like that online I guess its because I'm shy and I'm afraid of peoples reactions to when I'm dominant because when I'm dominant I'm an asshole lol.

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RE: Alpha Personalities. - 10/4/2007 7:05:55 PM   
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soo....

then we can agree that if you are sometimes submissive to certain people and dom or equal to others that would gear more towards switch?  I think its important to know sort of what you are. so you can work it. :) 

part of submiting to a man when its selective has alot to do with the mans mojo, not being a slave.  going ga ga makes a vanilla girl go submissive for a man too. goes both ways. a vanilla girl isnt transformed into a slave because she will do anything for her man.  but if a girl would do anything (you know what i mean) for just about anyone, that would make her a submissive. 

so to wrap it up and I am sure i will be corrected if i am wrong...

a sub is to most everyone

a slave is to all worthy

a switch is selective on who they are sub or dom too.

a dom/domme is to most everyone

Master Mistress ext is to all worthy

Yes this is like 101 basics but i think there are a lot of people out there that dont know what they are and are pretty new to understanding it all. 

Hope it helps!

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RE: Alpha Personalities. - 10/4/2007 7:17:07 PM   
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Do you all find it difficult to give switch over the mindset of being dominating in some circumstances and being a submissive in others?

Ally


Angel is a definate Alpha personality, with everyone except me. Some days he does have trouble switching out of the dominant problemsolver mode for work and into the Mommy's baby mode for me. Sometimes, he doesnt, if the moods just arent right. He is always my slave, but to what extent he gets into it varies. This is real life, and I dont worry about it as long as I know what he is, and he knows what he is.
Thankfully, that Alpha personality can come in very handy.  When I was having car problems and was very stressed, Angel was easily able to step in and make decisions and get things done. Its interesting to watch the boy that curls up into my lap most days being over the top aggressive with the mechanic becasue he thought the guy was trying to get one over on me becasue im female.


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RE: Alpha Personalities. - 10/4/2007 7:49:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: wewantaslave

soo....

then we can agree that if you are sometimes submissive to certain people and dom or equal to others that would gear more towards switch?  I think its important to know sort of what you are. so you can work it. :) 

part of submiting to a man when its selective has alot to do with the mans mojo, not being a slave.  going ga ga makes a vanilla girl go submissive for a man too. goes both ways. a vanilla girl isnt transformed into a slave because she will do anything for her man.  but if a girl would do anything (you know what i mean) for just about anyone, that would make her a submissive. 

so to wrap it up and I am sure i will be corrected if i am wrong...

a sub is to most everyone

a slave is to all worthy

a switch is selective on who they are sub or dom too.

a dom/domme is to most everyone

Master Mistress ext is to all worthy

Yes this is like 101 basics but i think there are a lot of people out there that dont know what they are and are pretty new to understanding it all. 

Hope it helps!


No not really,

If you read back on this thread you will see many slaves and submissives that have alpha personalities. Being a switch means that I enjoy dominanting as much as submitting, Which isnt the case for me. I enjoy submitting, I find it very calming and relaxing. It is when I am most in my element. But how could I survive in the world if I bowed down and let everyone walk over me? Just because I like to be a slave in my personal life, dosent mean I should be one at work..

You have your definitions wrong there sorry.

txslave

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RE: Alpha Personalities. - 10/4/2007 7:52:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: txgirlneedsister

quote:

ORIGINAL: wewantaslave

soo....

then we can agree that if you are sometimes submissive to certain people and dom or equal to others that would gear more towards switch?  I think its important to know sort of what you are. so you can work it. :) 

part of submiting to a man when its selective has alot to do with the mans mojo, not being a slave.  going ga ga makes a vanilla girl go submissive for a man too. goes both ways. a vanilla girl isnt transformed into a slave because she will do anything for her man.  but if a girl would do anything (you know what i mean) for just about anyone, that would make her a submissive. 

so to wrap it up and I am sure i will be corrected if i am wrong...

a sub is to most everyone

a slave is to all worthy

a switch is selective on who they are sub or dom too.

a dom/domme is to most everyone

Master Mistress ext is to all worthy

Yes this is like 101 basics but i think there are a lot of people out there that dont know what they are and are pretty new to understanding it all. 

Hope it helps!


No not really,

If you read back on this thread you will see many slaves and submissives that have alpha personalities. Being a switch means that I enjoy dominanting as much as submitting. Which isnt the case for me. I enjoy submitting, I find it very calming and relaxing. It is when I am most in my element. But how could I survive in the world if I bowed down and let everyone walk over me? Just because I like to be a slave in my personal life, dosent mean I should be one at work..

You have your definitions wrong there sorry.

txslave


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RE: Alpha Personalities. - 10/4/2007 7:59:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: wewantaslave

Yes this is like 101 basics but i think there are a lot of people out there that dont know what they are and are pretty new to understanding it all. 

Hope it helps!


Count yourself among the really new and needing to understand it.
Your definitions are your own.
Angel is a slave, and he is slave ONLY to me. He is very dominant elsewhere, which doesnt make him a switch, just an alpha personality.
I am Mistress (ack, i hate that word) and Mommy, and owner to him alone.
I dont think that anyone in any of the distinctions is whatever to EVERYONE

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RE: Alpha Personalities. - 10/4/2007 8:18:53 PM   
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I tend to be submissive to all. In my professional life, I have always worked in a support role. Currently, I am a personal assistant/full charge bookkeeper/glorified secretary to an entrepreneur. Its a one girl office, and he is semi-retired so only comes in a couple of days a week. In addition to performing the general, everyday duties that keep the businesses running, he says "do this" and I do it.  In that respect, it is much like my homelife, except without the love and sex.

I am not a good supervisor or manager of others. I work well alone and I work well under direct management. I am aware of my limitations and I don't take on responsibilities that I know I am not suited for.

On a side note, I get overly annoyed at what I perceive to be wimpy or wishy washy men. I think its probably because, by nature, I want to be submissive to them (because I want to be submissive to all) but they make it overly difficult by not keeping their part of the bargain, lol. This is my own perceptional problem, and I bite my tongue often and laugh at myself a little inside.

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RE: Alpha Personalities. - 10/4/2007 9:28:26 PM   
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I was wondering how everyone dealt with having an alpha personality and being a slave/submissive

I deal with it by accepting it and being "alpha" when necessary.  I submit to Master but not all men or anyone else for that matter.  I have a strong personality and am not afraid to speak my mind or take charge of a situation when I need to.  I have had supervisory and management jobs and had no difficulties with that. 

When I am with Master, however, I don't feel the need to control anything.  I submit to Him by choice and I "feel" submissive in His presence.  With others, that is simply not the case.  Thus, having a sort of "alpha" personality is not in conflict with my submissiveness to Him................luci

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RE: Alpha Personalities. - 10/4/2007 9:31:34 PM   
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Nope because my personality has nothing to do with my orientation. 

Ok.  Explain please.  I don't understand..............luci

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RE: Alpha Personalities. - 10/4/2007 9:48:36 PM   
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I am not completely Submissive to anyone once i am collared then i will completely submit to the one i am ment to be with and who i am told to
other then that i will always have a alpha personality
 
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RE: Alpha Personalities. - 10/5/2007 5:30:09 AM   
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Hello to all in the forums. :)

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Do you all find it difficult to give switch over the mindset of being dominating in some circumstances and being a submissive in others?


For me, the answer to this one is yes.

I don't identify as a Gorean, and am not submissive at all in my work and vanilla interpersonal relationships.  Mindset is absolutely one of the most challenging things I work on.  When I'm with a Dominant I trust, I can give in completely (and that's heaven), but otherwise, for me, yes it can be very difficult to go back and forth.

Not sure the ramble above helped whatsoever!  Just thought I'd throw my two cents in.  And again, hello to all.

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I feel it difficult to switch back and forth.  I have a naturally submissive personality but then I tend to have very strong opinions, I feel strongly about who and when I submit to someone.  I will happily follow someone's lead (of course) at work a colleague at same or above level or even one below if they have a good idea.  But if I feel they are not treating me well or bullying or have no respect for them, I don't budge an inch as I feel strongly in not being a doormat. 

Before when I was new to my position as a manager, I would force myself to put an act of dominance/authority (almost borderline agressive bully) on at work (really difficult) as I thought I had to have this to manage and then I'd come home and it'd be hard to "switch off" the *act*.  The Dom I was with was not pleased at all with the act...LOL to say the least and that ended up being disastrous to my BDSM relationship.   So, I've had to check that act at the door at 5pm.... really, really hard as I've been doing it all day.  It is important to project an air of authority (dominant personality) at work to steer people in the direction that I need them to go as a manager.  So having a naturally submissive personality and to get people to follow me without the projection of a dominant personality I have to use other alternatives since if I act dominant at work or at home it just doesn't fly...  who wants to follow a fake and who wants to Dom a dominant-acting submissive. lol

These days, I'm submissive personality as a manager as I use my listening skills and attending to my subordinates needs as an "enabler" as a way to manage.  I pay attention to my subordinates personalities and needs and like to enable them to do their best at their jobs based on their own needs and motivations...within the context of accomplishing the company's objectives.  They see that I pay attention to them, I am after their needs, and am a nice non-bullying person that doesn't get in their way and doesn't micromanage or dominate, unless they are just not doing their jobs (then here comes my dominant *act* lol).  But I try to maintain a non-intrusive management style where I stay out of their way and let them do their job, and I serve as a resource, a guider, and a person to bounce ideas off of or let their needs be known to higher ups.  I have an open door policy and always give out tasks that my subordinates are able to do or want to do or learn based on their individual needs.  It's difficult to have a style where I "find a direction and bend people to my will".  As one with a submissive-personality and a manager, I have to be creative and have to draw on my natural strengths to manage... so I focus on everyone's different needs and strengths, and let them tap into it in accomplishing the team's objectives. 

Yes, it's still a change to focus on a goal within myself (without others guiding me) and just follow it.  And also, it's hard for me to deal with other naturally submissive personalities who are my subordinates..sometimes when they just want someone to tell them what to do.  They really just need someone to tell them what to do, which I really don't like doing...but have to force myself sometimes if it's what they need...ugh, you know where that's going.  I much prefer them ideally to come to me and ask questions and run with their tasks.  So there's still dominant stuff I have to do, but don't really feel I have a natural tendency and I have to constantly force myself to do. 

I'm now presently working on getting myself focused on different things at work vs. non-work.  At work, I get myself to focus on the company objectives and my subordinates needs.  Outside work, possibly with my significant other, I focus on his needs and my needs.  ...Lol, really tough but this focused-approach is a new approach I'm trying... and is a work in progress.  But yeah, the personality thing is hard to switch on and off, so I've tried to use other ways besides putting on the act to accomplish my objectives in and out of work.  Though sometimes you still need to put on the act which is part of the job.

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RE: Alpha Personalities. - 10/5/2007 5:44:43 AM   
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Do you all find it difficult to give switch over the mindset of being dominating in some circumstances and being a submissive in others?

I don’t give my submission easily, I know that within my personality if I since that someone is emotionally/physically/or mentally weaker than I am, I feed off of that and try to use it to my advantage.

So how do you deal with it?

Ally




Awesome topic! I deal with it by letting my natural responses flow, I don't submit when not being dominated. There is no shift in mindset needed when you just allow yourself to respond naturally to the people you interact with. I rarely if ever feel submissive towards females, I rarely feel submissive towards 95% of the men I interact with, it is that 5% or less than are more powerful than I am that can bring about submission in me. I either feel submissive and respond that way to you or I don't. What I don't do is have interpersonal relationships with men who are not dominant in relation to me. If my natural reaction isn't to submit, He and I have nothing to talk about because it won't be long before he'll be scrubbing the bathroom in a pink tutu and I'll be looking for a more powerful male to belong too. I don't see any point in fighting what is natural for me.

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RE: Alpha Personalities. - 10/5/2007 6:20:34 AM   
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Do you all find it difficult to give switch over the mindset of being dominating in some circumstances and being a submissive in others?

I don’t give my submission easily, I know that within my personality if I since that someone is emotionally/physically/or mentally weaker than I am, I feed off of that and try to use it to my advantage.

So how do you deal with it?

Ally

This to me sounds borderline abusive. Why would you feel the need to do this? It just sounds like "anyone not my equal or stronger is someone to be used however I can"

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ORIGINAL: BeingChewsie

Awesome topic! I deal with it by letting my natural responses flow, I don't submit when not being dominated. There is no shift in mindset needed when you just allow yourself to respond naturally to the people you interact with. I rarely if ever feel submissive towards females, I rarely feel submissive towards 95% of the men I interact with, it is that 5% or less than are more powerful than I am that can bring about submission in me. I either feel submissive and respond that way to you or I don't. What I don't do is have interpersonal relationships with men who are not dominant in relation to me. If my natural reaction isn't to submit, He and I have nothing to talk about because it won't be long before he'll be scrubbing the bathroom in a pink tutu and I'll be looking for a more powerful male to belong too. I don't see any point in fighting what is natural for me.
I love you, LOL! The pink tutu cracked me up, HA! Your response here was exactly what I was thinking, thanks for posting it. The only time I experienced confusion (daily) was in the past trying to fight my natural personality as a defense mechanism. For the longest time I felt that in order to not be "run over" was to pretend to be more dominant/aggresive/whatever than I really was. Terribly stressful, to say the least

I agree with Lucky, personality doesn't have much at all to do with orientation IMHO. There is (or should be) a natural flow to your alpha-ness & submissive-ness depending on what the hell is going on around you and what is required at the time.


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RE: Alpha Personalities. - 10/5/2007 7:12:59 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Sabella

quote:

 

Do you all find it difficult to give switch over the mindset of being dominating in some circumstances and being a submissive in others?

I don’t give my submission easily, I know that within my personality if I since that someone is emotionally/physically/or mentally weaker than I am, I feed off of that and try to use it to my advantage.

So how do you deal with it?

Ally

This to me sounds borderline abusive. Why would you feel the need to do this? It just sounds like "anyone not my equal or stronger is someone to be used however I can"



No, don’t use it in a physical since. Think of it more as natural order, everyone does this just not everyone recognizes it. When you first meet someone you evaluate them mentally and decide where they stand in your realm of natural order. Have you ever worked for someone and had to follow their leadership, but you know full well they just shouldn’t be leading you? I believe the op is talking about the natural way people do this. When you find that special someone to submit to, you are telling the world I found him to be the one that makes my knees weak, all the others just didn’t do that for me. Natural order of selection in who is stronger and weaker.

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RE: Alpha Personalities. - 10/5/2007 7:17:50 AM   
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oh and no matter how submissive or Dominant i choose to be in a relationship i am always passive...unless i am playing...how about we throw that set of words into the discussion...passive, agressive and passive/agressive 

so that makes me a passive beta personality that is 95% of the time on the bottom side of things...though i am now dating a....person (dammit, i'm gonna have to figure out how K wants me to refer to him/her/it for brevity...damned gender fucked -K's term, not mine- people...) who is a switch my Top side gets to play a lot more...matriarch of my leather household says its fun to watch our switch wars already....though i suspect it might could get bloody as time goes by...oh goody....lol...

its a good thing i like cages instead of boxes....cause you can stick out of cages and over spill...lol

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