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popeye1250 -> RE: Thoughts on Bonfire night and the enviroment. (11/4/2007 6:43:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

Popeye i spent part of the last three summers in the southern states..... I loved it there, except for the mosquitos and fire ants.... They seemed to like fresh blood !!


Sub53, the bonfire last night was so hot once it got going that we had to stay about 40 feet away from it.
It was big wooden logs and other stuff stacked up about 15-20 feet high.
They had a front end loader that they used to stack it that high.
Yeah, the fire ants are a bitch but we don't have that many mosquitoes along the coast for some reason here.




beeble -> RE: Thoughts on Bonfire night and the enviroment. (11/6/2007 1:03:55 AM)

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popeye1250 wrote: Leister (SP?) England

Leicester.  England's full of places whose spelling and pronunciation have almost nothing to do with each other.  Alnwick (ANN-ick), Appletreewick (APP-trick), Bicester (BISS-ter), Featherstonehaugh (FAN-shaw), Keighley (KEETH-lee), Loughborough (LUFF-bruh), Slaithwaite (SLAU-it), Sowerby Bridge (SOOR-bee bridge).  And [anything]-borough which, in the UK, is pronounced -bruh, rather than -borrow.




MercTech -> RE: Thoughts on Bonfire night and the enviroment. (11/6/2007 10:13:19 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Aneirin

This evening as I was walking down to my local,it was unusually misty, but the air smelled acrid, a gunpowder smell. This was because many were celebrating Bonfire night a little early and the sky was shocked with the sound of fireworks.

Bonfire night traditionally celebrated in Great Britain on November the fifth in response to a certain Guy Fawkes who tried unsuccessfully to blow up the house of parliament. Can't remember if was in celebration of his intent or his capture.

Now the thought came about bonfire night, a question and perhaps a criticism.What with this world and all the stuff about the atmosphere and dwindling resources, why are there perhaps thousands of tons of wood burned on one night of the year, not to mention all the chemicals put into the atmosphere from fireworks.

Does it not seem two faced for all and sundry to persecute us for our waste, carbon footprint and Co2 emissions when on one night of the year and perhaps a few running up to it, it would seem a no holds barred, free for all; 'lets pollute the atmosphere' with wood smoke and gunpowder.And what about all that timber that is burned, surely it could be used elsewhere, is wood that easy a commodity to come by?

It does seem to me , the usual noise in the ears people who promote all this be nice to the earth, are strangely quiet, perhaps because they themselves are joining in the tradition and ignoring what they like the rest of the Uk are doing.

Just my thoughts


Don't buy into popspeak silliness.  Burning wood does not contribute to global warming.
What contributes is taking the carbon that was bound up in the soil during the carboniferous age and putting it back into circulation.  Increasing the carbon loading in the atmosphere makes it a better insulator and the temperature increases.  This was a class dynamic balance equation I had in college back in 1975.  No one took it seriously until the mean ocean temperature increased enough to be noticeable around 2000.
Bonfires just recirculate the carbon that is already available.

Just as silly is the concept of conserving paper to save the rain forest.  Paper comes from farmed softwood trees. This is recycling guys. <grin>  Rainforests are lost to clear cutting and burning to make pasture land for cattle.

Just a pre-coffee morning rant. <grin>

Stefan




MercTech -> RE: Thoughts on Bonfire night and the enviroment. (11/6/2007 10:15:51 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Aneirin

Burning wood to heat homes and cook food is a traditional and necessay use of the stuff, but burning it just for the burning seems to me a massive waste.

Real timber that is, the particle board stuff can go if a better use cannot be found for it. Mind particle board is not of much use anyway!



Um.... you shouldn't burn particle board.
The phenolic resin used to bind particle board breaks down when burned and the smoke becomes a toxic gas.  Not highly toxic but enough to trigger severe allergy attacks in those that get them and give asthamatics a trip to hospital.

Stefan




popeye1250 -> RE: Thoughts on Bonfire night and the enviroment. (11/6/2007 11:59:58 AM)

I don't think most people were thinking too much about the "environment" just about how much fun bonfires, fireworks and cookouts can be.
And there must have been 20 kids there who were running around the bonfire and having a blast.
If you listened to those anal-retentive "Global Warming" idiots you'd shut yourself up in the house forever and never do anything.
It really should be a law that they have to wear uniforms and beanies.




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