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The female shape... - 10/24/2007 4:54:44 AM   
submissfifi


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Hi,

I was just curious as to whether any of us sub/slaves are/have dieted and exercised under instruction for a Master/Sir.

Whether it was forced? or a mutual commitment? as in your Master/Sir told you to do it, or that Master/Sir knew it was something that you were thinking also, and just tried to encourage it.

Are there any subs/slaves here that refuse to change their body shape to please a Master/Sir? Is your body shape a part of you that your not willing to change, for whatever reason known to yourself.

Do any of us subs/slaves have a negative body image? (I know I'm asking a stupid question, we all have our hang ups. But is this known to your Master/Sir and do they use it against you?)

Just be interested in hearing some views and opinions of others, thanks.

Fi x

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RE: The female shape... - 10/24/2007 5:18:36 AM   
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Sorry but submissive I may be, a DOORMAT I am not; if a man doesn't like my body shape to begin with, he isn't  attracted to me and I wouldn't WANT him to be attracted to me ONLY after I worked out/lost weight for him; that would be a cop out and proof of how shallow he is.

I'm not skinny by any means, I'm an hourglass Au14/16 but I LOVE my curves, as does my Daddy. I wouldn't change my body for him, for anyone. When I was younger, I used to have the same body image issues we all go through, but as I got older, I realised that a real man doesn't give a flying f*ck; as long as you're happy, as long as YOU love your body, you'll find men who love it too.  I love my Daddy and will do as he asks (though thankfully he'd never ask me to that) but the point is, I would never choose a Dom who was that shallow. Hope that helps and apologies if it came off ranty, it's 2am here lol.


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RE: The female shape... - 10/24/2007 5:24:29 AM   
Kellendra


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Hi fifi,
Not sure there are many things that fall under quite as dangerous a heading as weight for many women.
Most men would stay the hell away from that one..if they know what is good for them....(laughs)
I have had a tea spoon of experience, so can't really answer the bulk of your question...but will give my 3 cents worth, if I may....
Would I loose weight under direction from my Master?.
It would likely depend on the circumstances.....if I needed to for health reasons.....probably.....if it was with the right support etc...
I lost a supermodel in weight under my own steam, because I wasn't happy with me....so....if suggested by the Dom for health reasons etc and it was going to make life better...yes I possibly would.
Having lost a bunch of weight, I do feel better...in every respect..and I hate people like me that say that stuff, because you should be happy with who you are ...but it is true.

As to body image...well for me  personally.....it depends on the day, hell sometimes the hour!....and I suspect some people would/could use that....an insecure sub is one less likely to go looking elsewhere perhaps....
Can only speak for myself of course ,but I  just honestly would not feel secure and safe with someone that would use that against me....
People usually only tear others  down when they feel like shit about themselves.....would rather build people up than knock them down.
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*Takes off her rose coloured nerdy girl glasses and smiles*

The female form is a truly beautiful thing in all shapes and sizes.
Probably not what you were after...but just my opinion.



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RE: The female shape... - 10/24/2007 5:29:54 AM   
TNstepsout


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If I had a sub/slave that was overweight and needed to get in shape I would insist that s/he join a gym and get cracking. Why? Because I'm doing it. Yes, if I must feel the pain, so should he. If I can do it, he can do it. We all need to be in good shape and be healthy.

From the other perspective, if I were a sub and a Dom insisted that I lose weight and get to a gym, it would depend on how he approached the subject as to how I reacted. If I were made to feel as if I were less desirable and less of a person because I did not live up to his standards, and therefore he had to "fix" me,  I would rebel. But if he approached it from the angle that he had only my best interests and health in mind then I think the added incentive and motivation would be a big boost to staying on track.


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RE: The female shape... - 10/24/2007 5:33:16 AM   
Neala


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Hmmm....This is quite an interesting question.

If I was approached by a Dom who as soon as we met, demanded I lose weight I would laugh at him. If he isn't attracted to me...why in the hell is he talking to me?

Now if it had been a while or I had expressed I wanted to lose weight I would have no issues what so ever.

I'm not at tip-top shape, but I'm not in bad shape either. I'm around an 8-10 (US size). The most important thing is...I'm healthy. I can walk up a flight of stairs and not have to sit down and take a breather once I reach the middle. If someone has an issue with my current size then they should be asking themselves why they are bothering.

As far as negative images go....There's only a certain time of the month that I hate my body. I see every single tiny flaw x 10 during that time. Other wise, I would still like to lose a bit of weight but over all...I'm okay with me! 

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RE: The female shape... - 10/24/2007 5:40:34 AM   
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I've done it for a man, I've done it for me, I've done it at the direction of a Master, i've done it without. It works best for me when someone else keeps track of it, like a doctor, a friend, or a Dom. I am not the most self-directed person when it comes to doing things I don't really like to do.

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RE: The female shape... - 10/24/2007 5:46:54 AM   
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~fast reply~

Daddy accepts me as i am.  he knows i'm still losing weight slowly and is concerned only that i do it safely.  he thinks i'm beautiful....and i'm learning to hold my tongue and say thank you rather than argue and get into trouble.  i accept me as i am...i just dont see myself as he does.

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RE: The female shape... - 10/24/2007 6:01:55 AM   
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Saying I won't accept you as you are and you have to lose weight to be with me is alot different than saying, I'm concerned about your health, let's work out together or let me help you keep track of your workout schedule, diet, etc.  I don't need to lose weight, I could live much healthier, however.
I would not be with someone who's acceptance of me was conditional. 
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RE: The female shape... - 10/24/2007 6:05:50 AM   
Sabella


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quote:

ORIGINAL: submissfifi

Hi,

I was just curious as to whether any of us sub/slaves are/have dieted and exercised under instruction for a Master/Sir.

Whether it was forced? or a mutual commitment? as in your Master/Sir told you to do it, or that Master/Sir knew it was something that you were thinking also, and just tried to encourage it.
No, but I would love this, LOL. He wisely doesn't stand between me and my chocolate once a month. When I grit my teeth and refuse myself it's punishment enough and something *I* must do. He will tell me no (and does on a regular basis) on things he knows I have issues with like pasta & breads. This is more health related than having anything to do with weight issues tho. Processed grains make me sleepy and lethargic and my stomach swells.

quote:

Are there any subs/slaves here that refuse to change their body shape to please a Master/Sir? Is your body shape a part of you that your not willing to change, for whatever reason known to yourself.
Surgical alterations are a hard limit for me. So is cutting my hair short. But he loves my hair so we're safe there.

quote:

Do any of us subs/slaves have a negative body image? (I know I'm asking a stupid question, we all have our hang ups. But is this known to your Master/Sir and do they use it against you?)

Just be interested in hearing some views and opinions of others, thanks.

Fi x


There are probably more women who HAVE negative body image issues than those that don't because of the bombardment we get from birth to be smoother, thinner, yet have bigger boobs! ect ect. Little girls not even wearing training bras hate how they look. It's beyond senseless. But no, he's never used an insecurity against me EVER. I think anyone that would is being unnecessarily cruel and I hope you aren't experiencing that no matter what your shape or size.

If you are in a "normal" weight range (and from looking at your pictures you look terrific to me) but you want to tone up then do it. But work harder on your perceived self image harder. That's the mirror in your mind that gets distorted and will often stay distorted no matter what you do. I know women who are damn near "perfect" visually to me and they hate themselves. They hate their hair, their eyes, their weight, their ass, their boobs, their stomach, everything. They are so hung up on that inner mirror they they won't even look in mirrors and when they do they hate themselves all day long. It doesn't matter what others say (always compliments) they think their friends & SO's are lying to them.

Keep in mind too that time marches on. Things change, they always will. The best thing you CAN change is being happy with yourself NOW. If you have things you want to do physically (say horseback riding, or skiiing, or mountain climbing or picking up your kids without hurting yourself or whatever) that you can't do because you are too weak then this is an excellent incentive to do something positive physically. Don't do it just because you think you need to or someone else says you should. The motivation has to come from within. If it's from solely someone else's wishes you'll have no joy in it, and it will be much harder to do.




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RE: The female shape... - 10/24/2007 6:13:10 AM   
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I miss the whole food/toilet control - and any Daddy Dom I have had or would have enables me the freedom to feel better about myself in everyway:):)  This for me is one of the biggest attractions - The control to give me the freedom. 

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RE: The female shape... - 10/24/2007 6:23:11 AM   
Maya2001


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Take a look at my photos   --- I have had a dom say he wanted me to  go to a gym , now if I worked an office job and he was going to pay for it I might be inclined to say okay -- but I work a physically demanding factory job, I am approaching 49  the last thing I want to be doing is running around or pumping more metal that I already do in a given week,
I may not like what gravity and time is doing to my body but overall I feel my body shape is okay and accept it I will never have the same shape I had at 30,  If dom wants me to exercise to have the 30 year body he will have to look elsewhere      

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RE: The female shape... - 10/24/2007 6:24:34 AM   
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Maya...I perved ya...you sooo don't need a gym

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RE: The female shape... - 10/24/2007 6:25:41 AM   
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Im sorry but I have always accepted my sub/slaves the size and shape that they were. If they wanted to go on a diet and came to me for a little help with said diet or for a exercise rutine then yes I would help. But I would ask them If they wanted it done with me in the role of Dom or as me as a regular person. Loosing weight is hard enough to ask someone for a little support is not unherd of but for someone to demand it. That just means they never liked them in the first place.

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RE: The female shape... - 10/24/2007 6:31:07 AM   
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Actually, he wants to set up a loft space as an exercise room. My only caveat is that the space is unheated and I'm not agreeing to work up a sweat in February in a room that's about 10 above max. So if he can figure out how best to heat it, that's fine.

Oh, and you can buy unassembled treadmills on ebay for much less than Sears sells them, so he's agreed to assemble one.

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RE: The female shape... - 10/24/2007 6:33:45 AM   
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hey that brings up a thought...I had a padded treadmill for a long time because it's the only way I can run now due to knee problems.  I never used the thing past the first few months, they are incredibly boring compared to what I was used to which is running through the parks and forest.  If, however, someone motivated me in person...well that would be both interesting and beneficial.
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RE: The female shape... - 10/24/2007 6:34:29 AM   
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I am far from a barbie, nor will I ever be a barbie. I blame it on my genes, my body make up, and my medication. Phoenix has never demanded I work out or diet but when asked to support me or even push me he has. Not because he found issues with my body but because he wanted to be there to help support me. The reality is even if you loose weight for someone else - if that is the only reason you loose it eventually you will resent them or you will fall back into old habits and resent yourself. I learned along time ago I have to love me for me or I wont allow others to love me either.
 
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RE: The female shape... - 10/24/2007 6:38:28 AM   
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I don't have any issues with my body image and generally feel good about it.  I wouldn't go on a diet because I think they're unhealthy but I would work on developing healthy eating habits.  My Master did give me a rule that I'm to eat regularly because I have a tendency to get busy, and let it go for too long and then I start getting shaky and moody and can make myself sick that way.  He's also limited my coffee intake some and I've been trying not to use coffee as a food substitute.  At one time we were going to the gym, and he was guiding my workouts which was really cool.  I've never really excersised and had never been to a gym before that.  Having him tell me how many sets to do and that sort of thing was very satisfying. 

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RE: The female shape... - 10/24/2007 6:41:08 AM   
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greetings fifi,

i have a history of eating disordered behavior and negative body image, so while he might occasionally make a comment that's not very sensitive, in general, he doesn't say negative things about my body. because my health conditions sometimes make it difficult for me to lose weight (and because he is experiencing the same issue at the moment), he also has never required me to lose weight or change my body shape for him. i knew from the get go that he liked my body at high normal/slightly overweight; when i gained a bit of weight he still found me attractive but i am looking forward to getting back down to my high-normal weight to please him, even though he is not requiring it of me.

in general, i'm a bit schizo when it comes to my body image. i can portray a confident, self-assured sense of my body image to the world regardless of my weight, but i think i will always be at risk for falling back into negative body image, and sometimes it can just depend on the day, hour, or moment as to which it is. i would change my body shape for my master if he wished it of me, but i would not change it for anyone else. in terms of dieting/exercising under someone else's direction, he would not be interested in really monitoring that aspect of it, even if he did require me to change my body shape...i am under the care of a nutritionist though, and i've found that to be really helpful in a lot of ways (not only in terms of changing body shape but with body image and many other things).

respectfully,
annabelle.


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RE: The female shape... - 10/24/2007 6:48:05 AM   
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i love the way i look, anyone can look at my pics here and see how much it doesn't bother me. But, at the same time, i'd like to loose some weight, mainly in my tummy and thighs. However i have no real will power. i start exercising, take a break for a day a week later, and then never start up again for a few months- and the cycle just starts over. So if i had a Dom that wanted me to loose some wait, as long as the goals were realistic- i'd say somewhere around a 14 would be reasonable- and He knew it was going to take some time- i'm a 22 now- then i wouldn't mind. I actually mention it in my profile because when i updated it i was exercising anyway.

But if a Dom approached me and said something like "I'm not using you until you weigh X amount" then no. That wouldn't be the Dom for me. The Dom for me is happy with the way i look now but encourages me to reach a goal that i need help reaching. So even if i never reach to be a 14 or so, He'd still be happy with me.

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RE: The female shape... - 10/24/2007 6:51:15 AM   
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I hope it's OK for a male subby to post here, but I believe the female shape is such a wonderful sight.  Whether it's the softness of her skin, the curves of her hips or thighs, or the shine on her moist lips, a woman is perfect in all regards, no matter if they are a size 2 or size 22.  For as far back as I can remember, I was alwas attracted to the rubenesque type of lady.  There is just something so sexy and sensual about a woman with real curves and a shape, but that's just my opinion.  I believe someone should be accepted for who they are.  The only way I believe a woman should diet and lose weight is simply for health reasons, not because master simply wants a skinny barbie doll on his arm.  Ladies, please don't ever sacrifice your dignity to please a man, even if he is your master.  If he loves and cherishes you, he will accept you no matter what size you are.

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