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RE: how important are appearances.....really? - 7/27/2005 8:47:14 PM   
BlkTallFullfig


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ORIGINAL: MstrHellsFury
I know this is going to go over like a lead ball but here it is anyway...growing up I had to deal more with the color issue..Fury

Not sure why you think you had to deal more with the color issue.

I grew up in a town that was 90% black, a school of about 1000 students, and was one of five white girls in my class. I learned about color issues very quickly and was highly sensitive to it.

He was talking about his experience in relation to looks, not comparing his growing up issues with yours (I think). M

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RE: how important are appearances.....really? - 7/27/2005 9:38:10 PM   
fastlane


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Status: offline 		I was wrong about all of this.
I've come to the conclusion that appearances do not mean shiat.
It's what is inside that illuminates the soul.
So, having said that, I'm masturbating, cause I'm not sleeping with an ugly anything.
Unless her soul is real purdy!!

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RE: how important are appearances.....really? - 7/27/2005 10:02:42 PM   
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Speakin of looks....everything is lookin good to me tonight...even that big ol Iron Bear.

which presents another topic...anyone done it bear style?

Hell yes... Thats why I have the padded table and a variety of shackles to get my "victim" held in a suitable possition WEG BOL

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RE: how important are appearances.....really? - 7/27/2005 11:57:32 PM   
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ORIGINAL: fastlane
I was wrong about all of this.
I've come to the conclusion that appearances do not mean shiat.
It's what is inside that illuminates the soul.
So, having said that, I'm masturbating

See, if ya had been looking a prettier soul you probably would have someone to be mastering to and making do your handy work for you . M

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RE: how important are appearances.....really? - 7/28/2005 12:08:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		APEARANCES ARE REALLY IMPORTANT LIKE TAKE BASEBALL

SAY MARINO RAVERA HAS 25 SAVES IN 27 APPEARANCES THATS REALLY GOOD NOW SAY SOME OTHER GUY HAS 38 SAVS BUT IN 116 CARREER APPEARENCES THATS NOT NEARLY AS GOOD EVEN THOGUH HE HAS MORE SAVES

SO THE LESON IS U HAFTA LOOK AT THE STATS CARFULLY

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RE: how important are appearances.....really? - 7/28/2005 6:09:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		Great point...but I still hate the Yankees!

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RE: how important are appearances.....really? - 7/28/2005 12:57:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MstrHellsFury

I know this is going to go over like a lead ball but here it is anyway...growing up I had to deal more with the color issue..therefore I had to take into conderation that others were looking at that fact first with me...in the adjustment processes in my head I had to find a coping supercell...so to be what I am today I put aside looks and concentrated on the person before me...as hard as it may seem to most to believe...I don't really have a gadge for looks...so everyone looks ok to me...I guess I'm the odd man out on the planet because I don't have a looks issue...

Fury


No you certainly are not. A lot of men don't have the honesty to admit it. I prefer larger women myself. Why? Because I just do. I do have concerns about people that are unhealthily obese though, but solely because of health concerns. It is possible to carry so much weight that health problems ensue, but that varies from person to person. Or perhaps if someone had a very negative image of themselves they may truly need to lose weight so that THEY can feel better about themselves. Everyone deserves to be comfortable in their own skin. As a Dominant, I would encourage (and faithfully assist) a submissive that really wanted to lose weight because they were ill, or just unhappy with themselves about their size. If someone that I was with told me that they wanted to be smaller just to please ME, I would be very hurt, and almost offended.

When I met my special lady many years ago, she was a size 8. Now, many years later, 2 kids later she is a size 14-16. Guess what..she still lights up any room that she walks into. She's vibrant, she's healthy, she's graceful, and I can't keep my hands off of her! I know a lot of guys that with a gain in weight, comes bitterness, unhappiness, disappointment. It doesn't have to be that way, I say. There are much better measures of a person than where they can buy their clothes :)


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RE: how important are appearances.....really? - 7/28/2005 5:00:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		Appearance is pretty damned important to me. I prefer that all body parts are there and in their proper places, that I can breathe when he is on top of me, and that he doesn't wear more makeup than I do.

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RE: how important are appearances.....really? - 7/28/2005 6:28:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		What I find amusing is the doms who insist his girl be drop dead gorgious in shape, ect ect ect. And he's not. Nobody is in the position to demand anything of any one else if they're not at least half of all the expect others to be. looks aren't in the top 10 of things I look for, but if he demands you to be in good shape and he's not, and be clean and DD free and he's not I laugh. not to their face of course, but I am like oh please, next.

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RE: how important are appearances.....really? - 7/28/2005 7:00:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		LOL, I have to agree with the last two post. The man should not wear more makeup than the gal.....not that there's anything wrong with it...LOL
and, if you are asking someone to be of a certain body type, height, weight, complexion, mindset...etc
You damn well better fit the bill as well.

great answers...all of you...thanks!



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RE: how important are appearances.....really? - 7/28/2005 7:00:16 PM   
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Nobody is in the position to demand anything of any one else if they're not at least half of all the expect others to be.

Actually that's not true. Anyone has the right to any criteria of preferences they want... its a personal choice, they have a right to that. Now how likely they are to get it is another matter.

But even then, people sometimes are attracted to what might be considered odd combinations to some of us... and especially in this lifestyle. Young women attracted to men old enough to be their grandfathers. I've know very beautiful women who actually were attracted to overweight, balding, chain smoking men (don't ask me why, I don't get it), or men who are absolute hunks who go for an older, overweight, domineering woman. To each their own say I. What you, or I, might want or laugh at is never a good judge of what someone else might want. But we are all entitled to want whatever we want, and we shouldn't have to justify that.

I guess if there is a point in that somewhere then it would be this. Appearances do matter, this is all too human; but beauty is also most definitely in the eye of the beholder.

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RE: how important are appearances.....really? - 7/28/2005 7:03:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		Appearances to me are grooming, mode and style of dress, and how they present themselves. Then I can move into their looks. Then what is between their ears.

A girl may not be my dream girl, but if she is smart, has common sense, presents herself as a woman and not a tart, and is very well groomed, then I can be attracted to her.

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RE: how important are appearances.....really? - 7/28/2005 8:03:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		ya. I know Pad. All I am saying is tho I think it's hypocritical to demand excellency if all you give back is slovelyness. I do know opisits can attract but for me, If he's expecting dam fine looks on wheels an he's a pig I won't be interested. I think it's hypocritcal to expect perfection when he's all slovenly.

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RE: how important are appearances.....really? - 7/28/2005 11:09:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		Oh I agree, it can be hypocritical and it certainly seems odd to me. But then there's a lot of hypocricy in the world, and people will do as they will do. Speaking for myself, I have high standards for what I look for in a slave, but I reserve the highest standards for myself. I dress as well as I am able, I keep myself and my home clean, I take care of my things, and I have invested a lot of time and energy into being the best person I know how to be. I'm not perfect, I'm too skinny and anyone who has seen my photo knows I'm a beanpole. I don't eat as well or as often as I should and sometimes I forget to go to sleep... usually when I'm engrossed in some project or book. Maybe if I had a good slave to look after me in those areas... ah well... all things in time. I don't smoke, I confine my drinking to something with a meal and never get drunk, I'm drug and disease free (unless you count the occasional cold) and in general I'm pretty healthy and still enjoy a 4 or 5 mile hike as a fun, spur of the moment thing to do. So yes, I expect a lot, but I offer a lot too, I think that's a fair exchange. What others choose to do is their business, even if it is hypocritical, I've got enough trying to keep me sorted out without worrying what the next guy or gal is doing. Geez I'm getting mellow.

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RE: how important are appearances.....really? - 7/29/2005 1:18:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		I agree with Padriag very much on this point. And it's not hypocrisy to want things different in another than what one expects of oneself. I am looking for things in a woman that I do not possess in myself because I am not a woman. Doesn't that just make sense?

I think that part of what underlies this thread is about sour grapes, or someone's hurt feelings, or something like that...

We cannot any of us be everyone else's first choice. That's just the way it is. Whether it makes sense, seems hypocritical, somehow unethical, or even just simply shallow doesn't matter. I repeat: That's just the way it is.

Personally, I demand the right to be shallow. Fuck anyone that thinks they can come between me and my heart's desires. Seriously, fuck anyone that even dares.


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RE: how important are appearances.....really? - 7/29/2005 2:36:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		A dominant dominates someone who chooses to submit to them. If he's so out of shape be it in either direction how is he going to effectively dominate her.

If he's so huge he can't function, he can't dom her, if he's so sickly and frail how is he gona hev the pychical presence.


I rather like just a little pading to make cuddling not so much like laying on bones, but my mate is only 130 lol.

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RE: how important are appearances.....really? - 7/29/2005 4:33:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		Everyone has their "ideal". Mine is at least 5'8", long kinky redhair, strong thighs, big butt, a vagina that you only find on redheads (love that extra lining) and a PhD in anything but psychobabble.

What I find amusing is Head Bitch Barbie's "deal breakers". Any male who has a baseball cap on backwards (unless he is also wearing a catchers mask); any male who has his cap on while eating, any male who wears white socks with slacks or black socks with shorts...lol (guess that takes care of NJ and Canada). And any male who does not immediately offer her a drink at the bar...lol.

They don't call her Head Bitch for nothing.

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RE: how important are appearances.....really? - 7/30/2005 7:51:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		Men in skirts scare me! I'l take the backwards ball caps anyday...LOL

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RE: how important are appearances.....really? - 7/30/2005 11:25:14 PM   
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Men in skirts scare me! I'l take the backwards ball caps anyday...LOL


Does this mean you'd be terrified if a couple of Scottish gentlemen approached you wearing kilts? Or a full regiment of Highlanders will pipes playing were to come close? Heh, The question is what is under the Kilt? I know what is beneath mine when I wear it.

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RE: how important are appearances.....really? - 8/3/2005 11:15:49 PM   
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