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RE: i am not a true slave because i cannot kneel - 10/6/2007 3:43:57 PM   
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RE: i am not a true slave because i cannot kneel - 10/6/2007 4:05:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: winterlight

i have had Dom/me tell me this. Since i cannot kneel (vein problems), sit on the floor back problems and neck problems. i am not a true sub/slave.
That is why i put that statement up there because i wanted to know other people's views.

tyvm!
 Anyone saying something so stupid is full of it. Seriously.

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RE: i am not a true slave because i cannot kneel - 10/6/2007 4:12:15 PM   
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RE: i am not a true slave because i cannot kneel - 10/6/2007 4:21:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: winterlight

i have had Dom/me tell me this. Since i cannot kneel (vein problems), sit on the floor back problems and neck problems. i am not a true sub/slave.
That is why i put that statement up there because i wanted to know other people's views.

tyvm!


What is your view?

agirl

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RE: i am not a true slave because i cannot kneel - 10/6/2007 4:26:29 PM   
Darkmike


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Status: offline 		I cant believe no one has asked the question, is this physical or phsycological.
If its physical, then yes you can still be a slave, if its phsycological, then your simply a submissive.

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RE: i am not a true slave because i cannot kneel - 10/6/2007 4:35:20 PM   
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RE: i am not a true slave because i cannot kneel - 10/6/2007 4:47:39 PM   
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How can you not get it, are you being sarcastic?
Are you truely telling me that if a woman is physicly capable of kneeling but chooses not to that she is a slave.

If she is not physicly capable I would agree with her simply doing the best she can, but if she is capable of doing it but fails to, that is not totally giving yourself.
All of this serving from the heart crap I have been hearing is bull, if the heart really desires, the body can follow.
Your either a submissive, AKA you like being dominated and told what to do, but still have your stubborn tantrums, moods etc, or your a slave, in which case you give yourself totally to your master and strive to do whatever he asks.

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RE: i am not a true slave because i cannot kneel - 10/6/2007 4:48:13 PM   
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RE: i am not a true slave because i cannot kneel - 10/6/2007 4:48:40 PM   
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slavery and submission comes in the soul and the dynamic is between the two, a give and take--because one does not kneel. does not mean they cannot serve in other ways----smiles, out there somewhere is a Dom who gets that---but they are few little one--keep the faith--MH

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RE: i am not a true slave because i cannot kneel - 10/6/2007 4:50:13 PM   
camille65


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Darkmike


How can you not get it, are you being sarcastic?
Are you truely telling me that if a woman is physicly capable of kneeling but chooses not to that she is a slave.

If she is not physicly capable I would agree with her simply doing the best she can, but if she is capable of doing it but fails to, that is not totally giving yourself.
All of this serving from the heart crap I have been hearing is bull, if the heart really desires, the body can follow.
Your either a submissive, AKA you like being dominated and told what to do, but still have your stubborn tantrums, moods etc, or your a slave, in which case you give yourself totally to your master and strive to do whatever he asks.

 Yes.Even if a person cannot physically kneel, they can be a slave.

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RE: i am not a true slave because i cannot kneel - 10/6/2007 5:04:25 PM   
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In my opinion, serving from the heart is much more important than serving from the knees.


Nicely put.

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RE: i am not a true slave because i cannot kneel - 10/6/2007 5:05:46 PM   
Darkmike


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Status: offline 		Yes I agree that if its physical its the desire that counts, however a smart Dom would simply get his sub some knee pads.

This splitting hairs between heart and body is really stupid.

If you serve from the heart, the body follows.

Thought first, action second.


< Message edited by Darkmike -- 10/6/2007 5:07:48 PM >

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RE: i am not a true slave because i cannot kneel - 10/6/2007 5:07:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ExSteelAgain

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ORIGINAL: wwwkevinww

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ORIGINAL: ExSteelAgain

Thinking physical problems keep someone from being a slave are asinine.  Speaking as a Dom, making her submissive in whatever body she is trapped in is all mental anyway. Not being able to kneel or some such thing reminds me of making out some kind of insurance form where you will be paid if you have enough problems.  

Just do what your Dom wants if you can.  If you can’t, tell him and he will find something else for you to do that will make you feel soooo  slavelike, I bet.


So asinine I think the OP was being sarcastic.

I think your second paragraph has some wishful thinking in it.......LET THE DREAM GO ON....


What are you the guest commentator on everyone's post? It's like you keep reminding everyone that the OP was being sarcastic and upset that we don't get it. Trust me, we got it.  


Fwiw, I didn't read the OP as sarcastic.

< Message edited by dcnovice -- 10/6/2007 5:08:02 PM >

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RE: i am not a true slave because i cannot kneel - 10/6/2007 5:11:47 PM   
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if the heart really desires, the body can follow


I'd be real wary of this generalization. I've been reading a biography of FDR, and his heart definitely desired to walk again (without braces). But polio had ravaged his legs too badly for the body to "follow."

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RE: i am not a true slave because i cannot kneel - 10/6/2007 5:12:10 PM   
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RE: i am not a true slave because i cannot kneel - 10/6/2007 5:14:47 PM   
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RE: i am not a true slave because i cannot kneel - 10/6/2007 5:15:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Darkmike


How can you not get it, are you being sarcastic?

I dont think she was.
Are you truely telling me that if a woman is physicly capable of kneeling but chooses not to that she is a slave.
No, she just didnt get what you were saying and she wasnt the only one.

If she is not physicly capable I would agree with her simply doing the best she can, but if she is capable of doing it but fails to, that is not totally giving yourself.

That would be like saying love doesnt exist or friendship or any other kind of deep emotions = cause they arent *real* and *physical*, you cant prove them? BS. You prove them by devotion, by real services, , by honesty, showing your true self to the other, in an everyday basis or in any ways that works for the sub/slaves and the Dom. You cannot fix everything to the physical, it doesnt work that way.

All of this serving from the heart crap I have been hearing is bull, if the heart really desires, the body can follow.
And if you dont *need* to kneel to feel like a submissive? You're being judgmental here, the world doesnt fit into a nice little box.
Your either a submissive, AKA you like being dominated and told what to do, but still have your stubborn tantrums, moods etc, or your a slave, in which case you give yourself totally to your master and strive to do whatever he asks.

That's another matter. You're mixing everything up.


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RE: i am not a true slave because i cannot kneel - 10/6/2007 5:15:59 PM   
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RE: i am not a true slave because i cannot kneel - 10/6/2007 5:26:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross
If a person is physically capable of killing their child, but chooses not to, are they a slave?

That sounds like a pure retarded republican argument and makes no sense.

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murmur
And if you dont *need* to kneel to feel like a submissive? You're being judgmental here, the world doesnt fit into a nice little box.

Er, you might feel like a million dollars but that dosnt make you a millionaire, for the record, read my post, the word you used was submissive, the word being discussed is slave.
I explained the difference, you didnt seem to get it, along with a lot of people here.
I am the last person to defend putting the world into a box, but IMHO the phrase slave signifies a fairly specific range, lets say at least 50% of the time unquestioning devotion.
A submissive on the other hand is a much wider area, from the 5% to the 50% lets say.

Take who you think you are out of the equation, and any percieved slight you feel I may have made against someone and you will understand what I am saying.


< Message edited by Darkmike -- 10/6/2007 5:28:09 PM >

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RE: i am not a true slave because i cannot kneel - 10/6/2007 5:29:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

If a person is physically capable of killing their child, but chooses not to, are they a slave?


LA, I usually love the clarity and candor of your posts, but this one has me baffled.

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