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RE: Dominant women - 10/8/2007 5:12:05 PM   
SubOscar


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ORIGINAL: DarkDaddyZ

I'm LATE and I know I'll have more to add.  But I disagree, I am the son of a Dominant woman.  I also embraced BDSM through the eyes and teachings of Dominant women first before learning from Dominant men. I also see many Dominant women in history especially in Europe.

If any of these things were mentioned prior I apologize in advance.

Z-



Interesting..., females cant be dominant?

Female dominance is innate and is the right and natural way. Boys grow up with female authority from the start. They are used to it and most men want it. For families with fathers running the
household : is a hoax, it was the witty mother who really ran the show passively dominating in the background.

Women aint as muscle strong as men but they're better leaders and managers, commincators and diplomates, better social skills. Hard labor was and always is saved for the men cuz thats what they are best in.

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RE: Dominant women - 10/8/2007 5:21:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		When I say that I am not dominated or feel vibes from dominent women, I mean "JUST ME". I never speak for others or judge how they live or believe (unless it infringes on someone elses rights). I have many lady friends who are dominent with the men in their life. That doesn't bother me at all. My ex mother in law was the most dominent bitch (sorry .. we didn't get along so I find it very hard to not be judgemental) I ever knew. Up until my father in law died he was the most pussy whipped man I ever knew. She actually thought she was going to boss me around when I married her daughter. That lead to a few fights. Even as a short little kid with a big mouth, I didn't back down, even when the older kids kicked my ass. I just don't like anyone telling me what to do. Its just too much in me. I tell my bosses to give me goals to reach and get out of my way. It usually works pretty well. This is how I am. What others do ... good lord, I don't have the time or interest to get involved. I am the way I am. I let others worry about what they are. So, can a woman be dominent? Not to me!

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RE: Dominant women - 10/8/2007 6:46:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyHugs

Dear Alecto, Ladies and Gentlemen,
 
In the 1970's when women were trying to get into an all male dominated work force, the biggest club used was that a woman could never out power a man, e.g. fight-force, etc.
 
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I wore my uniform with honor and did not spread my legs to get where I got.  I did hard training like everybody else.  To say I am not being truthful or admit my weakness that I am unable to physically dominate and or physically over power a man is an insult to women who are veterans of the military, semi-military and or para-military organizations who got to their rank and their services the hard earned and honorable way.  People don't realize or easy forget that women have died in this current war--they are in the military.  They got there from not being powder puff sissy females.
 
Just some thoughts.

Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs
 
 
 



Amen sister. My ma-ma was one ballsy broad, she was one of the first female race car drivers. She wanted to drive medical transports.. but they wouldnt let her, being a woman and all... I tried it out for her after she passed. It wasnt for me. My grandmother was just as ballsy. She helped run hootch durring the prohabition with my grandfathers trucking company, and owned a brothel. Her mother was the first off the rez. < Indian Reservation > Flipped them all off and told the indian affairs jack ass who wanted to marry her to kiss her red ass.

To me it isnt whats in your pants as to the strength you have.. it is the will power and what is in your heart. My best friend Cherish who is a Fire Fighter in her day to day job... is currently serving her duty over in Iraq. She is a big tough strong assed woman. On the other side she has also been a spokesmodel, and is a blonde goddess that makes both men and women weep as she passes by. < she is the one blonde exception to my general rule > ( did I mention she is a Domme as well and swing one nasty whip? )

I have done my fair share of "mens" jobs. Medical transport, K-9 trainer, K-9 Officer, Bouncer, Body Gaurd, Personal Security. (the rich and famous think it is novel to have a female body gaurd...*rolls her eyes a bit*)

I am no where near what I used to be in those days when I held those positions.. desk jobs have made my body go to hell... as have accidents. 

Back on topic. the Op is entiltled to her opinon. As we all are. She simply doesnt want to submit to a female.. no big freaking whopped' deal. Doesnt feel like submitting to a female? Ok, fine. To be honest I am hard as hell pressed to find a male to submit to. Most I find are just terribly disapointing. As for women not being dom. at all we all have opinions on that. We have all met enough people to know that there are submissive and dom. people of every walk of life. They are personality traits... not some mystical birthmark only a few chosen ones get. Mind you not all Dom/mes are created equal. ~Be they male/female ~black, purple, blue, red or green.  With or without red hair.. *winks* People get thier nickers all up in a bunch any time they *think* some one is telling them they arent what they are. Just be content that you know who you are.. and hope others become enlightened. The time you take to realize that you may just notice they ment no offence. Again on the flip side if you brush some one aside and they are not adult enough to just step away realize it is _them_ being childish, not the whole group incapable of dealing well with social interactions. Trust me... no one is that tempting as to require a breach of manners.

Gwyn

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RE: Dominant women - 10/8/2007 8:38:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MidMichCowboy

When I say that I am not dominated or feel vibes from dominent women, I mean "JUST ME". I never speak for others or judge how they live or believe (unless it infringes on someone elses rights). I have many lady friends who are dominent with the men in their life. That doesn't bother me at all. <snip>

So, can a woman be dominent? Not to me!


Well said. :)


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RE: Dominant women - 10/8/2007 9:56:24 PM   
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If a woman is assertive or gets angry or wants something, all anyone has to say, to put her in her place, is “bitch.”  Just that one word, and you can dismiss her.  Why is no one worried about how acting assertive makes a man a “bitch,” and so unattractive!   


Bitch?  You say that like it's a bad thing?  [giggles]

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RE: Dominant women - 10/9/2007 10:19:00 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SubOscar


quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkDaddyZ

I'm LATE and I know I'll have more to add.  But I disagree, I am the son of a Dominant woman.  I also embraced BDSM through the eyes and teachings of Dominant women first before learning from Dominant men. I also see many Dominant women in history especially in Europe.

If any of these things were mentioned prior I apologize in advance.

Z-



Interesting..., females cant be dominant?

Female dominance is innate and is the right and natural way. Boys grow up with female authority from the start. They are used to it and most men want it. For families with fathers running the
household : is a hoax, it was the witty mother who really ran the show passively dominating in the background.

Women aint as muscle strong as men but they're better leaders and managers, commincators and diplomates, better social skills. Hard labor was and always is saved for the men cuz thats what they are best in.



What part of his statement did you not understand?
 
Jewel

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RE: Dominant women - 10/9/2007 12:31:00 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ShiftedJewel

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ORIGINAL: SubOscar


quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkDaddyZ

I'm LATE and I know I'll have more to add.  But I disagree, I am the son of a Dominant woman.  I also embraced BDSM through the eyes and teachings of Dominant women first before learning from Dominant men. I also see many Dominant women in history especially in Europe.

If any of these things were mentioned prior I apologize in advance.

Z-



Interesting..., females cant be dominant?

Female dominance is innate and is the right and natural way. Boys grow up with female authority from the start. They are used to it and most men want it. For families with fathers running the
household : is a hoax, it was the witty mother who really ran the show passively dominating in the background.

Women aint as muscle strong as men but they're better leaders and managers, commincators and diplomates, better social skills. Hard labor was and always is saved for the men cuz thats what they are best in.



What part of his statement did you not understand?
 
Jewel


I think that was his way of backing up Z's statements with his own perspectives.

I could be wrong though....


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RE: Dominant women - 10/9/2007 4:19:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: iammachine

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ORIGINAL: ShiftedJewel

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ORIGINAL: SubOscar


quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkDaddyZ

I'm LATE and I know I'll have more to add.  But I disagree, I am the son of a Dominant woman.  I also embraced BDSM through the eyes and teachings of Dominant women first before learning from Dominant men. I also see many Dominant women in history especially in Europe.

If any of these things were mentioned prior I apologize in advance.

Z-



Interesting..., females cant be dominant?

Female dominance is innate and is the right and natural way. Boys grow up with female authority from the start. They are used to it and most men want it. For families with fathers running the
household : is a hoax, it was the witty mother who really ran the show passively dominating in the background.

Women aint as muscle strong as men but they're better leaders and managers, commincators and diplomates, better social skills. Hard labor was and always is saved for the men cuz thats what they are best in.



What part of his statement did you not understand?
 
Jewel


I think that was his way of backing up Z's statements with his own perspectives.

I could be wrong though....



The first line is what me think otherwise....
 
Jewel

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RE: Dominant women - 10/9/2007 8:20:21 PM   
iammachine


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ORIGINAL: ShiftedJewel

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ORIGINAL: iammachine

quote:

ORIGINAL: ShiftedJewel

quote:

ORIGINAL: SubOscar


quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkDaddyZ

I'm LATE and I know I'll have more to add.  But I disagree, I am the son of a Dominant woman.  I also embraced BDSM through the eyes and teachings of Dominant women first before learning from Dominant men. I also see many Dominant women in history especially in Europe.

If any of these things were mentioned prior I apologize in advance.

Z-



Interesting..., females cant be dominant?

Female dominance is innate and is the right and natural way. Boys grow up with female authority from the start. They are used to it and most men want it. For families with fathers running the
household : is a hoax, it was the witty mother who really ran the show passively dominating in the background.

Women aint as muscle strong as men but they're better leaders and managers, commincators and diplomates, better social skills. Hard labor was and always is saved for the men cuz thats what they are best in.



What part of his statement did you not understand?
 
Jewel


I think that was his way of backing up Z's statements with his own perspectives.

I could be wrong though....



The first line is what me think otherwise....
 
Jewel


You're entitled to think whatever you want. The only person that knows for certain, is that poster.


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RE: Dominant women - 10/10/2007 4:31:46 AM   
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One can exhibit their dominance simply through the way they are...their presence. If other's choose to recognize their dominance, fine...if not that is ok too.


I think this reflects my views the best. I have met many a Dom/domme that had others falling at their feet, who i just did not get that vibe from.
 
The truth is that i have met many of both sexes i considered dominant, just not possessing the qualities i look for in one who i would accept as being dominant to me. Then again i am a picky bitch, lol.
 
As long as they accepted that i was fine. I can respect who they are as long as they respect how i feel about them. I am not going to automatically bow down to their domliness though. For some that is the issue.
 
"But i am a Dom/Domme, how can you not recognize that?"
 
Which can lead to the Dom/Domme attempting to prove just how domly they are. Nothing and i mean nothing will turn me off faster. I do not care if you think you are the King of Siam or the Queen of Sheba if i have not accepted you as dominant to me it is not going to happen.
 
Perhaps it is this type of behavior Mistoferin was stating that really got to her as well. Maybe since she does not view females as possible dominants for her, she is the recipient of kind of tactic from Dommes more often than from Doms.
 
 
quote:

  Take another woman, or a man, and put them in a same room as that woman, and chemistry may result in both of them feeling the dominant woman exuding a dominant "aura."


Like i stated above, this is often very true. Just because i do not see it, accept it, does not mean another does not.

< Message edited by Twicehappy2x -- 10/10/2007 4:35:32 AM >

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RE: Dominant women - 10/10/2007 6:12:05 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Twicehappy2x
Perhaps it is this type of behavior Mistoferin was stating that really got to her as well. Maybe since she does not view females as possible dominants for her, she is the recipient of kind of tactic from Dommes more often than from Doms.
 
 
quote:

  Take another woman, or a man, and put them in a same room as that woman, and chemistry may result in both of them feeling the dominant woman exuding a dominant "aura."


Like i stated above, this is often very true. Just because i do not see it, accept it, does not mean another does not.


I'd have probably been a lot better off if I had just asked you to write this post for me....lol. You said it lots better than I did....but yeah....that pretty much sums it up.

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RE: Dominant women - 10/10/2007 6:57:25 AM   
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ORIGINAL: mistoferin

I'd have probably been a lot better off if I had just asked you to write this post for me....lol. You said it lots better than I did....but yeah....that pretty much sums it up.


What, and miss all this great entertainment? Lmao......

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Dominant women - 11/7/2007 5:12:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have served a number of dominant women since I was in my teens, but I cannot generalize from that experience as to their personality type.

Yes, one of them was what is generally called a bitch, but the other were not. However, all of them, when in a relationship with a submissive--me or another sub--completley controlled the relationship, psychologically and sexually.

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RE: Dominant women - 11/7/2007 8:06:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: CuriousLord

I have trouble seeing a female as dominant too.

Whenever I want to try to understand a Domme, I try to put myself into her shoes.  "What if I were female?  What if I had a vagina and such, assuming that these didn't cause me to develope differently?  What if I were the same as I am now, besides this?"  And, in brief moments, I almost feel like I can empathize with their plight.. feeling like that, despite the gender difference.

Still, experience clouds it too much.  Most of the women I've known in life are submissive.  The ones who aren't are bitches.  It's infrequently that I've encountered a genuenely dominant woman.


Before I reply to this comment, could you please clarify something for me?  What is the plight of the female dominant?

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RE: Dominant women - 11/7/2007 10:08:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		It cracks me up when a "dominant" man tries to get a dominant woman to submit, and the man is only masking his own insecurities.  I am a dominant woman who is far from a bitch; I am merely the only child of two older parents who grew up to be independent and assertive.  I am not a control freak, and I do not abuse my subs/slaves.

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RE: Dominant women - 11/7/2007 10:11:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		Perhaps this lord is curious because he is very misinformed, and he needs to be educated.   I have met very few people who are genuinely dominant, and that goes for men and women.

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RE: Dominant women - 11/8/2007 12:24:26 AM   
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ORIGINAL: mistoferin

.... But I have never FELT dominance from a woman....I just don't get that vibe from them....any of them. I see women as peers.

My question is this though, I have noticed that when I am honest about the way I feel about this, many, if not the majority, will view my opinion as a challenge and set out to "prove" their dominance to me. Some will argue the point with me....and some will go so far as to try to dominate me. Why ladies? I don't get it.

I'm not trying to slam you, it's just that male dominant/female submissive relationships are what work for me in my world. I'm not trying to tell you what to do in yours or what should work for you in yours. Some of us out here are just wired that way....some of us are wired in ways that fit better in your world. But trying to push the point only serves to alienate.  


 I am not going to slam you for your opinions and what you have felt in life. What works for you M/f is what works for you .. not everyone is wired the same and thus there is a call for F/m relationships as well.Would this mean you cannot be friends with Dommes well heavens as you stated so many are your friends and of course you would want them as peers just as they would want you. I have friends that are subs but they are not MY subs thus they are friends and peers. It is similar to what a gay friend of mine shared.... just because she was gay did not by any means elude to any reality that she wanted to have sex with every female on this earth .. it just ment that she chooses her partners to be same sex. She may jokingly call me a breeder or other terms because I am bi but she is a friend and a peer and accepts my choices as I accept hers.
 If you run into those that wish to force feed you their dominence heavens I am so sorry as that shouldn't be called for .. FemDommes do not trip your triggers and that is ....OK..... just as for those that do need a Female *above* them so to say .. that too is .....OK..... I applaud you for being able to say * hey your kink is not MY kink* and hopefully everyone can accept it and move on
 hope you have a great night
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RE: Dominant women - 11/8/2007 12:33:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		Dear PrettyNYkitten, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
I do agree with your post, which states; ..."I have met very vew people who are genuinely dominant, and that goes for men and women."
 
I think, based on my personal experiences; that there is a matter of what constitutes 'dominant' in individuals minds.  It is a matter of perception, it is a matter of connection and it is a matter of preferences, e.g. standards, prejudices, bias, traits, etc.
 
In addition, there is a difference between being 'dominant' and being 'domineering.'  There is also a difference between a control freak who micro manages and one who has presence that compels someone to do anything short of backflips into thimbles for a person who they see as a 'dominant' and or an 'authority' figure in the relationship. 
 
That said, for my personal preferences--I have a lot of knowledge, skills and most of all, I am secure in being 'me.'  Since there are many styles in leadership and use of authority; it is my belief to be that I am dominant due to how well served I am at any circumstance be it vanilla or BDSM.  Being respectful and living to a code of behavior and attitude that promotes and or invites respectful interactions is a strength to which may out power any nasty chew down and or rude behavior and or arrogant attitudes. 
 
In summary, although I am a Dominant; I am not every individual's Dominant.  I can be a dominant person without being nasty or shove it in everybody's face.  But, I can do this; because my life has trained me in so many ways and in several careers; have taken me as an unmolded lump of steel and have hammered and folded me many times as to shape me into my form.  There are two uses for swords.  To attack or defend.  Although a symbol of rank and or authority, especially in a military sense; the sword means security more than it is used to intimidate and or attack.  The attitude and behavior of a Dominant should/could/may be much like a military sword.  It is present but rarely used in an intimidating or attack nature. 
 
Just some thoughts.
 
Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs

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RE: Dominant women - 11/8/2007 12:40:45 AM   
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There is huge difference between a dominant woman and a bitch. Just as there is a huge difference between a dominant man and a knuckle dragging thug. If fact, being a bitch would immediately eliminate the possibility of being dominant, except to a sub/slave who was looking for nothing but a bitch.
(only read the first few, sorry I don't usually do this.)

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RE: Dominant women - 11/8/2007 12:46:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Eru

If fact, being a bitch would immediately eliminate the possibility of being dominant, except to a sub/slave who was looking for nothing but a bitch.



How do you work that out?

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