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RE: Al Wins! Al Wins! Al Wins! - 10/12/2007 11:53:03 AM   
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How about sticking to the concept of "Gee, a Nobel Peace Prize for a seriously flawed documentary?"    I'm sure there were actually people or groups nominated that deserved the prize for PEACE more....




....fair enough...name some.

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RE: Al Wins! Al Wins! Al Wins! - 10/12/2007 11:57:03 AM   
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...not having read Gore's autobiography i was not aware of his having cut the number of ships in the US navy. Thanks for the heads up. Mind you, i'm not sure how that makes him directly responsible for the deaths of people aboard the USS Cole......wouldn't the terrorists have a piece of that?
However, on the point you make regarding the use of the film in classrooms......all history is, to some extent, partisan. All criticism of literature is, of necessity, biased by the mind of the author. Basically, it seems to me, that as long as Gore's film is accompanied by explanatory notes it has value in a classroom setting.

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RE: Al Wins! Al Wins! Al Wins! - 10/12/2007 12:55:44 PM   
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You forgot to mention Begin as well.


Usually you claim to be scrupulous. Your integrity is slipping.


There were several others I didn’t mention (subrob 1967 was kind enough to expand the list) as well. My point, however, remains valid. The so called Noble "Peace" Prize is a joke.

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RE: Al Wins! Al Wins! Al Wins! - 10/12/2007 1:00:58 PM   
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We would not be here on "collarme" if it weren't for Al Gore. He did invent the internet afterall.

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RE: Al Wins! Al Wins! Al Wins! - 10/12/2007 1:14:29 PM   
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I am glad he won.  He didn't shoot himself in the foot if there are some inaccuracies.  He did his thing, man!

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RE: Al Wins! Al Wins! Al Wins! - 10/12/2007 1:35:02 PM   
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How about sticking to the concept of "Gee, a Nobel Peace Prize for a seriously flawed documentary?"    I'm sure there were actually people or groups nominated that deserved the prize for PEACE more....




....fair enough...name some.


No problem...we will have to wait 50 years until the list of 199 other nominees is released:  http://nobelprize.org/nomination/peace/

Though you can find out who is rumored to have been nominated: 

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2005-02-24-nobel-list_x.htm

Is Bono among record number of Nobel Peace Prize nominees?OSLO, Norway (AP) — A record 199 individuals and groups were nominated for this year's Nobel Peace Prize and the secret list of nominees was believed to range from former Secretary of State Colin Powell to U2 singer Bono.
The final count of nominees, released Thursday, included 163 individuals and 36 organizations, said Geir Lundestad, secretary of the Norwegian awards committee. The winner will be announced in mid-October. "This is an increase that shows the continued strong interest in the prize," said Lundestad. He said there was a broad geographical distribution of names. Last year, Kenyan environmental activist Wangari Maathai won the prize. She was among 194 nominees, the previous record. The five-member awards committee keeps the nomination list secret for 50 years and gives no hints about who is on it. However, those nominating candidates often announce their choice. Powell was nominated for his efforts to end Sudan's 21-year civil war. Other known nominations included: Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez; exiled Bangledeshi writer Taslima Nasrin; former Illinois governor and anti-death penalty campaigner George Ryan; the group Tiananmen Mothers, which represents families of those killed in the 1989 massacre in Beijing; SOS-Children's Village, a charity that provides homes to abandoned and abused children worldwide; and long-jailed Israeli nuclear technician Mordechai Vanunu. The list also was believed to include the International Atomic Energy Agency, International Red Cross, Save the Children, Pope John Paul II and former Czech President Vaclav Havel. Although at least one U.S. congressman with nomination rights has said President Bush deserved the prize for the Sudan peace effort, it was not clear whether the American leader had been nominated. Rep. Frank Wolf, R-Va., had spoken publicly about possibly nominating Bush but it didn't appear that the nomination was ever formally made, his press secretary Dan Scandling said Thursday. The awards committee accepts nominations postmarked by Feb. 1, and can add its own names at its first meeting of the year, which was Tuesday. Going into that meeting, there were 166 nominations. "This year, the committee added a lot of names," Lundestad. "That does not mean that a committee member already has a favorite candidate. They just want to be sure." The deadline is so strict that, in 1978, the committee wanted to include former President Jimmy Carter for the Nobel for his work on the Camp David peace agreement but couldn't because he was not nominated in time. Carter won the 2002 peace prize for his many years of peace efforts. Lundestad also has pointed out that it is easy to be nominated for the prize, but hard to win. Being nominated also does not mean that the committee endorses that candidate in any way. The committee, which is appointed by but does not answer to parliament, has already pared down the names to an initial short-list, which is also kept secret. Lundestad said nominations streamed in from all over the world but that most came from Norway, the United States, Sweden and Germany. The award, including $1.6 million, is always presented on Dec. 10, the anniversary of the death of its founder, Swedish industrialist Alfred Nobel. The peace prize is awarded in Oslo, and the other Nobel Prizes are presented in the Swedish capital, Stockholm.




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RE: Al Wins! Al Wins! Al Wins! - 10/12/2007 2:47:41 PM   
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..a good long list.....but who would you nominate?

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RE: Al Wins! Al Wins! Al Wins! - 10/12/2007 2:49:09 PM   
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We would not be .............................. He did invent the internet afterall.


LMAO!

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RE: Al Wins! Al Wins! Al Wins! - 10/12/2007 2:59:12 PM   
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Gratz to Al and his chins.
I really need to watch that movie of his someday, I am interested in knowing what about it would excite communists/socialists so much as to nominate him for this esteemed award.


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RE: Al Wins! Al Wins! Al Wins! - 10/12/2007 4:21:25 PM   
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Who would I nominate?   Not relevant.   The  Nobel Committee had a choice from 199 people/groups and picked Al Gore and the UN subcommittee.   About an issue (global warming) that is still debated and unresolved.  In a documentary that exaggerated risks and outcomes. And a documentary relating to science, not peace. 

But hey, their choice and their money...I just personally feel that Alfred Nobel would have choosen differently for a Peace Prize, even from the "leaked list" of possible nominees.  Of course, I'm sure he'd have felt differently about several of the previous winners.

Perhaps they should change it to the "Peace and Politics" prize......




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RE: Al Wins! Al Wins! Al Wins! - 10/12/2007 4:25:36 PM   
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Settle down now, settle down, let's just keep the facts straight here shall we.

1. A few years back, Al starts talking about keeping things in locked boxes.

2. My Dominants relish the idea and chia* pet finds himself under lock and key.

3. The box is hot, I sweat profusely, and in turn complain to Al about the heat.

4. Al confuses my six hundred letters as a consensus, and global warming is born.

5. Al becomes a Hollywood Hottie, nabs the Oscar, be it fiction or documentary.

6. Al wins the Nobel Peace Prize, I get a tee shirt with Tipper licking an iceburg.

Having done his part to help save mankind as we know it, (forgive me everyone)
chia* pet readies his now nine inch nails in an attempt to retrieve his due.

Tap tap tap.......I'm ready to come out now......tap tap tap

I said I'm ready to come out now....Sir....Ma'am....Al......

It appears the truth of chia*'s inconvenience, shall remain forever, in a locked box.

chia* (the pet)

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RE: Al Wins! Al Wins! Al Wins! - 10/12/2007 4:28:56 PM   
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I lost all respect for the Nobel prize as soon as they awarded it to Arafat. How do you give a peace award to someone who supported terrorist attacks?

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RE: Al Wins! Al Wins! Al Wins! - 10/12/2007 4:35:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: chiaThePet

Settle down now, settle down, let's just keep the facts straight here shall we.

1. A few years back, Al starts talking about keeping things in locked boxes.

2. My Dominants relish the idea and chia* pet finds himself under lock and key.

3. The box is hot, I sweat profusely, and in turn complain to Al about the heat.

4. Al confuses my six hundred letters as a consensus, and global warming is born.

5. Al becomes a Hollywood Hottie, nabs the Oscar, be it fiction or documentary.

6. Al wins the Nobel Peace Prize, I get a tee shirt with Tipper licking an iceburg.

Having done his part to help save mankind as we know it, (forgive me everyone)
chia* pet readies his now nine inch nails in an attempt to retrieve his due.

Tap tap tap.......I'm ready to come out now......tap tap tap

I said I'm ready to come out now....Sir....Ma'am....Al......

It appears the truth of chia*'s inconvenience, shall remain forever, in a locked box.

chia* (the pet)


chia, if you see all of our social security "savings" in there, you'll let us know, right?

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RE: Al Wins! Al Wins! Al Wins! - 10/12/2007 4:43:27 PM   
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Settle down now, settle down, let's just keep the facts straight here shall we.

......snip.....

It appears the truth of chia*'s inconvenience, shall remain forever, in a locked box.

chia* (the pet)


chia, if you see all of our social security "savings" in there, you'll let us know, right?


While you are there, see if you can secure the Internet too?  Al left it too way unsecured....

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RE: Al Wins! Al Wins! Al Wins! - 10/12/2007 4:49:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: chiaThePet

Settle down now, settle down, let's just keep the facts straight here shall we.

1. A few years back, Al starts talking about keeping things in locked boxes.

2. My Dominants relish the idea and chia* pet finds himself under lock and key.

3. The box is hot, I sweat profusely, and in turn complain to Al about the heat.

4. Al confuses my six hundred letters as a consensus, and global warming is born.

5. Al becomes a Hollywood Hottie, nabs the Oscar, be it fiction or documentary.

6. Al wins the Nobel Peace Prize, I get a tee shirt with Tipper licking an iceburg.

Having done his part to help save mankind as we know it, (forgive me everyone)
chia* pet readies his now nine inch nails in an attempt to retrieve his due.

Tap tap tap.......I'm ready to come out now......tap tap tap

I said I'm ready to come out now....Sir....Ma'am....Al......

It appears the truth of chia*'s inconvenience, shall remain forever, in a locked box.

chia* (the pet)


chia, if you see all of our social security "savings" in there, you'll let us know, right?


Oh I'm sorry, I've been forced to order out alot because of my predicament,
and well, with the triple toppings and tipping the delivery guy and all, the
inconvenient truth is, there's more carbon monoxide in here than savings.

chia* (the pet)

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RE: Al Wins! Al Wins! Al Wins! - 10/12/2007 5:04:24 PM   
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why wasnt George the winner?


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RE: Al Wins! Al Wins! Al Wins! - 10/12/2007 5:07:33 PM   
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It appears the truth of chia*'s inconvenience, shall remain forever, in a locked box.

chia* (the pet)


chia, if you see all of our social security "savings" in there, you'll let us know, right?


Oh I'm sorry, I've been forced to order out alot because of my predicament,
and well, with the triple toppings and tipping the delivery guy and all, the
inconvenient truth is, there's more carbon monoxide in here than savings.

chia* (the pet)


*sighs*

Somehow, I knew we wuz had.

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RE: Al Wins! Al Wins! Al Wins! - 10/12/2007 5:08:46 PM   
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why wasnt George the winner?


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No chads to hang in a Nobel vote?

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RE: Al Wins! Al Wins! Al Wins! - 10/12/2007 5:16:57 PM   
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why wasnt George the winner?


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Have you been living in a box?

chia* pet graciously hands pahunkboy a sucrets.

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RE: Al Wins! Al Wins! Al Wins! - 10/12/2007 5:37:01 PM   
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Shortly after Gore did not dignify a question about a possible presidential run with an answer, former President Jimmy Carter told a crowd in Gastonia, North Carolina he's hoping Gore will still run. "I don't take a choice between, among the Democrats," Carter said when asked who he will support for president. "Although if Gore decided to run for President, I would support him." His audience clearly agreed, because cheers and applause followed this statement.
Carter made a similar endorsement of Gore this morning on MSNBC’s Morning Joe with Joe Scarborough.

The former president also predicted a Democrat will win the presidency and thinks they should focus on: ending torture; controlling nuclear weapons; promoting peace in the Middle East "with equality of treatment between Israelis and their neighbors;" giving equal tax breaks to both poor and rich people; separating religion from politics; and promoting diplomacy and not pre-emptive war.


http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/10/12/409177.aspx

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