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justnewsub -> punishments.... (10/17/2007 10:30:00 AM)

o.k. so as my name says, i am still pretty new to the BDSM lifestyle.... so out of pure curiosity and probably a bit of my masochist side coming out, i pushed my Dom on some of the rules that were set... finally to the point where i broke a rule.... now i am to be punished.... at first i thought it would be fun... like an extra spanking... yay!!... but he explained to me this is going to be a real punishment... it isn't for fun... i broke a rule and will have to receive punishment... he asked me what i think my punishment should be.... but he already has one in mind....

what is the worst punishment you have received, if you would like to share?  I think honestly for me the absolut worst would be for him to say i am not allowed to see or contact him for a few days.... that would be absolutly the worst.  He i think is going to go easy on me because he knew i was pushing him to see what would happen.... but it will be a punishment either way.... i have to wait all day to receive it too, so it will just build up.....




Shawn1066 -> RE: punishments.... (10/17/2007 10:34:52 AM)

I have not actually been punished yet...and I don't think it is something I will test just out of curiosity...at all.

Now, if I were to be punished, I could not handle being ignored to an extreme.




Cntrolmeplease -> RE: punishments.... (10/17/2007 10:49:46 AM)

I have never received a punishment either.  But if it comes to you not being able to spend time with your Dom for x number of days, you know never to play games like that again. 
If you feel like you need an extra spanking or some such thing.  Talk to your Dom.  I'll bet the two of you would be able to figure something fun out..




meticulousgirl -> RE: punishments.... (10/17/2007 11:13:22 AM)

the worst punnishment i've ever recieved just ended actually.  It wasn't fun, emotionally it hurt more than i could ever explain.  i was able to see my Owner but there was just this huge sense of guilt, alot of chastisement, a lot of pressure, and a series of tests and submission trials that were dealt out, the last night of my punnishment was the absolute worst, i have always been given the priveldge to sleep in my Masters bed that last night (the only night of the two weeks of punnishment that i actually spent with Him overnight) that priveledge was denied, i was ordered to sleep on the floor, i cried for hours, finally fell asleep, and then woke up numerous times throughout the night and cried more, woke up at 9:07a.m. and cried more until about 12:00 in the afternoon, i was so hurt, so confused, even though He was there i felt lost afterall my collar had been taken away, i wasn't His slave at that point but just a slave that was back under consideration and expected to be more obedient than i had ever been before. 

I'm stubborn, i repeat my mistakes so i think He wanted to make this one hard, wanted me to remember this one for a long time....and honestly i dont think i'll ever forget it because i never want to have to go through it again.

My advice is to not push:  In my experience, if you are craving something, if you are craving to be physically punnished or disciplined ask the Dominant for it, what i did to result in the above wasn't intentional and wasn't me pushing buttons it was a huge mistake but it was bad enough to loose my collar and almost my Master who i know i would be lost without.

As far as awaiting your punnishment dont stress to much, what you anticipate is almost always much worse than what actually happens (unless of course it's what i went through or release) which i doubt will happen or at least to the extent that it did with me.

Best wishes,

~meticulous~




piperpilot -> RE: punishments.... (10/17/2007 11:41:55 AM)

Being a Master, I will give you a little input from my point of view. I have slaves, both male and female. I also have rules which can be broken and slaves pay the price, form mild to harsh, pussy and titty spankings, cock and titty spankings. For real punishment, I will not allow them to meet with or talk with me for several days, depending on the rules infraction committed. The denial of my company seems to be the worst punishment I can give, besides de-collaring and releasing them. There are some rules made to be broken so that you can give the punishment that they crave and need to grow as a slave and other rules that must not under any circumstances be broken, such as unprotected sex with someone outside of your Masters circle, this to me would be grounds for release. I can not and will not have a slave that may infect my other trusting slaves with something that may kill them. A slave that runs around all over the state looking and trying on other Masters would never  be allowed into my "family" in the first place. but if it were to happen after said slave was collared, male or female, that slave would be gone and given bad references if I were contacted by some future Master of that slave. Hope this helps somewhat, Master Robert  




justnewsub -> RE: punishments.... (10/17/2007 3:53:48 PM)

i have to admit i am craving some extra attention, and that is what started this whole silly thing of me pushing him to see what would happen.... i look back now and feel pretty stupid about it....

i did give fair warning that i was feeling a bit rebellious... i just got carried away... maybe it's the catholic girl in me.... i feel really bad about it now and disappointed in myself for letting it go too far....

when i was a kid the worst punishment i could have ever received was to be ignored it still stands true... i'm lucky the rule that i broke wasn't a big one so there is no threat to the relationship, just a lesson to be learned...

meticulousgirl... ouch i couldn't handle that kind of punishment.... i start to feel bad with even the thought that my Dom is not happy with me... i can't even imagine being ostrisized like that... i'm glad your punishment is over with and hopfully things will start looking up for you (hugs)

Piperpilot... thank you for the input... i know better then to break any of my Dom's big rules... i started testing with the simple ones first and got a little warning that i was pushing it, then i went to a little bigger one but not too big, that is what got me into the trouble i'm in now....

trully the worst punishment is to be denied the company of our Doms...... 3 more hours before my Dom is home.... i am trying to keep up a brave face and take what i deserve.... see if i push any more... the waiting is almost punishment in and of its self....




littleone35 -> RE: punishments.... (10/17/2007 3:56:18 PM)

The worst i ever recieved (and the only one in 20 months) was when he used the strap on me.  That was very effective i never did ewaht i got punished for again.  Master would never deny me seeing him he said whay should he punish himself by not allow me to serve him.  I expect you will not break that rule again unless of course you want to be punished.

Matt's littleone




Sabella -> RE: punishments.... (10/17/2007 4:02:38 PM)

{{{Meticulousgirl}}}

I think I've seen him truely angry with me 3 times. It wasn't pretty. He just LOOKED at me and I was crushed, knowing I had disappointed/disobeyed him. The punishment I delt myself was worse than anything he could have done physically, I'd rather have been beaten than to have his complete withdrawal from me at that point. For less fury-invoking incidents (He's never struck me when angry) he'll do OTK, which I hate. HATE. I feel so helpless and ungraceful and shamed.

Justnewsub I know what you mean tho. I will get the same way, a little mouthy & sarcastic when I need some TLC (read: a good flogging) but he reads me well. Usually a yank to my knees by my hair & a little more bossiness & then later (if I'm good!) a good flogging has me happy again. I like corporal punishment [:)] there, I admitted it. LOL.




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: punishments.... (10/17/2007 4:11:42 PM)

The most common answers to this question are "being ignored" or "knowing I disappointed."

Personally I don't deal well with people who purposefully push boundaries to see how far they choke themselves, so I'd likely have stopped it a lot earlier and let you choke a lot longer.

Reposted:
IMO the most effective punishments are rare, quick, and direct.

The point at which I decide to give a punishment can take a good long while.  I need to assess what happened, we need to talk about what happened, I need to assess their mental and emotional state at the time and currently and I need to reconfigure my training style and processes to accommodate this.

Someone disobeying to the point of punishment means there's something already going wrong in the program.  I need to get to THAT before punishment will be effective.

Once I get to the point of punishment, I clearly explain what it is, make sure they completely understand and agree to the punishment, immediately put it into effect and then it's done.

I have to admit I'm often stunned to hear of people making elaborate punishments and wondering what on earth it has to do with whatever behavior they are attempting to change?  Life is too short, punishment is a dismal enough affair that makes me doubt, revise, re-plan and do a lot of clean up already.  Why make the actual punishment any longer than absolutely necessary?

http://www.collarchat.com/m_800482/mpage_1/key_punishment/tm.htm#800522
Punishment and how you choose to apply it

http://www.collarchat.com/m_611292/mpage_2/key_punishment/tm.htm#611778
Punishment is Deceptive

http://www.collarchat.com/m_597685/mpage_1/key_punishment/tm.htm#597689
Talking Vs Corporal Punishment

http://www.collarchat.com/m_572243/mpage_1/key_punishment/tm.htm#572280
Question for female subs on punishment

http://www.collarchat.com/m_18608/mpage_1/key_punishment/tm.htm#18608
Punishment and Discipline

http://www.collarchat.com/m_74162/mpage_1/key_punishment/tm.htm#74162
Training?  Punishment?

http://www.collarchat.com/m_84734/mpage_1/key_punishment/tm.htm#84734
Punishment vs Play

http://www.collarchat.com/m_146151/mpage_1/key_punishment/tm.htm#146151
What is the difference between punishment and discipline?

http://www.collarchat.com/m_374557/mpage_1/key_punishment/tm.htm#374557
Testing, being broken, regular punishment, etc, etc....

http://www.collarchat.com/m_523257/mpage_1/key_punishment/tm.htm#523257
Discipline & Punishment

http://www.collarchat.com/m_495126/mpage_1/key_punishment/tm.htm#495126
On punishment




RRafe -> RE: punishments.... (10/17/2007 7:00:55 PM)

thumbscrews?[;)]




onmykneesb4Him -> RE: punishments.... (10/17/2007 8:04:38 PM)

i'm kind of in the same boat you are right now.

i screwed up this afternoon. It's bad because like you, i was pushing limits i knew not to push. And this is not in any way, shape, or form, a new relationship for me- so i have no excuse. He gave me that look and now i am waiting to see what happens. i have no idea how long i will have to wait. He went to bed without saying anything to me and did not tell me to get into bed as well, as He usually does.

This is the worst part for me. Waiting. Knowing i did something wrong, but having no idea when or what is going to happen. i MUCH prefer several hard smacks on the ass, or being sent to the corner immediately.

So i guess that's the worst for me. i much prefer getting it over with, but i guess that's the point- i'm not supposed to like it.




RRafe -> RE: punishments.... (10/17/2007 8:32:27 PM)

A tawse hanging on a wall is always a good reminder.




daisymae03 -> RE: punishments.... (10/17/2007 8:43:14 PM)

i dont mean this to sound cocky, but ignoring me as a punishment just doesnt work. dont get me wrong, i adored any dom i was with, but to ignore me, even as a punishment just seems to make me more rebellious. maybe its my fear of abandonment ( which anybody ive served knows about) but ive only been punished with ignoring me once, i think it was his idea that if i felt like i was being abandoned i would behave better, in teh long run thoug it just ended te relationship. he started it with out any warning to me. he didnt tell me he was going to start and hadnt told me when it would stop. i found out he was punishing me by one of his friends. it really made me feel like i couldnt trust him.




leakylee -> RE: punishments.... (10/17/2007 9:40:57 PM)

the worst punishments i ever got went two ways. the first one had the most lasting effects. my Dom just simply refused to allow me to serve him. he wouldnt eat the plate that i fixed him. he opted to fix his own. fixed his own drink. yet he still talked to me like i was any person. the most shocking thing was after he finished his dinner. he cleaned up his own plate and did the dishes. i thought i was going to curl up and wail for days.

the worst i have been punished physically was a healthy beating from a crop. those can be so much fun, but when applied properly they can bruise from shoulders to hips.

lee




NLitendLady -> RE: punishments.... (10/17/2007 9:49:49 PM)

I dont know if it's the worst but the most effective punishment for me is corner time. I was put in the corner naked except for panties around one ankle and had to be silent while he was in the room behind me.

I had lots of time to think and punish myself mentally.  It's the most effective way to bring me back in line and keep me there. 

I feel so exposed, so vulnerable, so small almost like a child. I feel so alone. It's very difficult for me.




justnewsub -> RE: punishments.... (10/18/2007 9:45:29 AM)

well i did get my punishment, and it was not fun... as they are not supposed to be.  i agree the crop can be tons of fun but when used in a certain way and knowing you are being punished.... not as much fun... i was also then left in to think about what i did, it was very humiliating, made me feel like a child, and both my ass and ego are brused, however lesson is learned..... i will never break a rule agian (knowingly).... i know i'm not perfect i just hope i don't break any rules soon...

what i am amazed with is that my respect for my Dom has grown with this punishment also....




RRafe -> RE: punishments.... (10/18/2007 9:50:57 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: justnewsub

well i did get my punishment, and it was not fun... as they are not supposed to be.  i agree the crop can be tons of fun but when used in a certain way and knowing you are being punished.... not as much fun... i was also then left in to think about what i did, it was very humiliating, made me feel like a child, and both my ass and ego are brused, however lesson is learned..... i will never break a rule agian (knowingly).... i know i'm not perfect i just hope i don't break any rules soon...

what i am amazed with is that my respect for my Dom has grown with this punishment also....


Follow through means everything. Say what you do-do what you say. So you realize he means business? [;)]




justnewsub -> RE: punishments.... (10/18/2007 9:52:16 AM)

-fast reply-

boy do i




chellekitty -> RE: punishments.... (10/18/2007 10:05:40 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: leakylee

the worst punishments i ever got went two ways. the first one had the most lasting effects. my Dom just simply refused to allow me to serve him. he wouldnt eat the plate that i fixed him. he opted to fix his own. fixed his own drink. yet he still talked to me like i was any person. the most shocking thing was after he finished his dinner. he cleaned up his own plate and did the dishes. i thought i was going to curl up and wail for days.



that would be a horrific punishment for me...it would have to be for a very serious, repeated willful disobedience...and come with a lot of reassurance after it was done with....

the thing i like about punishment, if done right, is that it wipes the slate clean...it allows me to let go of the guilt that i will drag along with me...and some Dominants can achieve this kind of release without an actual "punishment"...but...i dunno...gonna have to think about this...




justnewsub -> RE: punishments.... (10/18/2007 10:18:30 AM)

i have to agree, the whole not being allowed to serve would make me feel like sh*t, almost as bad as being ignored. 

even with just the punishment i did receive i needed alot of reassurance after i can't imagine if my Dom went farther.... he even said he went easy on me this time, because he knew that i was testing my limits

but now i know and this sub/slave is going to be the bet girl she can be....




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