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MissMagnolia -> RE: is this complaining ? (10/20/2007 2:35:02 AM)
You have a stinking attitude for a slave. I'd beat the living shit out of you and some more for bitching. Do you get right into a relationship with a Master who is flogging you that hard within days of leaving the previous one? Now THAT'S scary. Your profile says I am into pussy torture and nipple torture and I love to be tied up and flogged. I am willing to relocate and I am looking to be a 24/7 slave. Sounds to me you have exactly what you want and deserve.

came4U -> RE: is this complaining ? (10/20/2007 2:45:33 AM)
maybe next week she will ask for advice cuz her nipples ache. [:(]

subnstudent -> RE: is this complaining ? (10/20/2007 2:51:21 AM)
wanting? probably, yes. Deserving? I don't think so. The human mind clings to patterns (some individuals more than others) and what I think is going on is she was attracted to the same things as in the previous relationship, (or said previous Dom apologized and she went back to him, "again," which some people do in the abusive relationship cycle). Anyways, she is feeling alone and needing someone, a person she is attracted to offered a comforting hand and she's, well, in Rebound Mode (tm). Personally I think that she doesn't know that she might be doing this (though with as little information that we have available to us I could be wrong), and her New Dom should slow down, a lot, and give her time to heal before putting too many rules, restrictions, and punishments on her. Assuming of course that he's taken responsibility for her, which if he hasn't... Then I pity her. No one should have to go through with that, no one should have to have that kind of experience. I understand that it will, but that doesn't mean I can't dislike it.

came4U -> RE: is this complaining ? (10/20/2007 3:19:34 AM)
quote: a person she is attracted to offered a comforting hand if it is so comforting, why is she complaining about being bruised up?

MissMagnolia -> RE: is this complaining ? (10/20/2007 3:22:54 AM)
Boo fucking hoo. Everyone feels lonely sometime. We don't all go out with someone who actually harms us. That's got nothing to do with being D or s. That's a personal option. You can like and dislike what you want to subnstudent, but the fact remains, she hasn't left him, regardless of how badly used she feels, she hasn't said she is thinking that maybe this is a bad thing. She's asking the opinions of other D's because her Master told her to. You put up with abuse that you then bitch about, but don't make any move to stop it, you want and deserve it.

Driver1961 -> RE: is this complaining ? (10/20/2007 3:48:46 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MissMagnolia Boo fucking hoo. EDITED.......... You put up with abuse that you then bitch about, but don't make any move to stop it, you want and deserve it. He dips His lid to all, Thanks for a typically Dominant (and in control of Oneself ) Reply Miss Magnolia. It is a slave talking that has not given alot of info in her Original post, however she is asking for advice and others have given relevant advice that she has responded to- subnstudent's reply is very reasonable. I see little point in attacking another sub's considered views but then again- You are 'In control' and clearly displaying your uncompromising authority over those not as 'together' as yourself! I dips my lid to all.......... Driver.

MissSCD -> RE: is this complaining ? (10/20/2007 5:03:18 AM)
It doesn't seem like complaining to me. . What you really need is to do soul searching to see if you want to stay in this relationship. One who enjoys inflicting this type of brusing and welts do not regard safety responsibilities as a Dom to their sub. I don't leave marks on my slave. There is an art to that, but there are those who are simply evil in my opinion. This one is not for you. Throw the collar away and find someone who will love you for you. Regards, MissSCD

TNstepsout -> RE: is this complaining ? (10/20/2007 6:42:37 AM)
No, it isn't complaining. If you don't tell him the status of your bruises he won't know when it's time to beat you again.

wisteriaV -> RE: is this complaining ? (10/20/2007 6:57:28 AM)
Yes it is complaining! Its annoying whining that is unbecoming someone who is supposedly into this type of activity. Beat the living shit out of you as miss magnolia says? Hell NO, I would wait until the marks healed then cut ya off from play or having orgasms for a month. Here's another clue its not about what you want, need, makes you happy ect..its all about your Master!

Vanatru -> RE: is this complaining ? (10/20/2007 7:35:18 AM)
iammachine, everything you're saying there is that BDSM subby garbage and not about M/s. A slave's choice is who she gives up her choice to, if she didn't choose well and carefully, that's her own damn fault. Also, a master can change his mind later on, and doing so doesn't break some kinda agreement, it means she has to decide if she can adapt or not.

fsub4use -> RE: is this complaining ? (10/20/2007 8:08:28 AM)
I love to mentioned my bruises to my Master.... it's like a badge of honor and like a big neon sign that says "Property of Master" ... for me and the man i used to play with it was a way of flirting for us. I'd go to the public baths and tell him after "Sir, my ass has a big big bruise on it." "Good, you and everyone else can see you are Mine, right?" he'd say with a smile on His face....

laurell3 -> RE: is this complaining ? (10/20/2007 9:34:45 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: UsemeinTexas quote: ORIGINAL: KnightofMists quote: ORIGINAL: UsemeinTexas What the hell does your Master think? What we think is rather pointless. YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT ONE THING, KNIGHTOFMISTS, WHAT YOU THINK IS RATHER POINTLESS!! hmm....yes you are whining....and a bit obnoxious.... by the way...unlike many others here, KoM is one guy that will always give straight advice, is sane and has quite a bit of experience that you just flamed for no reason.

chellekitty -> RE: is this complaining ? (10/20/2007 9:39:20 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Driver1961 quote: ORIGINAL: MissMagnolia Boo fucking hoo. EDITED.......... You put up with abuse that you then bitch about, but don't make any move to stop it, you want and deserve it. Thanks for a typically Dominant (and in control of Oneself ) Reply Miss Magnolia. It is a slave talking that has not given alot of info in her Original post, however she is asking for advice and others have given relevant advice that she has responded to- subnstudent's reply is very reasonable. I see little point in attacking another sub's considered views but then again- You are 'In control' and clearly displaying your uncompromising authority over those not as 'together' as yourself!. i am not a Dominant, i am on the otherside....been told i am a slave, i don't know what i am, but anyway, i agree 100% with MissMagnolia...if you know you are in an abusive relationship and you choose to stay in it, not a fucking thing i can do about it because you choose to stay in an abusive relationship and i don't want to hear you whine because he's tired of hearing you whine too.... chelle... PS. i don't know how anyone else feels about it, but the lid thing went past annoying for me a long time ago...no one else regularly tells us their physical mannerisms in greeting and saying good bye...for a good reason...is annoying....

laurell3 -> RE: is this complaining ? (10/20/2007 9:44:15 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Driver1961 quote: ORIGINAL: MissMagnolia Boo fucking hoo. EDITED.......... You put up with abuse that you then bitch about, but don't make any move to stop it, you want and deserve it. He dips His lid to all, Thanks for a typically Dominant (and in control of Oneself ) Reply Miss Magnolia. It is a slave talking that has not given alot of info in her Original post, however she is asking for advice and others have given relevant advice that she has responded to- subnstudent's reply is very reasonable. I see little point in attacking another sub's considered views but then again- You are 'In control' and clearly displaying your uncompromising authority over those not as 'together' as yourself! I dips my lid to all.......... Driver. Learn to read before you flame, she's one of the most unlikely candidates for ever exercising Domme muscle or being "typically Dominant" (whatever that means) and goes out of her way to give advice to and befriend others. But I see you have no problem exercising yours despite not having much of an idea of what you speak.

TheChauvinist -> RE: is this complaining ? (10/20/2007 9:45:19 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: UsemeinTexas when is mentioning the bruises and welts recieved during a session considered complaining? If I tell my Master that he has caused deep bruises or welts , shoule I keep him updated on the condition of the deep bruises and/or welts, or should I only mention it once? Is mentioning it once considered complaining when I only want to make sure he knows that he has hurt me? If your master says it's complaining then yes, it is complaining. If he whips you for mentioning them and you don't like the beatings then stop mentioning them. If he wants updates as to how your bruises are, he'll ask. If he wants to know if he has hurt you then he'll ask.

CreativeDominant -> RE: is this complaining ? (10/20/2007 11:30:42 AM)
I've read through this thread and have noted the various responses. First...you are INDEED whining and complaining. Sounds to me that your interest is not so much in "keeping him informed" for safety and health concerns but rather to attempt to lay a guilt trip on him. Second...your attitude is...to be blunt...piss poor. Your master told you to come on here and ask others what they thought and it is quite easy to see that those who have stated that you were complaining became the targets of your anger and dismissive, snide remarks. That only points up just how right most ...and I suspect, your Master...were in discerning that you were whining and complaining. You've flamed many on here who gave you honest answers and helpful answers. If you don't like the answers because they don't match up to your mindset, that's fine...you can state that you disagree but that isn't waht you are doing. Given your age, it can't be blamed on any sort of immaturity associated with youth but rather immaturity associated with a possible background of having been catered to or an unrealistic expectation of what really can happen when you are flogged/whipped by someone who is into a bit more than "ouchies". Flame away...

LadyLegs -> RE: is this complaining ? (10/20/2007 12:09:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: UsemeinTexas when is mentioning the bruises and welts recieved during a session considered complaining? If I tell my Master that he has caused deep bruises or welts , shoule I keep him updated on the condition of the deep bruises and/or welts, or should I only mention it once? Is mentioning it once considered complaining when I only want to make sure he knows that he has hurt me? We could give you the perfect words to tell your Master, but so much depends on the way you say it. I don't think we can tell online if you are whining or speaking respectfully. I personally would only expect to hear the word 'hurt" if medical treatment were required. Just my opinion.

sammiebabygirl -> RE: is this complaining ? (10/20/2007 12:58:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bearlee swoooooonnssss............ !!! yeah, what Focus said... b I agree. There is nothing hotter than a Dom talking about what His responsibilities towards His property are. jen

KnightofMists -> RE: is this complaining ? (10/20/2007 8:40:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: laurell3 quote: ORIGINAL: UsemeinTexas quote: ORIGINAL: KnightofMists quote: ORIGINAL: UsemeinTexas What the hell does your Master think? What we think is rather pointless. YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT ONE THING, KNIGHTOFMISTS, WHAT YOU THINK IS RATHER POINTLESS!! hmm....yes you are whining....and a bit obnoxious.... by the way...unlike many others here, KoM is one guy that will always give straight advice, is sane and has quite a bit of experience that you just flamed for no reason. First... thank you laurell for you postive comments with regards to myself. Second and directed to the OP.... I suspected by your OP that you had a differing opinion of your Master (or should I say EX-Master now) and this is the reason I asked the question of what your master thought and also if you agreed or disagreed. You come off very strongly like that you came here to help understand his reasons and not that you seeked support of your own hidden agenda. Well imagine my suprize when I read this in another thread that you posted two days ago quote: The Master that I just left would beat me while playing until I had large welts that would be purple bruises the next day. If he thought I needed punishment he would cane me until I bled. He refused to acknowledge the bruises or the wounds. He said I was whinning and complaining when I mentioned them at all and I would get punished again. I fainted twice from these harsh punishments. I left him soon after the second fainting. What I want to know is this: When you leave bruises on your property, is it ok for that person(property) to mention it ? If the bruises are shocking and severe is it ok to mention them once or more than once on separate days? So... I will say again... OUR OPINION IS POINTLESS.... What does matter is YOUR OPINION! everyone else opinion comes second to that! So what is YOUR OPINION of a Master/Top or who ever leaving bruises on your person and you wanting to share/discuss/state/show this person those bruises? Because IT IS YOUR BODY! Your emotions. Your Thoughts! Your EX-Master had a different approach. Personally that is not my approach... In fact, the way you describe it seems rather off to me... but some might not have an issue with it. But again... It's you that have to live with it... obviously you choose not to...... so I guess you didn't like his approach. Don't be afraid to want it a certain way for you! Just because you are Submissive doesn't mean you stop what you want or need. I would suggest that anyone entering into a relationship take a little time understanding what they need and want in A relationship... let alone a Lifestyle relationship. Lastly, I hope you learned a few things from the experience of this EX-Master... but I suspect by the way you have interacted on this board.. you might not have learned what you really needed to learn. I see way to many individuals such as yourself that in effect bite the hands that can feed you. Way to many individuals go from bad experience to bad experience because they fail to understand those they can learn from as well as failing to learn. There is alot of great individauls to learn from.. both in person and on forums like these. But, many are to much in a rush and/or have a hidden agenda that needs validating that they don't close mouth and listen.

RRafe -> RE: is this complaining ? (10/20/2007 8:45:43 PM)
They usualy complain that I don't mark enough. And wonder why-since I............well.[:D] As far as the op, it depends on how you inform him.

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