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RE: How Does a Dominant Dominate You??? What does he/s... - 11/16/2007 12:36:28 PM   
Blaakmaan


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ORIGINAL: ABMaster

Blaakmaan.....did you get your question answered sufficiently?


Well, yes and no.

I appreciate all of the insight and input from all who have responded.  But, there's always more to hear and to know.

So, I'll just read the replies until people run out of things to say.

Although I know people like to wax poetic on here about D/s and their own Dominants or submissives, I do especially appreciate those who have given concrete examples to illustrate what they're saying.

Blaakmaan

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RE: How Does a Dominant Dominate You??? What does he/s... - 11/16/2007 1:26:07 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Blaakmaan

quote:

ORIGINAL: ABMaster

Blaakmaan.....did you get your question answered sufficiently?


Well, yes and no.

I appreciate all of the insight and input from all who have responded.  But, there's always more to hear and to know.

So, I'll just read the replies until people run out of things to say.

Although I know people like to wax poetic on here about D/s and their own Dominants or submissives, I do especially appreciate those who have given concrete examples to illustrate what they're saying.

Blaakmaan



The difficulty I had in giving you a concrete answer is that if almost anyone who wasn't Valyraen ordered me to do the things he does, be it picking up the bathroom or doing the laundry, it wouldn't make them dominant in my eyes. It would make them an asshole who thinks they can boss me around and therefore needs to be reminded that they don't own me.

I can tell you all the orders he gives me (from making me wear underwear to not letting me wear high heels unless I beg), but I don't think would help you dominate someone else. That's about as concrete as I can give you.

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RE: How Does a Dominant Dominate You??? What does he/s... - 11/16/2007 2:42:08 PM   
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Blaakmaan I personally don't think this question gets asked enough    kudos to you for putting it out there
 
To paraphrase someone from these boards, who wrote a longtime ago on a thread, the opposite of dominance is not submission and the opposite of submission is not dominance ... the opposite of dominance is indecision and the opposite of submission is stubborness ... when I first read those words, I kid you not, a light bulb appeared above my head and my whole world was illuminated ...I've since lost the light bulb but those words, succinctly put as there were, gave me, whats the word, permission, if you like to stand in my own power ... that, within my own ethics, moral compass and kinks ...I'm in charge and make no apologies for it ...  (if the author of this wee gem of info is out there, and I think you still are *waves* ya changed my life *smooch*).
 
One of the first things to consider, is deciding what kind of 'dominant' you wish to be ... for sure we can tick kink checklists until the cows come home ... but it's kind of hard to marry all those kinks and desires together without first understanding what about them rocks ya socks ... think of the control, the power charge, what is it that makes you want to have the experience of a submissive in your life ... what is it you want from those private exchanges? 
 
Midori, in her Fem Domination class I attended when she visited New Zealand last year, had us do an exercise where we wrote in one column, women we have admired throughout our lives and in the other column had us write their qualities, the things that made us admire them ... the males in our midst also did the same ... later she asked us all to fold our papers in half and to focus on the qualities column ... and there it was in black and white... the 'fem dom' I wanted to be ... and for the men?  the fem dom they wanted to serve ...
 
I guess you could apply the same exercise to yourself, men that you have admired, to give you somewhere to start fishing for who you are...and for the qualities you want in a submissive ...you could do the same exercise ... of women (personally, television or book characters, stereotypes, archetypes, etc) that have pushed your buttons ... 
 
Find out where the commonalities are and work from there ...
 
For example ... a female with a 1950's household kick may not necessarily be suited to you if your power figure is more about taming a shrew ... whereas the 1950's kick could be greatly suited to you if your power figure is charged with a quiet and unquestioned magnetism that allows for a natural tendency of subservience to exist  (if that makes sense).
 
As for the actual activity of dominating someone ...controlling them ... this was a post a made sometime ago about how I view and encompass my dominant self with submissives ...
 
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Be consistent... ie if you say "don't move" and they do pull them up on it, if you state they must in say a scene, always answer 'yes Madam Peanut Butterfly" everytime you ask them to do something (before they move to do it) and they don't, pull them up on it ... make them return to whatever position they were in, and issue the order again ... the biggest complaint I have had from submissives, both male and female, I have played with in the past is their past dominant/s inconsistency within their (the dominants) own rules and stipulations (for play or for the relationship) ... finding dismay when the dominant doesn't even notice the sub has just broken one of the rules of engagement ... it's leaves the sub feeling like the dominant doesn't care for their own dominance ... let alone the person's submission ...

On a personal level, give yourself permission to be a biarch.  Another one of those things I've often heard complaints about ... the dom struggling to shrug on their dominant coat and just be dominant ... if you want them to dance the funky chicken while wearing the national dress of Timbucktoo ...then do it ... if you want them to seperate the M&M colours using their nose and nothing else simply because you think they should... then do it ... (the M&M idea, found in a great post I can't now find grr) ... it's an ego thing ... give yourself permission to have an ego.  Don't buy into what society tells us, that to be egotisical, self centered, bossy, aggressive, demanding is a bad thing ... the most successful people in the world, in some way are ... and so is a successful dominant ... people aren't one dimensional... there is always the opposite to ego, self centeredness, aggression and demanding that exist within all of us ... temper your style with love, passion, and empathy ...you subs will love you all the more for it.


Sorry I haven't given any concrete examples ... I might offer up some later ... but as a quick insight ... I like to work with rituals ... ways of being addressed, how they must be attired when they are coming to see me, having them stop and buy a newspaper before visiting with me ... that must be stamped by the shop I have told them to purchase it from ... the reason being ... every day they may read the newspaper...it delivered to their work or home or one they read at the coffee shop ... will remind them of me ... but that having to buy the one paper at a particular shop for me ... is all about following my lead ... or having them write a hand written letter that must be posted through the mail to me once a week, regardless that they may see me on a daily basis ... it's the control I enjoy ...and I enjoy who they become within that control ..
 
I fear I may have rambled a bit here ... hope not ... ask for clarification if I have lol ..
 
Enjoy your journey




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RE: How Does a Dominant Dominate You??? What does he/s... - 11/16/2007 2:53:37 PM   
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Jasmyn,

Great post.  I completly agree; being the dominant (or submissive) that you want to be, requires identifying specific qualities that you respect in other dominant/submissive people, and concentrating on developing them.

Concrete examples for me....  Well, my last slave, I met at a party.  We talked and shared a beer for about an hour.  We were laughing and having fun.  I looked her in the eye, and I said 'kiss me.'  I did it with a lot of confidence; I could practically taste how submissive she was.  She said "what?"  I said "Kiss... me!"  She leaned in, and kissed me.  From the first time we spoke, I showed her I was confident, capable, and strong.  We went through a lot of struggles since then, but never was lack of dominance or submission one of them.  Early in the relationship, I was the one who made sure to set the dates, chose what we would do on those dates, and I was simply direct and confident with her.  I made it clear that I liked her, enjoyed her company, and took the time to get to know her.

I suppose that's a start for you.

Stephan


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RE: How Does a Dominant Dominate You??? What does he/s... - 11/16/2007 4:16:01 PM   
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When I met hubby and he pulled out a riding crop and winked at me, I KNEW I wanted to have some fun, but it was who he was and the several months of non-sexual getting to know each other time that made me KNOW this was a man who could tame me. In past relationships I found pathetic weak men who couldn't even master themselves, let alone a girl like me. They were either shiftless and forever stoned, only caring about their stupid band, guys who had no future plans, guys who were controlling and domineering because they were insecure...

When I met my hubby, he was a lean mean Marine, very much an Alpha Male and very much a Master of himself. He didn't need to strut around and act like a bad ass...he WAS a bad ass. I have seen weaker and lesser men try to belittle or insult him, and he will grin casually and totally blow it off, because he doesn't care what others think of him.

I love how he has taught me, and helped develop character traits in me that were greatly lacking. I used to be so prideful and never said I was sorry- I HAD to win every argument. One day, I asked him WHY he always let me "win" an argument. He said, "Because you can win an argument and still be wrong, and you can lose an argument and yet be right." Wow. I had to chew on that for a while, and I had to eat quite a bit of crow.

I love how he goes out there every day and earns a living so I can stay home with the kids. I love how he is always kind and gentle and loving to everyone he knows- I don't know anyone who doesn't adore him because he's so sweet...

Yet, a few years back, a friend of his took a "liberty" with me. He grabbed my butt while giving me a hug goodbye. I told him about it later that night. Oh boy. The next week he was playing hockey with the guy and he body checked him pretty hard, in fact the guy had to sit down and take a breather. Hubby sat next to the guy and simply said in a quiet friendly voice, "She's MINE."

Sometimes he'll grab me gently and growl in my ear..."MINE." I love that. Being his. And that's how he Dominates me.

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RE: How Does a Dominant Dominate You??? What does he/s... - 11/16/2007 5:25:15 PM   
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great posts ! smiles 

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RE: How Does a Dominant Dominate You??? What does he/s... - 11/16/2007 11:06:33 PM   
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To restate kind of what others had already, it isn't about specifics at all, it is about Him.  His presence over me, He doesn't even have to give an order, but He is my Master.  Now, in realizing what you are asking... i am sure you knew you would get a lot of answers like this...

However, to be specific like you asked... Master of course gives me orders, but that is simple, and kind of boring.  And, after awhile one just does them without being told.  What is more interesting is that  He commands my attention.  The best dominance i feel from Him, is when we are on the phone talking and i go off in tangents after Him asking a specific question.. and He says 'girl' and gets me right back on track. 

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RE: How Does a Dominant Dominate You??? What does he/s... - 11/17/2007 11:53:17 AM   
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There are about a zillion responses to that question.  Order you to strip, kneel, serve as furniture/toilet, submit to pain, humiliation, require you to follow rules/protocols/schedules, whip you, kick you, take your money, address book, place you in bondage, brand you, mark you.................

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