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Submissive beat me. - 11/22/2007 8:36:27 PM   
BlackSakura


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Status: offline 		Serious question.
What would you do if your submissive beat the shit out you? (Including blows to the head.)

Don't bother posting smartass remarks.


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RE: Submissive beat me. - 11/22/2007 8:38:28 PM   
slavekal


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Status: offline 		What????  Are you talking a real life physical assault and battery?  I would think any sane woman would, at the very least, terminate the relationship.  Most would likely press charges.

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RE: Submissive beat me. - 11/22/2007 8:39:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		Call the police, get his/her arse hauled out of my house and a restraining order would be on the list.

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RE: Submissive beat me. - 11/22/2007 9:02:16 PM   
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RE: Submissive beat me. - 11/22/2007 9:11:38 PM   
azropedntied


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Status: offline 		I would have to know the whole story , if someone assaulted you unprovoked  dial 911 and have the police handle it .A scene gone bad with disrespect  the other person is dismissed .A domestic exchange ?both exchange blows ?are there any other factors?Is this an outta the blue  blows to your person type thing ?At any rate if your submissive beat you sounds like said person is no longer submissive or honorable and respectful ,at the very least that person is gone with out  know all the details .If the beating was bad enough  to require a dr's visit  said attacker should also pay damages .
hope your ok .

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RE: Submissive beat me. - 11/22/2007 9:21:39 PM   
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I would have to know the whole story , if someone assaulted you unprovoked  dial 911 and have the police handle it .A scene gone bad with disrespect  the other person is dismissed .A domestic exchange ?both exchange blows ?are there any other factors?Is this an outta the blue  blows to your person type thing ?At any rate if your submissive beat you sounds like said person is no longer submissive or honorable and respectful ,at the very least that person is gone with out  know all the details .If the beating was bad enough  to require a dr's visit  said attacker should also pay damages .
hope your ok .



Yes, I agree. I would like to hear what led up to the beating...


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RE: Submissive beat me. - 11/22/2007 9:22:52 PM   
slaveboyforyou


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Status: offline 		Are you afraid to call the police because you are transgendered?  I know police in a lot of areas of the country tend to laugh things like this off when it involves transgenderend people.  I am not saying it's right; I just know that it happens.  If you did call the police and that is what happened, you need to contact your local police chief or sherrif and the prosecuting attorney.  If you didn't contact the police and some time has passed, they probably won't and can't do anything about it.  Don't have anything to do with this guy, and if it happens again contact the police.  If anything, the incident is recorded in case you need to get a restraining order later on. 

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RE: Submissive beat me. - 11/22/2007 9:24:50 PM   
ShaktiSama


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Status: offline 		Yikes.  I would cut off all contact permanently, file charges and a restraining order if he ever made any further attempt to contact me, and probably give myself some time off from men in general and DS in particular for a good long time. 

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RE: Submissive beat me. - 11/22/2007 9:50:27 PM   
MsIncontrol


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Status: offline 		I am sorry if that happened to you.  I would first call the police, then my lawyer.  Of course he would be dismissed and all contact would end immediately also.

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RE: Submissive beat me. - 11/22/2007 10:30:27 PM   
RumpusParable


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quote:

ORIGINAL: BlackSakura

Serious question.
What would you do if your submissive beat the shit out you? (Including blows to the head.)

Don't bother posting smartass remarks.



I'm assuming you mean a real beating and not consentual.

I'd go to the hospital and get a record of bruises and any other damage and contact the police from there to have them arrested  if possible and, if they were living with me, remove all their items from my home that night.

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RE: Submissive beat me. - 11/22/2007 11:07:00 PM   
MzticStormz


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Status: offline 		If this was non-consentual it is abuse.  terminate all contact.. at the very least.  Personally I would file charges.

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RE: Submissive beat me. - 11/23/2007 12:14:02 AM   
BlackSakura


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Status: offline 		No, it was not consentual.  The problem has been rectified and dealt with.


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RE: Submissive beat me. - 11/23/2007 5:24:35 AM   
LadyEllen


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Status: offline 		Violence against trans women is sadly par for the course - as is violence against genetic women too.

It usually seems to be associated in my experience, with anger and resentment against women in general, and I suspect its tied in with the independent nature of women as people, contrasted with the sexual nature of women as objects, in the basic male mind. It is in the resolution of these two competing impressions that a man becomes worth having as an ordinary everyday partner - but that resolution can be different depending on the underlying experiences and psychology of the man in question. Where the "object" becomes predominant in the resolution, one finds the dominant male end of the spectrum, where the "people" becomes predominant one finds the submissive male end; in both cases, the predominance of one aspect is not at the total expense of the other, but a satisfactory balance is achieved.

But that resolution of conflict can sometimes never be achieved, and the two aspects will compete with one another in the male psyche throughout a lifetime, with one or the other coming to totally supersede the other from time to time. At one time the man is able to recognise that women are people and not subject to his desires, at another he see the reverse that women are the objects of his desire and subject to his will. This conflict can cause him to be the sweetest wooer, and the most violent controller in the space of hours. He is out of control, but he also realises his fault quickly when sense returns and feels immense guilt at what he has done.

With trans women the whole thing can be brought to a head quickly - and without guilt. For the purposes of this situation, she represents woman to him in both aspects, but in his deepest mind he knows she is not. He can use her to satisfy his desires but always retain a distance from her, and he can beat her without remorse, for she is he in his mind, and she will do just as well as a representative of woman for that purpose as for satisfying his desires.

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RE: Submissive beat me. - 11/23/2007 5:59:39 AM   
AFlyInYourWeb


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quote:

ORIGINAL: BlackSakura

Serious question.
What would you do if your submissive beat the shit out you? (Including blows to the head.)



You should seriously consider calling the police.  Although you might find it to be a hassle to deal with the police, your best future protection lies in getting this incident on the record.  It also is the best chance that this individual will learn to deal with their anger and frustrations in a less violent manner.  That might not help you, but it may help his next partner.

Good luck regardless of what you decide to do.

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RE: Submissive beat me. - 11/23/2007 7:08:39 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BlackSakura

Serious question.
What would you do if your submissive beat the shit out you? (Including blows to the head.)

Don't bother posting smartass remarks.



The only way to stop abuse and violence is to do two things.

First: Get out of that relationship.

Second: Report it to the authority and press charges.

I strongly believe that the reason that people commit violence of any kind is because they know the chances of them being punished by the authorities is low. Our society places lot of blame on the survivor of violence and this shame deters survivors from pressing charges. If he or she is not caught, he or she will continue to hurt you or move onto a new target.

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RE: Submissive beat me. - 11/23/2007 9:19:24 AM   
LadyPact


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Status: offline 		My knee jerk reaction would be not only immediate dismissal, but involving the police as well.  If that sounds like a joke, it's not.
 
I'm the first to tell you that I beat people for fun.  However, it is all consentual.  I am completely opposed to anyone striking another who didn't agree to it.  All of My bottoms know this as a rule.  They break it, they're done.

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RE: Submissive beat me. - 11/23/2007 9:47:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		As you say it was not consensual, I do not see how he could call himself submissive, by anybodies understanding of the term.

If this did happened to you, I send you my sincerest sympathies, and hope the situation is resolved as painlessly as possible. I hope it was reported to the proper authorities, as whether you press charges or not, he will most likely do this to someone else, and it will show on his record, and show a history of violence.

As for what I would do. He would be gone. I would press charges, and take them as far as they could go. Such acts cannot be allowed to go without repercussion, not only for a sense of justice, but the more he ‘gets away’ with it, the more it chips at his inhibitions, and the more likely it is he will do it again.

He would, not, under any circumstances be allowed to come back through my door. An act of non consensual violence sets an example that is irreversible, regardless of apologies or humility.

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RE: Submissive beat me. - 11/23/2007 10:06:55 AM   
BlackSakura


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Status: offline 		Yes, this person is diff gone and will not be returning.

Physically I am fine.  In a sense I guess it is my... pride?  that is hurt.  The incedent was a total loss of power for me and I feel so many bad feelings/emotions right.  But I will recover and stand once again. ^_^


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RE: Submissive beat me. - 11/23/2007 1:46:51 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BlackSakura

Serious question.
What would you do if your submissive beat the shit out you? (Including blows to the head.)

Don't bother posting smartass remarks.

   I need to know what provoked the submissive into this rage before responding, share more information!

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RE: Submissive beat me. - 11/23/2007 1:53:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BlackSakura

No, it was not consentual.  The problem has been rectified and dealt with.



I take it that you have what you need from your submissive to make a clear enough ruling on this matter? 

The "shock and awe" of a situation has gotten us all at one time or another.  I strive to always be ready to enforce the preemptive strike on their asses!

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