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MrSpectacular -> RE: Getting naked (11/27/2007 6:56:25 PM)

Naked on the first meeting or cam - A little too quick don't you think




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Getting naked (11/27/2007 8:09:24 PM)

Naked in person depends on the person.  Since I'm naked about half the time I'm at any naked friendly party, a lot of people I meet see me naked from the first handshake.  If I was meeting someone AS a submissive to them for a private date, it could be exciting or anxious or fun.  If we're just fucking, then it's just more comfortable. 

Naked on cam- well I don't own a cam, but if I did and wanted to cam with someone, it would be a friend and someone I felt comfortable with.

Why do people think just because we're dom/sub types that we throw out all social graces and progress?




Bloodrose88 -> RE: Getting naked (11/27/2007 8:13:09 PM)

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ORIGINAL: sweetsubPa

I am not talking about getting naked on cam for random people. I'm referring to 2 people that are talking and moving towards a Dom/sub relationship. I just wondered if anyone found it to be a deal breaker to say no. I don't think it should be. But I'm not a Dom either..lol. Also shouldn't limits be respected? I mean, at least until a well established relationship is in place. I do not think that my submission should be questioned because I have some limits.

It depends on if it is a limit, or a boundary.  I personally do not feel that it should be a deal breaker if a submissive refuses to get naked on cam, but eventually, you will have to.  It could, however, be seen as a test of willingness, especially if your potential Dominant knows you have issues with it.  It all depends on the couple, I would imagine.




Einzelganger -> RE: Getting naked (11/27/2007 8:20:36 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: AnimusRex

Given that many men consider it appropriate to submit a photo of their penis in their initial email, I would steer this question more towards the women, submissive women in particular; Men being the rutting beasts that we are, will get naked at the slightest breeze.


Not all of us.

-Einzelgänger




chellekitty -> RE: Getting naked (11/27/2007 8:27:16 PM)

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Naked in person depends on the person. Since I'm naked about half the time I'm at any naked friendly party, a lot of people I meet see me naked from the first handshake.


same here...and as for one on one meets...depends on how they go...i don't "date" without sex...but i don't "date" people i don't know...if that makes any sense...i get to know a person and if we hit it off, we'll take it to a one on one private setting and we'll have sex on the first "date" or there's not a next date...and i don't do clothes on sex...unless we're in public...but thats usually saved for later on...

as for the webcam, if i feel like it and they ask appropriately, i will show...there is no one anyone can show pictures to that will get me in a tizzy...

chelle




Maya2001 -> RE: Getting naked (11/27/2007 11:21:16 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: sweetsubPa

I am not talking about getting naked on cam for random people. I'm referring to 2 people that are talking and moving towards a Dom/sub relationship. I just wondered if anyone found it to be a deal breaker to say no. I don't think it should be. But I'm not a Dom either..lol. Also shouldn't limits be respected? I mean, at least until a well established relationship is in place. I do not think that my submission should be questioned because I have some limits.


If they told you to jump off a bridge , would you??

Not everyone respects limits,  do you want to be with someone that does not?  It is not a matter of whether they are questioning your submission but whether you are willing to be a doormat to someone that does not respect you.

If you do not wish to be used /disrespected and treated like a doormat say no and good bye and wait for someone that will respect you, you do not have to settle for the first people that take interest in you and do their bidding , they do not own you ... you are not their property




MaamJay -> RE: Getting naked (11/28/2007 12:13:00 AM)

Quick hijack ... Oh hon, so happy for you! Have a wonderful (nakie!) time! And remember He loves you ... the present is inside the wrapping you know [;)]
Bigggg huggssss
Maam Jay aka violet[A]




MaamJay -> RE: Getting naked (11/28/2007 12:46:11 AM)

OK now to the thread ... there are too many variables here for a blanket answer. As many have said, it's different at a play party where naked or semi-naked can be the accepted "dress code" for subbies! I also do the first meeting in public such as a coffee shop or restaurant, and frown on those who dress in too revealing a fashion for such an occasion. So generally, no nakedness on first meeting, and I am not at all interested in watching naked subs on cam! Boring!

However, the first play session is different. As a Domme, I do like My subs to strip ... for the following reasons:
(a) It removes barriers
(b) I get to see how naturally tidy they are and I can issue the first commands directing what they should do with their discarded clothing, this gets the control aspect of the session going
(c) I get to check if they have been obedient to My rule of no boxer shorts (other forms of underwear may be permissible) ... I always keep a large pair of scissors in the Dungeon and I HAVE used them!
(d) For many male subs, it is the first stage of their switch ON to feeling subby (and to getting aroused and hard if they are male)
(e) I do inspect them ... NOT to humiliate them, but to acquaint Myself with them medically and to check out things I should know before I begin to play with them. As I consider (and touch) each part, I ask about its history ... have they ever broken bones, dislocated joints, have heart conditions etc etc ... and I examine the skin closely. I get a feel for how much fat padding there is. I look for existing bruises, swollen veins, broken capillaries, skin lesions and tags, pimples. All this is essential information before I start spanking or flogging them, engaging in hot wax play etc etc. (OK I confess, I also love zapping pimples LOL ... Master and i do bdsm pimples on a daily basis!)
(f) The touches which vary from soft and tingly to raking My nails over them to see how their skin responds, combined with My cool questioning, yet obviously caring questions, My close examination and My remaining fully dressed while they are naked all combines into a delicious mindfuck for them which gets them nicely prepared for what comes next
(g) Gives Me a chance to challenge negative views they may hold about their body image (and modern men are getting right up there with women in having "bits" that they worry about!) and to affirm that they are, as My submissive, beautiful to Me
(h) Reinforces the authority difference between U/us ... much like the boss remaining seated while the employee stands ... it's a body language thing. Naked = vulnerable which is part of the mindset of the submissive rather than the Dominant.  

It HAS been My experience that males are generally less reluctant to get their gear off than are females ... I have had several males BEG Me to watch them get naked on cam, whereas a girl has NEVER said that LOL! ... but it is challenging to some males too. I find it to be a very worthwhile approach though. It's certainly not a matter of ogling and staring lewdly as one poster stated ... well, I see so few "classically beautiful" bodies in Dungeons, what is there to ogle at? And I am not about to "lead by example" on this one ... would set up entirely the wrong platform. However, once I am at a point where I want to be more intimate with a sub (not necessarily meaning sex, could be something like wanting to give a golden shower), and on a few rare occasions, this has occurred within the first long play session, I have been willing to remove some/all of My clothing as appropriate. But I do pre-warn subs that they will be required to be naked first off and to not expect to see Me likewise! Some might see that as a positive LOL ... that corset holds a lot in [:D]

Maam Jay aka violet[A]




camille65 -> RE: Getting naked (11/28/2007 1:55:31 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MaamJay

Quick hijack ... Oh hon, so happy for you! Have a wonderful (nakie!) time! And remember He loves you ... the present is inside the wrapping you know [;)]
Bigggg huggssss
Maam Jay aka violet[A]
 Hijack back atchya! Thanks thanks MJ, wow huh? Heh. I am trying to remember that but it isn't easy when I look in the mirror and see myself through my eyes not his. That will ease once he has me do the usual get undressed within minutes thing. This man has more patience than most 10 men put together. 8 years as of this winter!!![:D][:D][:D]Hugs to you, sweet lady. 




angelslave77 -> RE: Getting naked (11/28/2007 3:23:39 AM)

I loves to be nakie, stretch marks, mummy tummy and all simply because I am who I am, I am comfortable with me (It has taken me a loooong time to reach this point) . So nakie on first meeting no probs, nakie on cam no problem (although I will only cam for Sir now).

and Maamjay wanna watch me strip on cam lmao, so you cant say a female hasnt asked [;)](I am feeling kinda cheeky right now)




Master96 -> RE: Getting naked (11/28/2007 6:20:54 AM)

I don't want to hijack this thread. But I don't think it would be a problem for the sub boys... lol




hermione83 -> RE: Getting naked (11/28/2007 6:39:21 AM)

Never! If I'm married 20 years I'll stick lock the bathroom door when I shower, lol. We can do eet in a dark cave!




CreativeDominant -> RE: Getting naked (11/28/2007 8:05:19 AM)

I've been with submissives who were naked on the first meeting with me.  But I had spent a great deal of time conversing with those submissives and the face to face was mainly to see if we clicked in person before dominance/submission took place.  The naked submissive and the clothed dominant is a great way to establish one brick of the dynamic in terms of place within the dynamic.




junecleaver -> RE: Getting naked (11/28/2007 8:42:44 AM)

I feel that every situation is different, but it's very possible to be in a situation where it's very enjoyable.  I've done it several times and never regretted it.






NinjaProphet -> RE: Getting naked (11/28/2007 9:33:04 AM)

One of the first things I got honest about with myself was the fact that I was a nudist. I seem to have benn born without the "shame about my body" bone. So, getting naked at the beach, at a frined's house, on cam, or on a first date is no big deal for me........




hardbodysub -> RE: Getting naked (11/28/2007 9:38:43 AM)

I agree with previous replies that most first meetings should be in public places, but under the right circumstances, I'd be willing to go somewhere private and and to get naked. The issue isn't the nakedness, but whether there's enough trust established to go somewhere private on the first real meeting.

I'm more reserved about going naked on webcam. Kind of nervous about who's really on the other end watching, so I have to be pretty comfortable with the other person, and feeling assured that they're for real and discreet about it.




CuriouslyKat -> RE: Getting naked (11/28/2007 12:47:50 PM)

*fast reply*

I got naked on the first go with my Master. Well, I was clothed at first and then he had me take everything off..it was very sexy and comfortable. If I had not been comfortable with him I would have never done it.




Petronius -> RE: Getting naked (11/28/2007 12:58:02 PM)

Ain't my thing; I can understand how it might be others. And I can see how people claiming to be slaves but who top from the bottom could get all atwitter about it.




PhoenixRed -> RE: Getting naked (11/28/2007 1:05:57 PM)

I agree with just about everything MaamJay said and described.  Sounds like we both use the samy playbook (if there were such a thing, of course)! lol 




RumpusParable -> RE: Getting naked (11/28/2007 1:15:58 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: sweetsubPa

I have a question for both Doms and subs. How do you feel about having to get naked on the first meeting? Not necessarily for sex, but just to have to be naked, (for inspecption, humiliation)? Also, how do you feel about getting naked on cam for someone that you haven't known long?


Totally situational.  I'm not exactly, ahem, shy physically but I certainly don't always feel comfortable with a certain person that fast.  Same with submissives, I'm not one that is shy about others' bodies but I'm not always wanting to see them.

But, yes, I'd be one to inspect them nude on the first meeting if it felt right and natural. Or to allow them to see me.

It just depends on how they act, how we each feel, and so on.  -Like just about everything!

I do for the majority of the time keep myself well covered around subs, though, as it's an expression of my place in our relationship, even long into knowing them...  Clothing acts as a social barrier.

Note, I'm writing this nude at the moment.. How many others have answered this naked in front of the computer, too? lol.




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