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subfever -> RE: pro domme websites (10/16/2007 1:17:08 PM)

We all know there's a time and place for everything, different strokes for different folks, your mileage may vary, etc., etc. As for me, it would seem to make a lot more sense just paying a "hooker-with-a whip."

The way I see it, if I'm going to spend time and money pursuing a fantasy session, why not get everything I want while I'm at it?

I mean really, how many malesubs out there have ultimate submissive fantasies that are 100% sexless? Be honest.   



moki1984 -> RE: pro domme websites (10/16/2007 1:18:14 PM)

Oh wow! sad to hear that..didnt know.



moki1984 -> RE: pro domme websites (10/16/2007 1:20:47 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: subfever

We all know there's a time and place for everything, different strokes for different folks, your mileage may vary, etc., etc. As for me, it would seem to make a lot more sense just paying a "hooker-with-a whip."

The way I see it, if I'm going to spend time and money pursuing a fantasy session, why not get everything I want while I'm at it?

I mean really, how many malesubs out there have ultimate submissive fantasies that are 100% sexless? Be honest.   


wow...that is a terrible lil quote you put in their. contrary to popular belief bdsm is not all about sex first off, so although some do find sexual pleasure or gratification in sessions, for others it keeps them in line..for others its an odd form of therapy like seeing a shrink..for others its a way to push their limits and boundaries and see how deep within themself they can go. and Pro Dommes do not offer sexual services..hence hookers/Pro Dommes are two different people. It is a bit disrespectful in My opinion to categorize it like that



LadyPact -> RE: pro domme websites (10/16/2007 1:21:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: moki1984

Oh wow! sad to hear that..didnt know.


Oh, it's ok, Hon.  I'm just fine. 
 
I'll quit hijacking your thread about that and tell you about it the next time I see you.



undergroundsea -> RE: pro domme websites (10/16/2007 1:27:49 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: subfever

We all know there's a time and place for everything, different strokes for different folks, your mileage may vary, etc., etc. As for me, it would seem to make a lot more sense just paying a "hooker-with-a whip."

The way I see it, if I'm going to spend time and money pursuing a fantasy session, why not get everything I want while I'm at it?

I mean really, how many malesubs out there have ultimate submissive fantasies that are 100% sexless? Be honest.   


I have many sexual fantasies and I do indeed have fantasies that are sexless. And this point extends to reality also--I have served lesbians and for me sexual or intimate contact does not always occur when I play.

As for the point of getting what one wants when one pays, often what many subs wish to experience is a feeling of submission and let a professional dominant orchestrate how this submission is going to occur within specified general parameters.

Cheers,

Sea



subfever -> RE: pro domme websites (10/16/2007 1:28:18 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: moki1984

quote:

ORIGINAL: subfever

We all know there's a time and place for everything, different strokes for different folks, your mileage may vary, etc., etc. As for me, it would seem to make a lot more sense just paying a "hooker-with-a whip."

The way I see it, if I'm going to spend time and money pursuing a fantasy session, why not get everything I want while I'm at it?

I mean really, how many malesubs out there have ultimate submissive fantasies that are 100% sexless? Be honest.   


wow...that is a terrible lil quote you put in their. contrary to popular belief bdsm is not all about sex first off, so although some do find sexual pleasure or gratification in sessions, for others it keeps them in line..for others its an odd form of therapy like seeing a shrink..for others its a way to push their limits and boundaries and see how deep within themself they can go. and Pro Dommes do not offer sexual services..hence hookers/Pro Dommes are two different people. It is a bit disrespectful in My opinion to categorize it like that



If you read again carefully what I wrote, you will realize that I never even remotely suggested that ProDommes and hookers are one and the same.

And I know damn well that people see ProDommes for different reasons. Did you somehow miss my "different strokes for different folks?" Or are you intentionally taking my comments out of context, for the express purpose of rabble-rousing?



subfever -> RE: pro domme websites (10/16/2007 1:30:48 PM)

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ORIGINAL: undergroundsea

As for the point of getting what one wants when one pays, often what many subs wish to experience is a feeling of submission and let a professional dominant orchestrate how this submission is going to occur within specified general parameters.

Cheers,

Sea


Of this, I have no doubt.



LadyLynx -> RE: pro domme websites (10/16/2007 1:32:08 PM)

If I were to ever see a Dominatrix, it would be more cathartic then sexual............could use a really good sound flogging!!



subfever -> RE: pro domme websites (10/16/2007 1:41:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyLynx

If I were to ever see a Dominatrix, it would be more cathartic then sexual............could use a really good sound flogging!!


I'm sure there are plenty of Pros out there who would be willing to assist you... [;)]



BoiJen -> RE: pro domme websites (10/16/2007 1:53:49 PM)

If I were to ever see a Pro....never mind lol



LadyPact -> RE: pro domme websites (10/16/2007 2:19:34 PM)

Had to pop back on to get another bit of the sense of humor.



DiannaVesta -> RE: pro domme websites (10/16/2007 2:20:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BoiJen

If I were to ever see a Pro....never mind lol


Oh come on now. You're teasing everyone now.



YesMistressIrish -> RE: pro domme websites (10/16/2007 2:25:07 PM)

I've been lurking on this thread and want to add my thoughts and feeling on this subject.

DiannaVesta and LadyPact are 2 women I noticed right away when I had my 'coming out party' on cm. I also happened to email them pronto expressing my respect. Lady Pact: Remember when you got the purple floggers?  Diana: remember when I told you I wanted to pack a bag and hang out with you for a few weeks in the summer?

I like and respect you both.

Now that I have gone through the first rites of fire here on cm and had many experiences with subs both users and genuine submissives the fire of Domination burns brighter in me than ever before. The more I do...the more I crave. The more I learn, the more I want to learn. Because of my vanilla life up till now I have had to be Myself quietly, if you know what I mean.

I have thought of going pro then backed off because the energy and fire that burns in me feels so pure and I am a compassionate yet very nasty biatch. I do not want anything to change that for me. I want to become stronger, not harder, capice? It has been on ongoing tug-of-war in my head. I do know this: I never want to feel used again, not even for 1 little second, for as long as I live!!

I have decided to go pro, to make them pay for the huge amounts of energy I exert for every scene. The sub is slave, however it is what Dianna said above that rings so true for me:

"They might as well get use to doing things for me right up front because I will damn sure make them work their ass off. Let’s get it straight right up front. In return I offer an unsurpassed journey of a lifetime… one that few women can emulate due to years of experiences both professionally and personally. No my energy and passion is not for sale but for everything I am I expect total devotion and adoration. That comes in many forms including, but not limited to, dollars and cents. "

That's just beautiful!

My sub friends are on one side of that line. Because I know they are already there in sub-space for me. They give to me in every way they can without my ever having to ask. Rare birds indeed. True worship of a hot Goddess: in action. For the other's who aren't there yet, need to be trained, molded, broken, and have their needs met, get their kink on and need it right now...these are the ones that will have to pay for the privilege of being at my feet.


Boijen has been so spot-on in so many of her posts on this subject I will quote her in a separate window.

Irish



Jasmyn -> RE: pro domme websites (10/16/2007 2:28:18 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: subfever

We all know there's a time and place for everything, different strokes for different folks, your mileage may vary, etc., etc. As for me, it would seem to make a lot more sense just paying a "hooker-with-a whip."

The way I see it, if I'm going to spend time and money pursuing a fantasy session, why not get everything I want while I'm at it?


subfever this thread offers some reasons why a client would seek a person experienced with their kink and the nuiances of domination, than someone who is not... I won't rehash it here, read it if your inclined
 
http://www.collarchat.com/m_318101/mpage_1/tm.htm
 
quote:

I mean really, how many malesubs out there have ultimate submissive fantasies that are 100% sexless? Be honest.   


Quite a few ... a lot of clients will feel ripped off if the so called dominant they are seeing resorts to sex or sexual type play when it is domination not sex they are wanting. ... they can get denyed sex or teased anywhere ... domination is a whole other ball game.



YesMistressIrish -> RE: pro domme websites (10/16/2007 2:33:54 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyLynx

If I were to ever see a Dominatrix, it would be more cathartic then sexual............could use a really good sound flogging!!

LadyLynx, Come on over cause I am in the mood! lol.
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Clearing something up for anyone reading this thread so there is no confusion:
 
I think a distinction needs to be made here on this thread before it gets out of hand. It is a primal and sexual urge that drives us Dommes and subs alike in many ways. Pros do not have sex with their clients!
 
Dianna Vesta said: 'Sex Industry.'
I say: It is the sexual passion that creates the craving to submit or dominate. It is also other cravings, deep in the soul.



YesMistressIrish -> RE: pro domme websites (10/16/2007 2:40:27 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BoiJen

Thank you Ms Vesta,

You put several things to light. To piggy back if you don't mind...

Who says you have to bend or break your limits? Who says you have to take every "customer" up front? For every low-life no-show lazy fuck there's a guy out there, or girl, who's willing to go the extra mile. Whether it be coming to aide you physically or financially. As a Pro domme, you are supposed to be the one in control of the mighty Dollar. Why on earth would you allow some manipulating little shit to turn that on you.

I have sat quietly listening to initial interviews on the phone. And the minute anyone has ever shown the inclination to say "Well, I'm the one paying the money here...." I get the sheer joy of hearing "Well if you feel that way then you can go and disrespect some bitch who doesn't have the ovaries to put you in your place. How's that for you?" Just cuz they're paying doesn't mean they're the last person on earth who will pay. Nor does it mean they are less of a person for paying.

Financial control is part of the thrill and joy for many women...and for many men it's a thrill to be able to "provide" in such a manner.

Personally, given all aspets of my relationship aside, if I won the lottery there are several Pro's who be receiving a gift just cuz. I have an appreciation for these women and the work that they do...why on earth wouldn't I show it readily and willingly? Before you go off and say "well that's you" I'm not unique in my thinking. Just as you aren't either LadyPact.

Later Ladies.


I love you from afar BoiJen!
Keep posting those pearls of wisdom will you please?
If I ever thought I needed someone in my corner I'd pick you Boi!
Your posts have been spot-on and I for one, really appreciate you.
 
Miss Irish



Jasmyn -> RE: pro domme websites (10/16/2007 2:49:13 PM)

BoiJen is absolutely spot on ...
 
My usual reply when I get asked "do I get relief with that" ... it's like "yes, yes you do" ... "you'll be greately relieved when I let you go and you still have a penis"



LadyLynx -> RE: pro domme websites (10/16/2007 4:58:10 PM)

lol. unfortunately coming to California is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay out of my budget for now.  I having enough of a struggle saving for a car at the moment.  A friend told me he is willing to give me a flogging,( though after some begging that I mistakingly promised him.  ***groans***) so that will save me $$ for the moment.



BoiJen -> RE: pro domme websites (10/16/2007 5:36:02 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DiannaVesta

quote:

ORIGINAL: BoiJen

If I were to ever see a Pro....never mind lol


Oh come on now. You're teasing everyone now.



I see a Pro every morning...with coffee in one hand and lotion in the other..something about foot and back rubs to create a gentler awakening to the world:)

In all seriousness if I were to see a Pro it'd be because the Pro and I had plenty in common in the ways of like and dislike. I'd have a wad of cash in my pocket and I'd be prepared to earn the session on top of it. And there it is...lol





BoiJen -> RE: pro domme websites (10/16/2007 5:37:25 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Jasmyn

BoiJen is absolutely spot on ...
 
My usual reply when I get asked "do I get relief with that" ... it's like "yes, yes you do" ... "you'll be greately relieved when I let you go and you still have a penis"


You should get an 8 ball and have them ask "Am I going to leave with my _____ intact?" and then shake the 8 ball!

All credit for this idea goes to MsK because of a certain garage sale this last weekend.



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