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ORIGINAL: LDRandAstarte

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ORIGINAL: chellekitty

welcome to the jungle, we've got fun and games...

umm...for all the "me too" responses...how many "not me" responses were there not? and that makes what percentage of the posting population on the CM boards have PTSD, DID (its no longer MPD, please fastforward to the present) and Bipolar? now....i am going to make a giant illogical leap like you did and say thats a representative cross section of the lifestyle....its not that many people...and if you went to an HUGE international BDSM event you might run across 1 or 3 or absofuckinglutely none...so....did i stay on subject?

Well, just a quick scan through this thread produced the following nubmbers;
3 pages long / 20 responses per page = 60 postings
many of them are the same person posting several posts, so being generous I will say 30 - 35 people involved in the thread (just a guess but prolly ~snicker~ close)
And 15 of them are stating they have PTSD, MPD or some kind of mental dysfunction at one timne or another.

That would amount to a few more then "1 or 3 or absofuckinglutely none"
That is scary, I still am wondering how safe this lifestyle is at this point!
(edited for fat fingers)

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ORIGINAL: LDRandAstarte

~fast reply~

Good grief! Don't worry I'll start the popcorn.
Are there no mentaly balanced people around here?
Has everyone got PTSD, MPD, or BiPOLAR? I'm starting to think this might not be a healty lifestyle after all, and it's only taken 22 years to realize it!

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ORIGINAL: LDRandAstarte

[Well, just a quick scan through this thread produced the following nubmbers;
3 pages long / 20 responses per page = 60 postings
many of them are the same person posting several posts, so being generous I will say 30 - 35 people involved in the thread (just a guess but prolly ~snicker~ close)
And 15 of them are stating they have PTSD, MPD or some kind of mental dysfunction at one timne or another.

That would amount to a few more then "1 or 3 or absofuckinglutely none"
That is scary, I still am wondering how safe this lifestyle is at this point!
(edited for fat fingers)

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ORIGINAL: chellekitty

umm...for all the "me too" responses...how many "not me" responses were there not? and that makes what percentage of the posting population on the CM boards have PTSD, DID (its no longer MPD, please fastforward to the present) and Bipolar? now....i am going to make a giant illogical leap like you did and say thats a representative cross section of the lifestyle....its not that many people...and if you went to an HUGE international BDSM event you might run across 1 or 3 or absofuckinglutely none...so....did i stay on subject?

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ORIGINAL: Kaiynasha

jen, I disagree, I am much more concerned about those with truama posting (kinda hard to live life as a human being and NOT have a little trauma along the way, lol)because they are EASY prey(as a blanket statement, that one scores high on the Bull Shit meter). They need to focus on healing themselves and I don't believe using D/s as a form of healing is one of them.(You base this opinion on what research?  What personal experience?) I think it is can be used for exploration- but for some serious work- one needs some serious therapy.(Yes, and no.  "Serious" as in determnied, hard, concerted, goal oriented work?  Yes.  "Serious" as in years and years?  Not necessarily.  "Serious" as in giving up an additional chunk of your life (sexuality, D/s, being around any and all triggers)? No.  How much to you personally know about memory replacement therapy, cognitive therapy, sex therapy, amd desensitization therapy, either as a professional or as an individual who's had experience with them? So then when they come into the lifetstyle And if they were already in the lifestyle?  And what about people who's initial experience with sex was highly negative?  They should live celibate until mankind perfects selective "mind wipe" therapy?...they don't have any problem with setting up the own boundaries and limits. This case here is about boundaries. Actually, it isn't really a boundary issue.  Example:  I hadn't had a major PTSD episode in about 15 years.  There I was, in the home of my master, lover, and friend, when what should I happen to hear but another member of the household, and a third individual, engaged in a very mundane, nilla, fairly pedestrian interaction.  Nothing had infringed on my healthy and reasonable personal boundaried.  And I had a major flashback anyway.  The trigger was pretty obvious - after the fact.  It was unforseeable ahead of time.  Should that aprticular scenario, or one close to it, come up again sometime, it will not "blindside" me. -and probably won't have nearly as strong a effect.  Long before this, I did a hell of a lot of healing on my own.  Then I had some professional therapy and put the finishing touches on it.  I'm a stable person, who's past experiences are not a day to day problem.  The fact remains that there is no way in hell to look into the tea leaves and know ahead of time every trigger you might run into during the course of your life.  Sure, you can avoid most of the potential triggers, provided you are willing to give up really living, and all hope of having a good, healthy, and full life.  Personally, I find being a slave to the sub-human waste of DNA who raped me to unacceptable.  No way I'm going to abdicate living because of something done to me decades ago.  Further, why should the OP, or anyone else, give up actually living their life because once upon a time, they were injured by some asshole?
 
Life is a glorious journey.  It is also a bit of a mine field.  Some of the bombs can be avoided with common sense.  Some can be avoided by learning from the mistakes of others.  Nothing, however, is assured.  It isn't realistic to stop the journey just because you don't know where all the mines are.  Let's say the OP, or someone else with PTSD, or PTSS, does a few years of therapy (which can be a good thing, certainly).  The frequency of minor PTDS symptoms, and more serious ones like flashbacks, will probably diminish - quite drastically so, if all goes well.  That will not guarantee there aren't any at all.
 
Grace

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ORIGINAL: Kaiynasha

And yes, I believe it is a boundary issue. A sub shouldn't have alcohol during play- especially a sub who has been through trauma. I don't care if you trust the person with your life- your have to protect yourself first. That means setting up personal boundaries that is best for you.

Post-trauma needs therapy and some serious work. The person has to rebuild so many things.
 
I do agree with this. I did not even start exploring my submissive desires until after spending years dealing with the effects of my abuse.
 
What I posted earlier in this thread about my dissociative experience during a scene, was directly related to the fact that I was under the influence of marijuana. As I said in that post, I have and will never touch the stuff again and am adamantly against ANYONE playing while under the influence of any substance, including alcohol.
 
jen

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ORIGINAL: Kaiynasha

Trauma is never a little thing...and never a little issue. It is a big issue and if isn't taken care of through a professional it could mess with how the person function IRL (in real life).