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RE: differences in genders - 11/19/2007 10:09:25 PM   
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I contemplated writing up a lengthy, soul-searching response to this... and then I remembered that I'd just gotten off eight hours of call center customer service. The well-thought-out response to this will come in time, but for the moment...

There are fuckers, both mind- and otherwise, on both sides of the dick, on both sides of the whip, inundating every crevice of every lifestyle. There are people who'll demand the world handed to them in a teacup, because they feel like they deserve it, or because they know that they're in high enough demand to be setting the terms.

Now, my question for you is, if you come back to take a look at this thread, what makes you any different from the women that you're bitching about? You mentioned women writing up lists of their kinks/limits, and yet your wistful plaint at the end of the post is essentially in the same vein as the profiles of the women you've mentioned.

We've all got limits - particularly the limitless. If you've got an issue with a particular person, or type of person, or group of people, no one's forcing you to respond to them or even to acknowledge that they exist. This is the world of the online - people can be the biggest fucks that they care to be, sitting safely behind a curtain of anonymity. If you're looking for a "kind, caring, sensible female dom", ignore all of the bitch goddesses and remain focused on what you want. If you're looking for a submissive, pass on by the people who've got every detail of their submission written out in an equation and contact the people that spark something in you.

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RE: differences in genders - 11/19/2007 10:09:26 PM   
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my problem is; why do women expect the doms to be all those things when they act like bitches themselves when they're dom-ing?


Talk about stereotyping! I never have "dommed" anyone... whatever.



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RE: differences in genders - 11/19/2007 10:15:16 PM   
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Hmmm...I don't remember saying that in my profile. So, since I know of at least ONE who doesn't do what you claim, your assumption is now proven to be false.

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RE: differences in genders - 11/19/2007 10:31:35 PM   
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It happens because people enable it.

Stop enabling it-and things will change-but don't hold your breath waiting-god forbid anyone control thier libido long enough.

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RE: differences in genders - 11/19/2007 10:50:04 PM   
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ORIGINAL: RRafe

It happens because people enable it.

Stop enabling it-and things will change-but don't hold your breath waiting-god forbid anyone control thier libido long enough.


You do realize that he has reduced the entire female population into submissives that top from the bottom or out and out bitches....



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RE: differences in genders - 11/19/2007 10:51:59 PM   
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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

quote:

ORIGINAL: RRafe

It happens because people enable it.

Stop enabling it-and things will change-but don't hold your breath waiting-god forbid anyone control thier libido long enough.


You do realize that he has reduced the entire female population into submissives that top from the bottom or out and out bitches....




What do you imagine would happen if MEN stopped wanting sex for a month-worldwide? And stuck to it?

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RE: differences in genders - 11/19/2007 10:54:49 PM   
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It would not impact my life whatsoever dude, as someone that has went years without sex or a relationship at a time, I am very much a self sufficient sort of person.

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RE: differences in genders - 11/19/2007 10:55:33 PM   
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It would not impact my life whatsoever dude, as someone that has went years without sex or a relationship at a time, I am very much a self sufficient sort of person.


I asked what you imagine would happen-not just to you.

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RE: differences in genders - 11/19/2007 11:00:30 PM   
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Perhaps the author of "How to Win Friends and Influence People" would like to read your post and use it as an example of what not to do. 

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RE: differences in genders - 11/19/2007 11:09:15 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: RRafe

quote:

ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

It would not impact my life whatsoever dude, as someone that has went years without sex or a relationship at a time, I am very much a self sufficient sort of person.


I asked what you imagine would happen-not just to you.


I do not know what would happen if men stopped desiring sex for just one month....

I suppose we lil womens would just cease to exist because we are dependent upon a hard cock to protect and defend us?

The above is a joke, but I really do not know what you believe would happen if men did quit wanting sex for a month?

I am a bit tired of gender based stereotyping... sure there are differences between men and women, but there is an incredible amount of individual variation, not all women are bossy bitches, not all dommes are into verbal humiliation. Not all submissives are demanding.. some female subs are doormats.. we see them post questions every damn day.

I think it speaks to the success of those in relationships on this board that they do not view the opposite sex as  the enemy... it kinda gets in the way of having a relationship with someone, doesn't it?

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RE: differences in genders - 11/19/2007 11:09:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: RRafe

quote:

ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

It would not impact my life whatsoever dude, as someone that has went years without sex or a relationship at a time, I am very much a self sufficient sort of person.


I asked what you imagine would happen-not just to you.




It's always about her. Lol.

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RE: differences in genders - 11/19/2007 11:10:31 PM   
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And who should it be about?

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RE: differences in genders - 11/19/2007 11:14:18 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

quote:

ORIGINAL: RRafe

quote:

ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

It would not impact my life whatsoever dude, as someone that has went years without sex or a relationship at a time, I am very much a self sufficient sort of person.


I asked what you imagine would happen-not just to you.


I do not know what would happen if men stopped desiring sex for just one month....

I suppose we lil womens would just cease to exist because we are dependent upon a hard cock to protect and defend us?

The above is a joke, but I really do not know what you believe would happen if men did quit wanting sex for a month?

I am a bit tired of gender based stereotyping... sure there are differences between men and women, but there is an incredible amount of individual variation, not all women are bossy bitches, not all dommes are into verbal humiliation. Not all submissives are demanding.. some female subs are doormats.. we see them post questions every damn day.

I think it speaks to the success of those in relationships on this board that they do not view the opposite sex as  the enemy... it kinda gets in the way of having a relationship with someone, doesn't it?


I think the point is about the "pussy power card" being played. Of course, not all women use this-and not all men are silly enough to put up with it. Just enough to notice it.

My advice? Men who dislike it should not view such women as the enemy-just not as potential lovers. Problem solved, and no reason to feel bitter. Works for me-I just don't bother.

But getting my dick wet was never my number one priority.

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RE: differences in genders - 11/19/2007 11:17:48 PM   
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In my relationship I have no "pussy power", but then again it is all about me like I said earlier...laughing here.

In this culture we have some power of the pussy, but that is not universally true, or should I say that power is seriously undermined by laws and cultural customs... just an observation that may not even add to the conversation

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RE: differences in genders - 11/19/2007 11:35:17 PM   
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Well....Hang out a bit longer, you may learn some things, gain some insight, and then realize how ignorant you were to ask these questions.
 
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RE: differences in genders - 11/20/2007 3:54:06 AM   
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Its want comes naturally with a market economy where most BDSM people, male and female are submissive and men hugely outnumber women.

It means male Doms seeking Female submissives, and vice versa, there is a rough equality and therefore a need to negotiate.

But for male submissives seeking a Dominant woman the odds are stacked very firmly against them.

That is why any woman can make a living as a Dominant, if she chooses.

But openings for male Dominants to make a living? Forget it.

Just adjust to reality and work with it, the world's not going to change to make things seem fair to you!

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RE: differences in genders - 11/20/2007 4:38:07 AM   
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man, you people seem to think having an opinion is worth flaming now. I personally dont think anything I said was wrong other than the fact that it sounded like I put stereotypes on everyone even though I havent met all of them. and I do remember pointing out that I was new here so I thought it was obvious that I'm just pointing my FIRST IMPRESSIONS.

I think my entire point was shown pretty well in your replies, some of you replied with fierce, bottled hate and some of you with understanding and guidance. where's the middleground? x.x I guess it's not really about genders now that I think about it. but my point still stands: if you're a switch like me then you're not getting the same offers from the male and the female sides!

...sounds like I struck a nerve on a lot of you.

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RE: differences in genders - 11/20/2007 4:40:36 AM   
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Well I understood your post heh, and to a degree I agree with you.As to where the middle ground is here? Erm if you find it please let me know lol. Anyway welcome to the boards.

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RE: differences in genders - 11/20/2007 5:01:53 AM   
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man, you people seem to think having an opinion is worth flaming now. I personally dont think anything I said was wrong other than the fact that it sounded like I put stereotypes on everyone even though I havent met all of them. and I do remember pointing out that I was new here so I thought it was obvious that I'm just pointing my FIRST IMPRESSIONS.

I think my entire point was shown pretty well in your replies, some of you replied with fierce, bottled hate and some of you with understanding and guidance. where's the middleground? x.x I guess it's not really about genders now that I think about it. but my point still stands: if you're a switch like me then you're not getting the same offers from the male and the female sides!

...sounds like I struck a nerve on a lot of you.




I think you overestimated the emotional impact of your post. I do not hate you. I wish you well in your search, and I understand how frustrating it must be as a male submissive... we hear them rant about the unfairness of it all quite often.


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RE: differences in genders - 11/20/2007 5:19:43 AM   
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Master and I both agree the kid ate too many twinkies before posting this.

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