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RE: Spotting a fake... - 8/13/2005 6:36:56 PM   
Fidelity


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Status: offline 		Another word for offering a service one neither supports or cares about is 'fraud". I hope that your terms of service make your attitude towards it VERY clear dude.

Taking people's money in exchange for something is not a LARK-we call it BUSINESS. And you damned well BETTER care,or quit.

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RE: Spotting a fake... - 8/13/2005 7:00:36 PM   
Gauge


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I sure hope the people you 'service' know how committed you are to it. Or, I guess it's just not that big of a deal to you -- so hey, what's a couple of questionable driver's licenses sent in as "ID", what's a few supicious looking characters showing up at a dungeon to be "verified" -- hell, it's all good. Verify away -- after all, Taggard just did it as a lark. Maybe if you sign up on the site when he actually cares, you will get your $10 worth. Otherwise, oh well.



I would not wish this on the man or his business or anyone for that matter but the "verification" will come to an abrupt end if someone gets hurt or killed and used this service. Sadly we live in a litigious society and someone will sue him regardless of how many disclaimers are there.

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RE: Spotting a fake... - 8/13/2005 7:21:55 PM   
Fidelity


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The law does not allow one to sign away rights without proper legal agreements.

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RE: Spotting a fake... - 8/13/2005 7:50:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster
I'm a little confused. Isn't this verification site YOUR site? If it's not your job to explain what it is, whose job is that?


Just consider it art... It provokes and inspires...it certainly isn't the artist's job to explain it.

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RE: Spotting a fake... - 8/13/2005 7:53:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: AAkasha
Great service. I hope you aren't as flakey with your own partners.


Read my sig...it fits you soooo perfectly.

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RE: Spotting a fake... - 8/13/2005 8:22:31 PM   
Lordandmaster


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Status: offline 		That's a good line for the judge when your docket gets called. It's your life, but I agree with the other people who have said that your attitude about your site is pretty reckless.

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ORIGINAL: TallDarkAndWitty

Just consider it art... It provokes and inspires...it certainly isn't the artist's job to explain it.


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RE: Spotting a fake... - 8/13/2005 8:25:27 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

That's a good line for the judge when your docket gets called. It's your life, but I agree with the other people who have said that your attitude about your site is pretty reckless.


Dude, what do you honestly know about my site or how I run it? Might you be talking about things you simply have (a) no knowledge of and (b) no business in?

Unless you know of someone who has been charged anything and is unhappy with the service provided, I suggest you stick to things you know about.

Taggard

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RE: Spotting a fake... - 8/13/2005 8:32:01 PM   
Fidelity


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RE: Spotting a fake... - 8/13/2005 8:33:18 PM   
Lordandmaster


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If you don't get what it is, then it really isn't my job to explain it to you.


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I don't do squat for it now (other then post the URL in my sig)


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I am just too lazy (right now) to do anything about it.


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I think you have me confused with someone who actually cares what most people think...


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You see, VerifiedBDSM was a lark for me. I threw it together, had some fun, got bored.


You really don't think it would be more responsible, having made your attitude about your own site so unambiguous, just to take it down? Then you can revive it when you start to care again.

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RE: Spotting a fake... - 8/13/2005 8:36:57 PM   
TallDarkAndWitty


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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster
You really don't think it would be more responsible, having made your attitude about your own site so unambiguous, just to take it down? Then you can revive it when you start to care again.


But why do I need to do that? It is, except for the free stuff, quite inactive. The free stuff is what it is and nothing more.

I love the conversation it creates...but I am an admitted attention whore.

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RE: Spotting a fake... - 8/13/2005 8:40:12 PM   
TallDarkAndWitty


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ORIGINAL: Fidelity

Drops it,and guesses that everyone else will as well,if you ever decide to start this up again.


Check the thread, I didn't bring it up to begin with.

People have the most fascinating reaction to VerifiedBDSM.

Some really get behind it, like I did at first. Some think it is just a few steps better (or worse) then Nazism (yes, I am Godwin'ing my own thread (though I think that might invalidate the Godwin)).

Really quite fascinating, and well worth the crap I take for it.

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RE: Spotting a fake... - 8/13/2005 8:45:19 PM   
Lordandmaster


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Status: offline 		Well, personally I find it immature, and potentially very destructive, when people do things (especially on the internet) just to elicit a reaction.

Take a look at this profile, for example (from bondage.com):

http://bondage.com/u/1441985/user.html

If you can believe some of the things that person has written in the bondage.com forums, he decided to use the Nazi flag as his avatar in order to study the reactions that it would cause--not, of course, because he is a Nazi himself.

I don't know whether to believe him, and frankly don't care very much (although the moderators' response, when I complained about his avatar, is why I am no longer on bondage.com)--but if he is telling the truth, wouldn't you agree that that person is being a jackass?

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RE: Spotting a fake... - 8/13/2005 8:51:22 PM   
AAkasha


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ORIGINAL: TallDarkAndWitty

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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

That's a good line for the judge when your docket gets called. It's your life, but I agree with the other people who have said that your attitude about your site is pretty reckless.


Dude, what do you honestly know about my site or how I run it? Might you be talking about things you simply have (a) no knowledge of and (b) no business in?

Unless you know of someone who has been charged anything and is unhappy with the service provided, I suggest you stick to things you know about.

Taggard


I have asked about these things and you blow it off and give non-answers, then say it's a lark thing and you don't care.

Now you are defending it. You passionately say you don't care, now look like you care a lot.

The fact that you basically confess you just like the attention (regardless of whether it is negative, or people pointing out there may be some legal or moral issues at stake, you still don't care -- attention is attention) -- that sort of sums up your motivation. You like the attention -- who cares if you can't support your views about it, or are taking money from people even though it's something half-assed.

Apparently you like/need the attention pretty badly if you do it in spite of misleading people, taking their money or damaging your own reputation.

Akasha



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RE: Spotting a fake... - 8/13/2005 8:53:56 PM   
AAkasha


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ORIGINAL: TallDarkAndWitty

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ORIGINAL: AAkasha
Great service. I hope you aren't as flakey with your own partners.


Read my sig...it fits you soooo perfectly.

Taggard


It was an honest observation, not an insult. I didn't just say something to be rude. I was seriously wondering how you apply your attitude to personal relationships. It's becoming more clear to me now. But -- you like the attention. You must be having a great time tonight.

Akasha

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RE: Spotting a fake... - 8/13/2005 8:57:04 PM   
TallDarkAndWitty


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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

Well, personally I find it immature, and potentially very destructive, when people do things (especially on the internet) just to elicit a reaction.


It isn't that I did it to elicit a reaction. I did it for very noble reasons and found it was just way more work than I actually wanted to put into it. If I ever find a web-saavy slave, I might indeed turn it over to him/her. The responses I get, and the fact that people continue to sign up for the free stuff, has really convinced me that the site could indeed be a success, but I have other things in my life now.

I don't remove the link in my sig, or take the site down, because I like the reaction it evokes in people. Quite honestly, it serves as a kind of litmus test. When I think about the people who most strongly object to it, I find they are the people with whom I have the least in common.

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I don't know whether to believe him, and frankly don't care very much (although the moderators' response, when I complained about his avatar, is why I am no longer on bondage.com)--but if he is telling the truth, wouldn't you agree that that person is being a jackass?


No, I wouldn't. I couldn't even sum up the brain cells to make that kind of judgment on the guy. He is being what he is...which is someone I simply wouldn't waste any time on, much less react with any kind of vitriol.

I just never get why people react so strongly to the activities of a stranger on some message board. I mean, unless I am interested in slapping a collar on you (or you have really piqued my interest like a Topcat, a MercAndBeth or an AngryLibrarian) I am not going to check out your profile, much less follow some link to some site you run.

If you don't like it, don't click it. If you feel you must express your opinion, don't be surprised if I just don't care what you think.

Taggard

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RE: Spotting a fake... - 8/13/2005 9:00:24 PM   
Fidelity


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Status: offline 		I was wondering about that too,Akasha..he's caught flack over his lacksadiasical attutude towards D/s as well.

More and more, this looks like a bad case of teenage angst.

Way past the age that most outgrow it.

How old did you say you were Taggard?

(And no,you cannot just do "anything you feel like" with people,and not suffer consequences for it)

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RE: Spotting a fake... - 8/13/2005 9:05:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		Then you might have ORIGINALLY created the site in good faith, but NOW you leave the link on your profile only because you want to see what kind of reaction it will engender, not because you still support your own site in good faith.

It's false advertising. Bad faith. It's a kind of dishonesty.

Again, it's your life, and I'm not issuing moral condemnation, but you might want to try to understand why people dislike what you're doing. It seems to gratify you to think of people as predictable little automatons. Enjoy it.

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RE: Spotting a fake... - 8/13/2005 9:06:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Fidelity

I was wondering about that too,Akasha..he's caught flack over his lacksadiasical attutude towards D/s as well.

More and more, this looks like a bad case of teenage angst.

Way past the age that most outgrow it.

How old did you say you were Taggard?

(And no,you cannot just do "anything you feel like" with people,and not suffer consequences for it)



It appears that whenever he starts to take heat, his canned response was "I meant to do that. I do it for the reaction. I did it on purpose to illicit response."

Sounds like he has some "control" issues -- maybe it's a dom thing. But when it looks like he'd rather say "oh I am in control of this negative attention, in fact, I wanted to cause it" then "maybe I am wrong, maybe I did something inappropriate, maybe I didn't see things in another light..."

All of a sudden it's not about the issue -- it's about the attention he *purposely* wanted to draw. Nice deflect. In PR they call that "bridging" -- "To move away from controversial, uncomfortable or unflattering topics."

Akasha

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RE: Spotting a fake... - 8/13/2005 9:09:50 PM   
TallDarkAndWitty


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ORIGINAL: AAkasha

It was an honest observation, not an insult.


Sorry, but using the word flakey is indeed insulting. Not that I mind...as my sig clearly indicates...I think it is quite complimentary.

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I didn't just say something to be rude. I was seriously wondering how you apply your attitude to personal relationships.


And as I have stated repeatedly, I feel little need to explain myself to you. Whatever you infer from my posts leads to a very ill-informed opinion of who and what I am, so your insults come off as quite comical to me.


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But -- you like the attention. You must be having a great time tonight.


Why else would I be here if I wasn't having fun???

I find discussing me and my life to be utterly fascinating. You must as well, or why would we still be discussing me. *smile*

Taggard

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RE: Spotting a fake... - 8/13/2005 9:11:07 PM   
Fidelity


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Status: offline 		Ever see a cat fall flat on it's face?

It picks itself up,tries to look classy,and then saunters off "Im meant to do that!"

Of course,it flattens it's ears, and lashes it's tail, when you start howling with laughter over it's obvious mistake..

The only creature in the room it's fooling, is itself.

The laugh is on you,kitty!

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