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RE: Spotting a fake... - 8/13/2005 9:11:21 PM   
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Double Godwin!!! This has to kill it now, doesn't it?

Nope.

1. This isn't usenet.
2. The first time—you were correct that you can't intentionally invoke Godwin.
3. The second time—no comparison was made, so Godwin wouldn't be in effect even if this was usenet.

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RE: Spotting a fake... - 8/13/2005 9:13:12 PM   
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What is Godwin?

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RE: Spotting a fake... - 8/13/2005 9:13:14 PM   
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I was wondering about that too,Akasha..he's caught flack over his lacksadiasical attutude towards D/s as well.


I have? I seem to catch much more flack over my very formal approach and my kink for forms, paperwork, rituals and contracts.

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(And no,you cannot just do "anything you feel like" with people,and not suffer consequences for it)


Dude...look at the thing in front of you. It is a computer. I can't do anything to you from this side of my computer. You can always get up and turn the thing off...*laughing*...or can you???

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RE: Spotting a fake... - 8/13/2005 9:13:34 PM   
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Quite honestly, it serves as a kind of litmus test. When I think about the people who most strongly object to it, I find they are the people with whom I have the least in common.


Ahhh...so little we have in common then, since I loudly and proudly stated why I thought it was a bad idea right from your initial quest for opinions on it. Seems that thread has vanished, and I"m not going to post private emails between myself and others discussing your initial idea, but I do know that I made my negative opinion of it well known.

I still enjoyed dinner, regardless. :)


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RE: Spotting a fake... - 8/13/2005 9:14:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TallDarkAndWitty

Double Godwin!!! This has to kill it now, doesn't it?

Nope.

1. This isn't usenet.
2. The first time—you were correct that you can't intentionally invoke Godwin.
3. The second time—no comparison was made, so Godwin wouldn't be in effect even if this was usenet.

~stef


Damn...quick, call me Hitler!!!

*wink*

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RE: Spotting a fake... - 8/13/2005 9:18:27 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TallDarkAndWitty

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I'm a little confused. Isn't this verification site YOUR site? If it's not your job to explain what it is, whose job is that?


Just consider it art... It provokes and inspires...it certainly isn't the artist's job to explain it.

Taggard


If it is just art, what kind of accountability do you feel you have to the people that have paid money to the site for a service?

If this is just art, what kind of accountability do you feel you have to the people that consider it a site that will give them some sense of not being scammed by a fraudulent person on the net? Do you feel you owe them anything at all? If not, then why should they use your service?

If you are not paying any attention to the site because you are too busy to take care of it, why are you still taking money from people on it?

If you -- the person that runs the site -- considers it just art and it is not your job to be at all accountable for it, or defend it, then how can they trust you -- the person that is supposed to be helping prove the legitimacy of others?

If your site is one more step to help people develop some sort of 'reputation' in the scene (ie, not be just a HNG), how important is your own reputation? Is it important enough to answer the accusations/concerns/questions people have?

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RE: Spotting a fake... - 8/13/2005 9:19:37 PM   
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Akasha, I completely agree with you, but I think the whole discussion is pointless. It's just a game to him. We should leave him alone with his game.

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RE: Spotting a fake... - 8/13/2005 9:19:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: sanita


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4) People that photoshop the same picture to look like two pictures


seriously! and when you can see the pixilation from resizing any one part of the pic!



Actually, for the pictures on that profile you don't even have to know Photoshop. She's wearing a Victoria Secret bathing suit, and VC's website will change the suit on the model for you. It's just too easy to copy a couple of pictures.



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RE: Spotting a fake... - 8/13/2005 9:19:54 PM   
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Ahhh...so little we have in common then, since I loudly and proudly stated why I thought it was a bad idea right from your initial quest for opinions on it.


Well, getting right down to it, we probably don't have that much in common. Our BDSM kinks are so very different. I practice a very M/s|D/s style, while you are much more into the physical sensation (right?).

But beyond that, your response wasn't the kind of response I was talking about. You stated your objections, quite clearly and succinctly, when I asked for them. You didn't create new threads, like AAkasha did, or bring up my site when I posted on a topic remotely related. She, and a few others, form an unnatural obsession with the site...or is it with me?...and that is what I am talking about.

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I still enjoyed dinner, regardless. :)


And so did I! It would be sooo boring to only hang out with people who were like me.

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RE: Spotting a fake... - 8/13/2005 9:22:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TallDarkAndWitty

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ORIGINAL: SherriA

Ahhh...so little we have in common then, since I loudly and proudly stated why I thought it was a bad idea right from your initial quest for opinions on it.


Well, getting right down to it, we probably don't have that much in common. Our BDSM kinks are so very different. I practice a very M/s|D/s style, while you are much more into the physical sensation (right?).

But beyond that, your response wasn't the kind of response I was talking about. You stated your objections, quite clearly and succinctly, when I asked for them. You didn't create new threads, like AAkasha did, or bring up my site when I posted on a topic remotely related. She, and a few others, form an unnatural obsession with the site...or is it with me?...and that is what I am talking about.

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I still enjoyed dinner, regardless. :)


And so did I! It would be sooo boring to only hang out with people who were like me.

Taggard



It was actually very much on topic for this thread -- it's about spotting a fake. Isn't verifiedbdsm.com a site helping to weed out fakes? You want to think this is about you, and that feeds into your need for attention. It's actually about trying to get a straight answer about your motivations. Despite your attempts to try to get it off topic, or push it toward insults to get it modded off, I think it remains very relevant and revealing. I won't respond to your personal jabs regarding your sigline or hints that you think I might have an obsession about you. Let's just get some answers -- if that's ok with you.

Akasha

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RE: Spotting a fake... - 8/13/2005 9:25:20 PM   
TallDarkAndWitty


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If it is just art, what kind of accountability do you feel you have to the people that have paid money to the site for a service?


And those people would be? Or are you talking about a subject in which you are ill-informed?

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If you are not paying any attention to the site because you are too busy to take care of it, why are you still taking money from people on it?


And what evidence do you have that suggests I am doing any such thing?

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If you -- the person that runs the site -- considers it just art and it is not your job to be at all accountable for it, or defend it, then how can they trust you -- the person that is supposed to be helping prove the legitimacy of others?


I would suggest they don't.

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If your site is one more step to help people develop some sort of 'reputation' in the scene (ie, not be just a HNG), how important is your own reputation? Is it important enough to answer the accusations/concerns/questions people have?


Apparently not.

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RE: Spotting a fake... - 8/13/2005 9:26:27 PM   
TallDarkAndWitty


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We should leave him alone with his game.


This is rich coming from LROD... *laughing*

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RE: Spotting a fake... - 8/13/2005 9:29:55 PM   
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If it is just art, what kind of accountability do you feel you have to the people that have paid money to the site for a service?


And those people would be? Or are you talking about a subject in which you are ill-informed?

quote:


If you are not paying any attention to the site because you are too busy to take care of it, why are you still taking money from people on it?


And what evidence do you have that suggests I am doing any such thing?

quote:


If you -- the person that runs the site -- considers it just art and it is not your job to be at all accountable for it, or defend it, then how can they trust you -- the person that is supposed to be helping prove the legitimacy of others?


I would suggest they don't.

quote:


If your site is one more step to help people develop some sort of 'reputation' in the scene (ie, not be just a HNG), how important is your own reputation? Is it important enough to answer the accusations/concerns/questions people have?


Apparently not.

Taggard


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Your lack of concern for your own reputation is disappointing, but really seems to contradict your desire for attention.
However, it seems the right thing for you to do would be to change the wording on your site a little to reflect what someone can really expect from it. Which is apparently nothing.

Akasha

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RE: Spotting a fake... - 8/13/2005 9:32:08 PM   
TallDarkAndWitty


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Sounds like he has some "control" issues -- maybe it's a dom thing. But when it looks like he'd rather say "oh I am in control of this negative attention, in fact, I wanted to cause it" then "maybe I am wrong, maybe I did something inappropriate, maybe I didn't see things in another light..."


Why (and how) I post on these message boards (from this thread on another forum):

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Primarily, I am here to learn. I find that there are three ways to learn on a message board. The first, and most obvious, is to read what others have written. This method is hit or miss, as many write things that simply aren't worth reading.

The second is to explain my own position. This is often a very helpful way for me to organize my thoughts and flesh out some of my less pondered opinions. This way works well for me, but after 9 years of online debate, there aren't a lot of questions left for me that I have interest in seriously pondering. Every once in a while one comes up, so I still engage in this kind of activity. It also keeps my thoughts and opinions sharp and ready for the next way to learn on these fora.

The last way in which I learn is by defending my positions against the sharp, and sometimes savage minds of the denizens of this board. I deliberately provoke an attack on something I believe so that the fabric of my belief is tested and stretched and often torn asunder. I then have to really examine why my belief did not hold up to attack and stitch it back together in a stronger and more complete thought.

The other reasons I am on these message boards is to promote myself and to flirt with the pretty ladies. *winks and air kisses to all the pretty ladies*

The last thing I come here for is the flame wars. I enjoy them...I can't help it.


You may not get it...I don't care.

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RE: Spotting a fake... - 8/13/2005 9:35:01 PM   
TallDarkAndWitty


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However, it seems the right thing for you to do would be to change the wording on your site a little to reflect what someone can really expect from it. Which is apparently nothing.


Which is pretty much what I have been saying all along. Lordandmaster had a post with the ten or twelve times I said pretty much that.

Look, if you don't like my site, don't visit it.

Obviously, this has some deep and meaningful connection to you...I really am begining to get curious as to what it is...oh wait...no I'm not.

*wink*

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RE: Spotting a fake... - 8/13/2005 9:35:03 PM   
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Well, getting right down to it, we probably don't have that much in common. Our BDSM kinks are so very different. I practice a very M/s|D/s style, while you are much more into the physical sensation (right?).



I suppose I don't consider my personal kinks to be particularly indicative of who I am as a whole. My kinks are pretty different from a LOT of people that I consider having a lot in common with me. Of course, that could be because I have LIFE, not a lifestyle as I'm fond of pointing out; I'm much more than a collection of kinks. Multifaceted individual, and all that, ya know?

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RE: Spotting a fake... - 8/13/2005 9:37:53 PM   
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I suppose I don't consider my personal kinks to be particularly indicative of who I am as a whole. My kinks are pretty different from a LOT of people that I consider having a lot in common with me. Of course, that could be because I have LIFE, not a lifestyle as I'm fond of pointing out; I'm much more than a collection of kinks. Multifaceted individual, and all that, ya know?


Oh yes yes yes...and you know that my forum persona has little to do with how I am in three dimensions.

I enjoy taking on all comers...it makes for quite an intellectual challenge.

How have you been, anyway??? I never see you post anymore...

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RE: Spotting a fake... - 8/13/2005 9:39:07 PM   
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Let's just get some answers -- if that's ok with you.


And I am the one with control issues?!?

*smile*

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RE: Spotting a fake... - 8/13/2005 9:48:03 PM   
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Thinks a fake could be someone trying to make money off gullible people into bdsm.

Im in another country. Never been to a scene event and most likely never will.

My profile is pretty pathetic. My old profile picture id get asked if it was a fake.

The people I had met into bdsm has nothing to do with this site. I have cable internet so i can look up anything i want.

So going by that im a fake. I cant be prooved yet here I am.

I have a slave registration number that ive forgot yet I can easily get 1000 of them without a worry.

I can pay for some stupid site to get validated yet what does that get me? It gets me online training easy to fake. Yes ma am no ma am three bags full ma am. I can send photos, licence, address everything. I can even just fake that shit as I can just type it up on the net and use some programmes to make it look pretty.

Yet here I am.



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RE: Spotting a fake... - 8/13/2005 9:49:04 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TallDarkAndWitty

Oh yes yes yes...and you know that my forum persona has little to do with how I am in three dimensions.



True, though frankly I've never really understood the point of that. Why pretend to be someone that your'e not? Pretty much anyone who has met me in meatlife says that I'm just who I appear to be online. I can't imagine trying to cultivate a persona that wasn't true to who I really am. *shrug*

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How have you been, anyway??? I never see you post anymore...


I'm well. Life has been busy, but mostly good busy. I haven't had a lot of time for online forums and what little time I've had has been spent elsewhere. I tend to go in fits and spurts with this kind of thing. When all the posts seem to be rehashing things that have been discussed over and over again already I get bored and go back to my book sites. Since there are ALWAYS new books out there, it doesn't seem to happen nearly as often in that venue.

Somone sent me an email quoting a post that I'd made a year and a half ago and mentioning that my name had come up, so I peeked in.


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