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RE: S&M - 11/1/2007 6:19:03 PM

Celeste43

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I think it sounds nice but doesn't hold water. If a sadist and masochist get to talking in a dungeon and negotiate a scene, there isn't any love exchanged, hell they probably won't even exchange real first names, forget about phone numbers. He may be a needle pro and she wants to do it but her dominant is squicked by doing it. In such a case, the love being exchanged will not be by the sadist, but the dom who brought her, who provides the aftercare, and who goes home with her.

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RE: S&M - 11/1/2007 6:21:37 PM

sweetnurseBBW

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Before I met Master I played with those just to fulfill the need. I am a masochist and did do casual play for just the pain. No love was involved in that at all.

Sometimes I just need the sensation of the erotic pain. A sadist has a need to inflict pain as much as a masochist needs to feel it sometimes. Love has nothing to do with it. I have played with sadists to just fulfill my own masochistic needs, love and romance had nothing to do with that either.

Sometimes Master just needs to see me tortured, red and spent. Did love motivate it? I doubt it, just the need to fulfill something, just as I have the reciprocal need.

Sometimes a primal want needs to be fulfilled and it has nothing to do with love. It isn't a bad thing, just the way things are sometimes.

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RE: S&M - 11/1/2007 10:04:48 PM

slave4urneeds

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Pain, i seek the pain and my body and mind require it. i do not have to love or be in love with another to convert the pain to what i need. Do i have to have trust, without a doubt!! Sometimes it is pleasure and sometimes it is the physical release of the energy i hold within myself. It is very freeing experience to have. If you want to call this the search for emotional pleasure, i guess you could, but i don't think that anyone can define it in black and white. i don't want it to be. Each experince that i have can only be based on my mind, my need and the intentions of the one that i am doing the scene. i love the experiences i have had and i crave more!!

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