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EPGAH -> RE: Man on a mission or a**hole with an excuse? (11/23/2007 2:13:56 PM)
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ORIGINAL: GoddessDustyGold
I am going to disagree with this. I know you are rabid on this subject, but they are still human beings, albeit, in many instances, quite misguided. The minimal food and some water is available and offered when it seems obvious that it is needed. Some don't go any farther and return, rather than knowing they have been spotted and will be reported. Perhaps they will try again on another day...perhaps not. *shrug*
I disagree that the solution is to kill by refusing water. Ihe solution is to enforce the lws currently on the books...i.e. immediate deportation of those who enter illegally, and severe fines and other consequences for those who offer shelter (as a landlord) or jobs (as an off the books employer). If there is little opportunity to better themselves by entering this country illegally, that will stem the flow of illegal border crossing much more quickly. We no longer become the land of opportunity for everyone who is discontented with their own country's lack of opportunity. Our opportunity must be reserved for the citizens and the legal aliens who have followed the rules.
Please keep in mind that I refer to desolate border stretches. Sometimes they are fairly close to ranches and those ranches have been robbed and there have even been some killings because the people are desperate for food and water. Or their just skanky people who have jo conscience and they are just doing what comes naturally and they will continue to do the same when they hjit the big towns. Call Me a cynic if you want.
It does not do any good to point out that they are aiding and abetting by making sure that there is a water bottle or some peanut butter crackers. There is a group here that wants to support the usage of unmanned watering and sustenance areas (kind of like a rest stop for illegals) for illegal crossers. I do not sanction that. But the desert is harsh and there is no need for children to be subjected to those horrors just because their parents made an unwise decision. And it is just as unwise to deliberately kill the parents, for then we are left with the responsibility of the children.
Sorry, but living in Az, I am too up close and personal on this issue. I am opposed to illegal immigration. I am also opposed to delilberately allowing people to thirst to death in the desert to prove a point. I would rather have them arrive here and then find that they cannot rent an apartment or find work. That is much more effective, in My opinion. But that is not happening, is it?
True, but if you "catch" them enough to give them food and water, however minimal, you could also lace it with some sort of tranquilizer and have them taken back unconscious...(And hopefully some kind of contraceptive could also be added)
If you believe they are human, they need to face the consequences of crossing illegally, since that is a CHOICE...If they are simply animals, shrug, turn your back, and let Darwin's Will be done...
I myself, notice that they attack and rob Americans, sometimes just raiding, stealing what they want and retreating back into Mexico, who will protect them, and other times, doing a long-con, taking money from America and siphoning it into Mexico. (Not to mention their more subtle larcenies of our welfare, educational, medical, and prison systems) Yet no matter how much they steal, it makes no improvement in Mexico and does NOT diminish the number of invaders...indeed, some might even say they increased (Including the illegals themselves, when they "show their strength" in our streets!) Because of that, they are either sociopathic as a "class", or just feral humanoids--dangerous animals that need to be treated--well, like dangerous animals!
As to their children, I sincerely doubt any American FORCED them to have children, so the children are THEIR responsibility, not America's! And yes, I know about their hijacking of the 14th Amendment, and their use of their children as anchors and/or sympathy props when caught, "But you're breaking up our family!"...Again, choice is theirs, punishment should be equal, not lessened simply because they "can't keep it in their pants", I think the cliche is?
Corporations from DELL to Zenith have factories in Mexico, so they need not invade America for a job! How many jobs must we outsource to prevent them from showing up here?
The, "For a better life" excuse is specious, since a bank-robber or drug-dealer could justify their crimes that same way...And I just covered why the, "For the sake of the children" excuse is invalid.
Moreover, once here, they treat it as their "right" to corrupt and destroy our neighborhoods, burden our schools with children that don't have any intention of learning, bring drugs, disease, and violence to our lands.
If you believe America is inherently a better nation, then we owe it to ourselves to keep the bad ones out...If you say that America already has criminals, I agree, therefore we don't need more. Furthermore, if Mexico's rejects can no longer escape into America, then Mexico will be FORCED to make the necessary reforms to make life "bearable" for them down there...After all, America--despite being the ones invaded by their rejects--CANNOT force them to shape up; that would be imperialist![;)]
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