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RE: RE:Interracial D/s relationships:How do we really f... - 10/11/2007 11:50:57 AM   
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I prefer white and hispanic guys.  I've never dated outside of those two races, but would have been open to the possiblity if I hadn't already met my fiance.

As far as other people's relationships go?  I don't care.


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RE: RE:Interracial D/s relationships:How do we really f... - 10/11/2007 11:57:46 AM   
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Blaakmaan, as much as I don't agree with some of your posts, (as I am sure you havn't about some of mine and others.)
The statement you made:  You haven't a clue about what I've experienced or what I'm "determined" to do.
Is a good one, and can easily be applied to everyone .  Because we all are making our opinions and preferences known as a result of personal knowledge and experience.  sambaman'slilgirl, as a result having grown up being more exposed with more white people then black, as a result feels more at home with white.  Now would you say that it was fair that most other black people treat her that way? I wouldn't. 

My own knowledge and perceptions,(that yes lead to my "preferences".or whatever word you want to call it.)  When I was a little girl, I was afraid of black men.  ( I do not know why, I just remember my dad talking about it.) and when I was in 1st grade, my best friend, a black girl named Dalicia, along with another friend, turned on me, made me feel worthless. luckly we moved before 2nd grade.  My parents raised me to be moderately openminded,(meaning not so openminded that my brains would fall out.lol.) To not judge others because of their Race,Religion,Culture,Handicap,etc.  And to never ever ever use the "N" word, because it could cause me to get my ass kicked.  Not to mention that it is a word that is morally repugnant.  On the otherside though, they expressed that they didn't think I should date outside of my race, (no not because they are supremicists.) but because society had such a problem with it.  they would say life introduces more then enough problems without adding to it.  (I am disabled in some ways, they felt with that, and being female, and pagan, yeah thats a long enough list of issues.  so far I have more or less agreed with that. easy since I haven't met anyone outside of my race that would make me decide differently.) And while maybe all of us here havn't experienced racism, I can bet at least half if not most of us here has experienced discrimination of some sort.  those girls that were supposedly my friends definately did.  other kids I went to school later on did because of being in special ed.  different bosses, who couldn't/wouldn't understand my disabililties.  And how many times has one of us told another person about our lifestyle and that person getting weirded out, and not wanting to talk again?  Maybe you think that such instances mean nothing in comparison to a people who have suffered years of discrimination, but they are real to the people that have experience it, and while I can't speak for anyone else, It has definately made me sympathetic to the issue.



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RE: RE:Interracial D/s relationships:How do we really f... - 10/11/2007 12:01:47 PM   
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that's exactly what I am saying...

New tune, please...

The world is not big enough for another Al Sharpton, let alone the site (referring to an style of opportunism to make the issue about race, whether it is or is not). You have stated your view. Others have responded. You have responded to their responses (or unsurprisingly, avoided them). It is clear this has been derailed from topical to personal, especially when the OP has concluded. So YOU think it is about race. A surprising majority has conveyed personal experience that contradicts your assertions. You disagree with their perception. They (unsurprisingly) disagree with yours. Stalemate. NEW TUNE, PLEASE. And yet the "Dat's racist!" merry-go-round takes another spin. New tune, please...



Is THAT the best you got???

If it's a "merry-go-round," feel free to get off.

Posts end when they end, not when you declare "stalemate."

Nobody ever "wins" these strings, anyway.

You take the same position on any topic that involves race:  Race?  Get over it, move on!  Racism?  That's the past!  Next topic!

It's not even interesting, if it ever was.

I'm not even bothering anymore.

Been there, done that, got the t-shirt.

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RE: RE:Interracial D/s relationships:How do we really f... - 10/11/2007 12:10:02 PM   
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Compatibility and love are two major factors in who I would wish to submit to. Skin color, ethnicity aren't important. She may be Black, White, Hispanic, etc ... what's important is the trust and love one would foster in a D/s relationship.

I'm not saying that I didn't have a preference in the past. I find Black or Hispanic Dom's to be very sexy and stimulating. Most of these women are curvacious with a take charge attitude. That combination with skin color would have driven me over the edge with lust ...

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RE: RE:Interracial D/s relationships:How do we really f... - 10/11/2007 12:33:17 PM   
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wow - for someone who cheers a black man for dating a white woman and then jeers a black woman for dating a white man, you certainly have a double standard in your "perfect" world.  you ass-ume that i'm a racist right off the bat because of my reasons for being attracted to white men.  and to go even one more step further, i suppose you would consider Daddy (who is white) a racist because He prefers the company of black women.

i based my statements as what i see everyday in the black neighborhood i live in. majority of the black women i've encountered are loud, obnoxious, smoke, do drugs etc ...likewise most men are part of the "shoulda, coulda, woulda" men - standing on the street corner hustling for that next 40.  if someone was offended, then they know how to address them to me - however it seems you enjoy speaking for the entire race. good luck because your double standards and words don't apply to me.


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RE: RE:Interracial D/s relationships:How do we really f... - 10/11/2007 1:28:39 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: xoxi

oh my god there are SO many things I want to reply to on this thread.

1. Blaackmaan - I agree with your view of the n-word.  It's something that just strikes a chord in so many people, and even though quite a few people are saying stuff like "whats up my nigga" there are still so many people I know who can't even stand being called "nigga" by another black person.

But honestly as far as race play goes - that's someone's kink.  Think of the word 'slut' - I absolutely HATE that word.  Hearing it makes me violent and I have told every single guy I've been with that unless he wants to send me to a very bad place where I completely repress my sexuality so not to be thought of as a dirty skanky slut he should NOT use that word with me.

However that does not mean if I hear someone *else* use the word slut with *their* girl I will step in - cuz I wont.  That's *their* thing and as long as her man doesn't call *me* a slut I have no business interfering.

And FWIW if you say I can't possibly understand hwo the n word makes people feel because I'm not black and it's not even close to the same - yeah well screw you you're not a woman so you have no CLUE how slut makes ME feel.  Women have been oppressed for MILLENNIA before Europe even DISCOVERED Africa existed. 

2. White women who date black men catch your interest in a good way but black women who date white men are race traitors? Not even going to argue with this one, this just gets a good old fashioned "wtf"

3. If white men lacked ambition and aggression I doubt they would have colonized 9/10 of the world 150 years ago. Just saying.

4. I was raised in a white culture and I lived 2 years in all black areas.  I date white men out of cultural preference and physical preference.  I also like blue eyed blondes.  Awshit its the Aryan nation - not.  I don't date men with blue eyes cuz they are 'superior' I date them cuz they are hot.  One of my closest and oldest friends has a white mother and a black father.  So...what?  Is he black? Is he white? Can he date a white person without being a 'race traitor' - oh wait i forgot its only black WOMEN who date white men who are race traitors apparantly black men such as yourself who date white women are NOT race traitors, my bad.  But still....should he only date mixed women?  And for that matter should he only date half black half white women?  What about 3/4 white and 1/4 black?  And would a black woman who dated him be a race traitor?  You know cuz he got that nasty white blood?

5. If someone were a devout Christian or Muslim and limited their dating pool to others who shared their faith would they be guilty of the same discrimination in your eyes?



Hmmmmmmmmmm...

Well, you've misunderstood my argument, at least in part.

When I said that white women who date outside their race get my attention, it was in response to a post that said:

       It may be that what the white person possesses that the black person seeks is
      independence.  One thing I value in a person (whether dominant, submissive, or
       vanilla) is a willingness to think for themselves.  Being willing to be first yourself
        instead of trying to fit into whatever racial or cultural group you were born into is
       something I value, and so for me, a black woman who's willing to date outside her
       race gets my attention.  I suspect that the complement to that is also true for   
       independently thinking black women.  It may not be that they prefer white men, it
        could be that they prefer men who are independent thinkers.

My response was essentially:  and white women who date outside their race get my attention. So what?

I was not arguing that "White women who date black men catch [my] interest in a good way but black women who date white men are race traitors," as you contend.

In fact, to my recollection, I haven't called anybody a race traitor... yet. [smile]

So, yeah... your bad...

Nobody thinks white men lack ambition.  However, one might just as easily attribute the colonization of 9/10ths of the world (I personally think that's a little high--where was, for example, China in that 9/10ths estimate?) by white men to the possession of superior technology, or even to a violent savagery, as "ambition".

White men with blue eyes can be hot (to somebody).  That's fine.  But if only white men with blue eyes are hot, then your "cultural" and physical "preferences" are prejudices, not just preferences.

"Hot" only exists in the mind.  If only white men with blue eyes (or whomever) are "hot" to you, you are endowing them, in your mind, with whatever attributes make them "hot" to you, and you're implicitly denying those same attributes to every man who isn't white with blue eyes.

That's prejudice and racist to me.  Again, your mileage may differ.

I'm black (surprise!).  Some brunette white women with dark eyes are hot (like Elizabeth Taylor when she was young).

But if I only thought that brunette white women with dark eyes were hot, there's some way that I am looking at other women (black women, Asian women, hispanic women, etc.) that makes them "not hot."

To me, that's racist.

And, if I, as a black man, only thought that non-black women were hot--what the hell can I say about that?  That's prejudice against my own race, which to me is pretty twisted.

Some of all races of women are hot.  Physical and mental attractiveness is not the province of any one race.

Now...

With regards to your "their kink" argument about race play, you could look at it that way.  That ends the discussion.  Are there limits to the "your kink, therefore ok" argument, or is every kink equally ok?

Let me say this about race play and the "your kink, therefore ok" argument:

An argument can be made that since we are all interconnected people on this one planet, "your kink" affects more than just you.

When a black woman tells a white man to call her a "nigger bitch," it can be argued that she's desensitizing that white man to the meaning and impact of the word "nigger."  It might, for example, give him the idea that "nigger" is not such an offensive term to black people.  That just might affect somebody else besides that one black woman who wanted a white man to call her "nigger" because it made her hot.

The argument could also be made that a woman who encourages a man to participate in a fantasy rape is desensitizing that man to horror of an actual rape.  That might affect his behavior, in that regard, towards the next woman.  If that is true, even in part, the fantasy rape affects more than those two people.

I don't know if I buy either of those arguments, but they certainly can be made.

We're not islands unto ourselves in life, however much we might want to think we are.  It's a fiction to think that what happens between two people, whether consensual or not, only affects those two people and no others.

Yes, women have been oppressed for millenia.  I'm not engaging in Comparative Oppression.  But the only people whose oppression here I consider greater than that African Americans have experienced here are American Indians.

I'll let Christians and Muslims (and Jews) deal with dating inside their religious group versus interfaith relationships, if they care to.


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RE: RE:Interracial D/s relationships:How do we really f... - 10/11/2007 1:41:34 PM   
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Oh, stop!

I didn't cheer black men for dating anybody, and I didn't jeer black women for dating anybody either.

I'm just not that simplistic.  Sorry...

If you are a black man and you step over black women to get to white women (or asian women, or whatever), you got issues!  If you are a black woman and you do the same, you got issues, too!

The black community you live in doesn't represent all black people or all black communities.  The black women in your community don't represent all black women, and the men there (poor dumb things...) don't represent all black men.  Obviously!!!

My black community has phat houses with Mercedes and Lexuses in their driveways.  My black community doesn't represent all black communities, either.

Drawing the conclusions you have from you own one community is--what???--stereotyping.

Whatever you think black men can't accomplish, verbally and intellectually, you are wrong.  However, you are free to be wrong, just as you are free to worship white men, if you so choose.

As long as I don't know you, it's a "whatever" to me.

I don't speak for anybody but me, but I am black, proud of that fact, and love black women and black people as a whole.  My posts reflect those facts.

THE END

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RE: RE:Interracial D/s relationships:How do we really f... - 10/11/2007 1:52:07 PM   
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One of the things that (some of us) black people do, is try to break (media) stereotypes.  There's good in that and bad in that.  In accepting the good in that you have to accept the bad in that.
We know that there are some men that are black who date outside their race who don't like or respect black women who date outside their race and vice versa.  It's a double standard but it happens. I believe more frequently than most would admit.

As I've said, I date, dominate, fuck people of all races and ethnicities.  My preference is a big assed femme woman, or a soft butch.  I have my preferences and all of you have yours.

Racial debates are great and they are passionate and they bring up all types of feelings, some deep rooted.  Being a US Air Force brat that grew up overseas, I saw anti American things from time to time but I didn't have any negative experiences based on my race except twice, and in both instances, it was with someone who had spent time in the United States. 

But in todays society, it's not only us as black people who experience racial discrimination, reverse discrimination has never been higher and the conversatives use that for their mandate (though I don't want to get  political, I don't blame them, it's smart).

This forum has been an interesting ride!

In the words of Sheriff Bart (as played by the late Cleavon Little) in the film Blazing Saddles
"Where' The White Women At?"

I'm JUST KIDDING (sorta).

I hope the week is winding down great for all of you.

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RE: RE:Interracial D/s relationships:How do we really f... - 10/11/2007 2:35:33 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyLynx

Blaakmaan, as much as I don't agree with some of your posts, (as I am sure you havn't about some of mine and others.)
The statement you made:  You haven't a clue about what I've experienced or what I'm "determined" to do.
Is a good one, and can easily be applied to everyone .  Because we all are making our opinions and preferences known as a result of personal knowledge and experience.  sambaman'slilgirl, as a result having grown up being more exposed with more white people then black, as a result feels more at home with white.  Now would you say that it was fair that most other black people treat her that way? I wouldn't. 

My own knowledge and perceptions,(that yes lead to my "preferences".or whatever word you want to call it.)  When I was a little girl, I was afraid of black men.  ( I do not know why, I just remember my dad talking about it.) and when I was in 1st grade, my best friend, a black girl named Dalicia, along with another friend, turned on me, made me feel worthless. luckly we moved before 2nd grade.  My parents raised me to be moderately openminded,(meaning not so openminded that my brains would fall out.lol.) To not judge others because of their Race,Religion,Culture,Handicap,etc.  And to never ever ever use the "N" word, because it could cause me to get my ass kicked.  Not to mention that it is a word that is morally repugnant.  On the otherside though, they expressed that they didn't think I should date outside of my race, (no not because they are supremicists.) but because society had such a problem with it.  they would say life introduces more then enough problems without adding to it.  (I am disabled in some ways, they felt with that, and being female, and pagan, yeah thats a long enough list of issues.  so far I have more or less agreed with that. easy since I haven't met anyone outside of my race that would make me decide differently.) And while maybe all of us here havn't experienced racism, I can bet at least half if not most of us here has experienced discrimination of some sort.  those girls that were supposedly my friends definately did.  other kids I went to school later on did because of being in special ed.  different bosses, who couldn't/wouldn't understand my disabililties.  And how many times has one of us told another person about our lifestyle and that person getting weirded out, and not wanting to talk again?  Maybe you think that such instances mean nothing in comparison to a people who have suffered years of discrimination, but they are real to the people that have experience it, and while I can't speak for anyone else, It has definately made me sympathetic to the issue.




When I was an adolescent, and first getting into girls, black girls gave me a very hard time.  I was pretty nerdy, tall, dark-skinned, and skinny--apparently not the best combination of attributes during adolescence.

I was teased, talked about, laughed at, and subjected to all the myriad of miniature tortures that adolescents are subjected to when they are "out" and not "in".

It seemed to me (and I actually think it was that way) that black girls were particularly hard on me.  I reacted to that.  I grew to dislike black girls because of the way I felt they were treating me.  I didn't think they liked me, so I decided, unconsciously, not to like them.

So, my first girlfriend, late in high school, was white.  My second girlfriend, in my freshman year of college, was also white.  I felt more socially at ease, and therefore more compatible with, white women than black women.

It wasn't that white women (the females weren't girls by then--definitely women) were something that black women weren't.  The way I was seeing white women, and not seeing black women, and the characteristics I projected onto them, led me to imbue white women, in my mind, with characteristics that I denied to black women.

I was stereotyping black women out of my adolescent experience.

Fortunately (in my view, anyway), at some point I transferred to a historically black college, where I was exposed to the breath and beauty of black women, from A to Z.  They were smart and not-so-smart, beautiful and plain, pleasant and unpleasant, just like white women are.

Those stereotypes I was acting out of fell away--how could they survive?--and I came to see black women as they are, and to love them as I do.

The only reason I reveal all of this is to say that, yes, I know how painful it is to feel rejected by your own, and I know what it is to feel more comfortable around whites than around blacks.  And I also know what it is to stereotype your own people.

We are all, as adults, the products of our childhood and adolescent experiences, but we are also more than that.  Most of us, I would guess, didn't have BDSM experiences (as opposed to BDSMD/s fantasies) in those early years, but here we are.  We are more than the products of our childhood and adolescent experiences.

Growing up around whites, feeling more comfortable around them, and whatever else, does not justify saying or believing, as an adult black person, that with white men you can  "converse intelligently from the arts to music to politics without stooping below someone else's level or resorting to the slangspeak of the day," but not with black men, and it doesn't justify stereotyping black women as "ghetto chicks" who are "loud and obnoxious."  Or anything else so ridiculous.

Racism is racism, no matter what experience it stems from.

And, in my humble opinion, racism against your own race is just a tragedy.

How can I harbor racist prejudices against blacks, being black myself, without applying those same racist prejudices to my black self?



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RE: RE:Interracial D/s relationships:How do we really f... - 10/11/2007 2:41:42 PM   
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If you are a black man and you step over black women to get to white women (or asian women, or whatever), you got issues!  If you are a black woman and you do the same, you got issues, too!


Blaakmaan - If this is statement is deemed to be correct, then you are denying that people have a personal preference and that all fetishes or likes are purely driven on being racist/sexist/colourist etc.
Would the statement be the same if a woman steps over a man to get a woman?  Does that mean they have 'issues' or do they have a sexual preference/orientation?  What about the man whom steps over a woman who has brown hair like himself, but instead, only is attracted to those with red hair?  Does that make the person have 'issues' - or a preference.  What, pray, is the difference.
 
I look forward to your response.
 
Peace
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RE: RE:Interracial D/s relationships:How do we really f... - 10/11/2007 3:29:27 PM   
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there is a reason why I have this quote as my tagline: Our community maybe openminded as a whole, but it is still made up of individuals who bring in their own opinions,baggage and agendas!

At any rate, I am weary of this discussion. I highly doubt it will ever really get resolved because people are going to see things filtered by the above.  Much love to everyone and **hugs** Gods Bless, I am done responding to this thread.

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RE: RE:Interracial D/s relationships:How do we really f... - 10/11/2007 3:35:14 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

quote:

If you are a black man and you step over black women to get to white women (or asian women, or whatever), you got issues!  If you are a black woman and you do the same, you got issues, too!


Blaakmaan - If this is statement is deemed to be correct, then you are denying that people have a personal preference and that all fetishes or likes are purely driven on being racist/sexist/colourist etc.
Would the statement be the same if a woman steps over a man to get a woman?  Does that mean they have 'issues' or do they have a sexual preference/orientation?  What about the man whom steps over a woman who has brown hair like himself, but instead, only is attracted to those with red hair?  Does that make the person have 'issues' - or a preference.  What, pray, is the difference.
 
I look forward to your response.
 
Peace
the.dark.



My understanding is that sexual orientation is genetically predisposed.

My understanding of racial "preferences" is that they are not genetically predisposed.

Therein lies a difference, if not the difference.

I'm not denying that people have preferences, nor am I saying that all fetishes are driven by racism, sexism or colorism.

I have a fetish for women in hi-heels and stockings.  That's not driven by racism, sexism or colorism.

What I am saying is that a lot of what people want to call "preferences" are rooted in racism.

Peace to you.

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RE: RE:Interracial D/s relationships:How do we really f... - 10/11/2007 4:04:02 PM   
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I just love Blazzing Saddles!

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RE: RE:Interracial D/s relationships:How do we really f... - 10/11/2007 4:19:39 PM   
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Many regards for responding.  I do understand you more clearly now and I thank you for that.
 
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RE: RE:Interracial D/s relationships:How do we really f... - 10/11/2007 4:27:26 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

quote:

ORIGINAL: Blaakmaan

Black men do not, as a rule, lack "integrity/ambition/strength/character" any more than any other men.

Much as it pains me to admit it, white men do not, as a rule, lack "ambition, strength, character, aggression, [or] what-have-you" any more than any other men.

To tar so broad a group with so broad a brush is quintessential racism.

Racism is racism.  You can be racist in your world, but you're still racist...

And, more to my original point (waaay back when), those "broad brush" stereotypes cut more in favor of white men than anybody.  Therefore, they benefit more from those stereotypes than anybody.

As is amply reflected right here on CM.


I find it ironic that a black man comes forth complaining about racism and racist attitudes and yet comes forth with the two statements I have put in bold above...

Like it or not, racism exists.  So do many other problems.  You can whine and bitch about it but sooner or later, you have to examine what your whining and bitching get you.  I can just about guarantee you that coming in to a group to which you paid no fees to join, which did not discriminate against you during the entry process and which could care less how you identify...be it submissive, dominant, bottom, top, switch...and then with one of your first threads begin griping about how things in here are skewed towards the white man's favor will certainly not earn you much in the way of an accepting attitude.


This is an absolute truth CD and so very sad to see, particularly on a site such a CM.

Some folks will simply never grasp the big picture and will continue to cling to these biases and prejudices until they draw their very last breath.

Truly is so very distressing and saddens me deeply.

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RE: RE:Interracial D/s relationships:How do we really f... - 10/11/2007 6:28:01 PM   
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This forum has been an interesting ride!

In the words of Sheriff Bart (as played by the late Cleavon Little) in the film Blazing Saddles
"Where' The White Women At?"

I'm JUST KIDDING (sorta).

I hope the week is winding down great for all of you.

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It has been an interesting ride, but after reading some these replies, opinions, viewpoints, etc., I am like this: Stop The World, I Want To Get Off! LMAO Have a good evening!

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RE: RE:Interracial D/s relationships:How do we really f... - 10/11/2007 6:48:46 PM   
Blaakmaan


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ORIGINAL: MrMister

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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

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ORIGINAL: Blaakmaan

Black men do not, as a rule, lack "integrity/ambition/strength/character" any more than any other men.

Much as it pains me to admit it, white men do not, as a rule, lack "ambition, strength, character, aggression, [or] what-have-you" any more than any other men.

To tar so broad a group with so broad a brush is quintessential racism.

Racism is racism.  You can be racist in your world, but you're still racist...

And, more to my original point (waaay back when), those "broad brush" stereotypes cut more in favor of white men than anybody.  Therefore, they benefit more from those stereotypes than anybody.

As is amply reflected right here on CM.


I find it ironic that a black man comes forth complaining about racism and racist attitudes and yet comes forth with the two statements I have put in bold above...

Like it or not, racism exists.  So do many other problems.  You can whine and bitch about it but sooner or later, you have to examine what your whining and bitching get you.  I can just about guarantee you that coming in to a group to which you paid no fees to join, which did not discriminate against you during the entry process and which could care less how you identify...be it submissive, dominant, bottom, top, switch...and then with one of your first threads begin griping about how things in here are skewed towards the white man's favor will certainly not earn you much in the way of an accepting attitude.


This is an absolute truth CD and so very sad to see, particularly on a site such a CM.

Some folks will simply never grasp the big picture and will continue to cling to these biases and prejudices until they draw their very last breath.

Truly is so very distressing and saddens me deeply.



Perhaps one day you Enlightened Ones can lead my "biased and prejudiced" self out of the darkness and into the light.

Oh, I forgot!

I'm not a submissive.  I don't follow!

Nevermind...

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RE: RE:Interracial D/s relationships:How do we really f... - 10/11/2007 9:05:00 PM   
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Perhaps one day you Enlightened Ones can lead my "biased and prejudiced" self out of the darkness and into the light.

Oh, I forgot!

I'm not a submissive. I don't follow!


You don't follow.

You don't lead.

You don't listen.

Besides vomiting the same tired screeds again and again and again ad nauseum, what do you do?


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RE: RE:Interracial D/s relationships:How do we really f... - 10/11/2007 9:11:39 PM   
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I find that erotica is full of stories of black Doms and white slaves. The opposite is fairly rare. I dont think its hard to see why this is.

As for me, i will probably always find myself in interracial relationships simply because my race is rare in the country I live in. My racial preferences in Doms have nothing to do with my kink.

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RE: RE:Interracial D/s relationships:How do we really f... - 10/11/2007 9:30:03 PM   
goddessAVA


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ORIGINAL: LATEXBABY64

um you forget about the naitive american indian which today still struggles for survivial.


ummmmmmm no I have not-In my educated opinion, the ramifications being a white person dating/married to a black person are VASTLY different in the USA to this day vs. dating any other ethnicity/racial group and that is what this thread was about-RELATIONSHIPS.

I am not going to get into the who's history is more tragic debate-I have stated my opinion and stand by it-you are free to disagree but you will not dissuade me.

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