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RE: Should a Sub have to give up her loves? - 11/1/2007 8:32:35 AM   
RRafe


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Status: offline 		I'm not a pet and kids guy-I just don't get involved with people who have them.

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RE: Should a Sub have to give up her loves? - 11/1/2007 8:59:10 AM   
meticulousgirl


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Status: offline 		it just depends on the situation and how serious it is.

my Owner for example has adopted my cat, my cat favors my Owner, more than he does myself or the rest of my immediate family but that cat still lives with me.  my Owner has never ordered me to give something up, and to be honest i dont think He ever will.

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RE: Should a Sub have to give up her loves? - 11/1/2007 1:30:59 PM   
Mellissande


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Status: offline 		I thank you all again. Your insight has been extremely helpful to me. Being an animal lover it's hard to imagine giving up my "babies" I just don't want to expect something from my master that He or She cannot do (I.E. accepting my Animals)

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RE: Should a Sub have to give up her loves? - 11/1/2007 1:40:16 PM   
batshalom


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ORIGINAL: Mellissande

You see I don't just have a cat, I have a cat, a male pit bull and a female bull terrier, and two ferrets... I absolutely love my Animals, But I do not want to end up alone because of them either...


LA was very clear and precise about this issue. Her posts were correct. There is no consensus, just as there is no one answer with regard to vanilla relationships.

Not everyone likes animals. Out of the people who like animals, not everyone likes bull terriers or ferrets or cats. If your animals are important to you, then find someone who likes them as much as you do. Or settle for someone who doesn't. Pretty cut & dried issue.

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RE: Should a Sub have to give up her loves? - 11/1/2007 1:47:04 PM   
LotusSong


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ORIGINAL: Mellissande

If Collared, This sub has Animals. And would like to know what Other Doms think about whether she should give up the Animals she loves for the Master She loves to serve?


Who were with you first :) ?
How attached are they to you? 
Do you really think it is fair to those animals that have bonded with you?
Your animals are part of your "package"
 
I say:  Love me. love my dog, Mathster. :)
 
Also- masters will come and go as will D/s BDSM. 

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RE: Should a Sub have to give up her loves? - 11/1/2007 1:54:29 PM   
MistressPurpleFL


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Status: offline 		I love animals and I would never get involved with someone who didn't like animals.  Unfortunately sometimes my four legged pet is more loyal and obedient than her two-legged cousins are LOL.

Compatibility as others have told you are important; men and women come and go; you love animals and the man or woman you get involved with should love you and your animals.  For me it is a package deal no and's if's or but's about it.

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RE: Should a Sub have to give up her loves? - 11/1/2007 2:16:08 PM   
Cipherx


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Status: offline 		 I mostly agree with batshalom.  Ultimately, you have to decide which is the most important to you.

I like dogs and cats as well as most other animals, however, I am no longer willing to share my life or home with one.  If a slave cannot or does not want to accept that I can understand. 

In another sense, if she truly wants to be a slave, she should know that her wants are of little importance compared to serving her Master.

As long as slavery in consensual, it is up to the slave to decide.

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RE: Should a Sub have to give up her loves? - 11/1/2007 2:30:45 PM   
twistedwillow


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Status: offline 		In this instance LA has it right.
Personally, if it was a cut n dried issue ... if it was animals OR Dom, I'd take my animals. They are family, they didn't ask to be 'mine'. If nothing else i owe them the safety of a good home, and I love them just as much as my 2 legged family members.

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RE: Should a Sub have to give up her loves? - 11/1/2007 2:34:12 PM   
MistressPurpleFL


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Status: offline 		Hello I agree with some of your thoughts but as far as animals are concerned a person who has animals can be a true slave without giving up her furry friends.
 
Animals are living breathing creatures and should not just be discarded because a "Master or Mistress" does not like them; that being said a animal lover needs to find a Dom or Domme who love animals or at least can tolerate them.
 
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RE: Should a Sub have to give up her loves? - 11/1/2007 2:53:08 PM   
MissMagnolia


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Status: offline 		To answer the question "should a sub have to give up her loves?", for me the answer is yes, if  you are in a 24/7 relationship and it is something the D requires.

In that case, obviously you would only get involved in the first place with someone who likes animals.

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RE: Should a Sub have to give up her loves? - 11/1/2007 2:57:18 PM   
Lordandmaster


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Status: offline 		I once had a sub who gave up her dog for me (knowing that I'm mildly allergic to dogs).  I was like, What the fuck did you do that for, I didn't tell you to give up your dog and anyway you should have discussed it with me first.  She said, Oh, I thought you'd prefer it that way.  And I said, The best way to know what I'd prefer is to ASK ME.

The relationship was over maybe a month later, and I have no idea what ever happened to that dog.

Moral: Talk to your dom before getting rid of your dog.  One day your dog might be the only companion you have left.

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RE: Should a Sub have to give up her loves? - 11/1/2007 3:29:31 PM   
Squeakers


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Status: offline 		Nope because I made sure he loved cats very early on.

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RE: Should a Sub have to give up her loves? - 11/1/2007 10:10:09 PM   
MrSpectacular


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Status: offline 		I would never expect a sub to give up an animal for me. Part of getting to know someone is you accept who they are, some of the baggage they carry and respect their current circumstance. In your case your pets.

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RE: Should a Sub have to give up her loves? - 11/2/2007 2:06:45 AM   
eyesopened


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Status: offline 		One of the first questions i have asked a prospective partner is "Do You have any pets, human or animal?"  This lets me know if they may be compatible (i have two cats) and it lets me know if they have the capacity to care for and have affection something/someone else.  The answers, if truthful, are telling.  Maybe they had pets at one time but now live in an apartment, or became allergic, or His pet (female) still lives with Him.  Whatever the answer, it's all good information to have.

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RE: Should a Sub have to give up her loves? - 11/2/2007 5:29:22 AM   
Maya2001


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Status: offline 		I have 4 dogs the oldest has been with me for almost 11 years, the second oldest is 10 have had for 7 years , the third is 6 had for 4 years, she is a special needs dog(health and psychological issues)  and the newest is amost 2 years old got as a pup.   There is no way is heck I would get rid of them, the first 3 would be almost impossible to rehome which would mean likely having to euthanize  in order to get rid of , and no way is that going to happen before it is their time , when I got my dogs I made a commitment to them to provide for them for their lifetime and that obligation stays in effect since they were here first , if a future dom cannot accept them  then he will be looking elsewhere for a sub.  The only agreement I could possibly make is not to add to my herd as they pass away, but they also would have to remain indoor dogs as they were adopted/purchased under a contract that specifically states indoor pet only

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RE: Should a Sub have to give up her loves? - 11/2/2007 5:38:55 AM   
Aceton


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Status: offline 		Personally I have found very, very negative personality traits in people that do not tolerate animals. Its almost as if they see the pet as competition. It's not. It's an animal, and a valued companion.

I can see why people might want to avoid people with children. Children are humans who require that their mother/father  put them and their welfare before anything else. If you don't have an interest in that, then okay. But to include a pet in the same category? Sorry, that's very very lame.

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RE: Should a Sub have to give up her loves? - 11/2/2007 5:48:47 AM   
alexus


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ORIGINAL: Mellissande

If Collared, This sub has Animals. And would like to know what Other Doms think about whether she should give up the Animals she loves for the Master She loves to serve?


If a prespective Dominant would ask that of you, then as a human, Dominant, Top, whatever you want to call him, he would not even be considered by me.

If a person were to give up their pets because of the Dominant asking it of them, then they shouldn't be allowed to own pets

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RE: Should a Sub have to give up her loves? - 11/2/2007 6:04:00 AM   
urtoy


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Status: offline 		My cat has never lied to me, cheated on me, stolen from me, or moved it's unemployed friends into my home for me to support. If forced to choose between a man and my cat, there's not a single doubt in my mind I'd choose the cat.
  More than that, Peach came to live with me at a difficult time, when I was grieving for te recet loss of a loved one. My heart was broken and I didn't believew I'd ever smile again. His funny face and cute antics helped my heart to heal and restored me to wholeness. In return, I made a commitment to provide a loving home for the rest of his life. I could not respect a man who expected me to dishonor my commitment: it would make me suspect his own "commitments" were meaningless. But I'm also leery of men who put elderly parents in nursing homes, abandon their responsibilities to their disabled children, etc.
  And animals are remarkable bullshit detectors. I often defer to the judgment of His Catship.

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RE: Should a Sub have to give up her loves? - 11/2/2007 7:47:59 AM   
OsideGirl


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ORIGINAL: MissMagnolia

To answer the question "should a sub have to give up her loves?", for me the answer is yes, if  you are in a 24/7 relationship and it is something the D requires.
Owning a a pet is a resonsibility. These animals didn't ask to be our pets, we take over their lives. A Dominant that would treat that responsibiluty, care and love for our animals as something disposable would worry me.

After the pets, what else is disposable? My family?

So, actually, if a Dominant requires that you get rid of your pets, you might want to reconsider your relationship. Chances are the pets will be around longer than the relationship.

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RE: Should a Sub have to give up her loves? - 11/2/2007 1:24:08 PM   
Focus50


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Status: offline 		If a prospective partner had a certain species of pet that was a problem for me, I'd factor that into her prospects rather than make her choose between it and I.  But there is room for some compromise....  I don't like cats, for eg, but if it's that important to her then I do have room to build a proper cat enclosure so it can't interfere with the wildlife that I encourage to visit my home.
 
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