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ModeratorEleven -> RE: Going dutch (12/5/2007 11:24:03 AM)

Ok folks, that's enough.  

XI





Mellissande -> RE: Going dutch (12/5/2007 11:37:31 AM)

wow, I think we all need to calm down. They will delete this thread if you two don't simmer down. And that will ruin the purpose of Kail's question. Please this is not a personal battle. She is not huge, His sexual preferences are of no relevence. Now children would you both kindly join me for snack time?




sexyred1 -> RE: Going dutch (12/5/2007 11:39:42 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Mellissande

wow, I think we all need to calm down. They will delete this thread if you two don't simmer down. And that will ruin the purpose of Kail's question. Please this is not a personal battle. She is not huge, His sexual preferences are of no relevence. Now children would you both kindly join me for snack time?


Yes, Mel, you are right. He is not worth the energy expended typing. At least I feel good in knowing that I did address Kail's question awhile back. I will always join YOU for anything, snacks or otherwise. :)




velvetears -> RE: Going dutch (12/5/2007 11:51:46 AM)

FR

Haven't read all the replies so if i repeat i apologize.

i always pay my own way when i go out.   We are on equal terms and we both do not owe each other anything. If he invited me to a very expensive restaurant and i couldn't afford it or didnt want to spend an elaborate amount i would say so, if he said he would be willing to pay for me than fine.  i just prefer not to have people i don't know well pay my way.  If i am in a relationship, as i was with my ex Master he was a very generous man and would not allow me to put out a dime.  i would have gladly done so if he requested it, because i would have known, for whatever reason, there was a need.

It sounds to me like you are keeping score - He ate food from my cupboard therefor he should pay when we go out - don't have expectations when you give to get back, because if you don't you are going to set yourself up for disappointment.

i don't see what giving over control has to do with the exchange of money.  Are you selling your submission?    If you are strapped for money be up front and tell him - maybe you could do things together that don't cost anything.  If not and you have it - pay your own way, it's not going to kill you. 




strD -> RE: Going dutch (12/5/2007 12:14:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

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Opinions ????


He's cheap.



Really????   Maybe, just maybe this girl should have asked that Dom. I would not have assumed she wanted one. girl has mouth use it for more than bj's. 




KatyLied -> RE: Going dutch (12/5/2007 12:29:28 PM)

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girl has mouth use it for more than bj's. 


girl didn't realize there is more to the lifestyle than bjs. 




topcat -> RE: Going dutch (12/5/2007 12:33:52 PM)

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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

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girl has mouth use it for more than bj's. 


girl didn't realize there is more to the lifestyle than bjs. 


Don't say that!
 
There isn't more, damnit! everytime some posts that friggin' list it screws up my schemes...




adoracat -> RE: Going dutch (12/5/2007 12:38:03 PM)

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ORIGINAL: topcat

quote:

ORIGINAL: KatyLied

quote:

girl has mouth use it for more than bj's. 


girl didn't realize there is more to the lifestyle than bjs. 


Don't say that!
 
There isn't more, damnit! everytime some posts that friggin' list it screws up my schemes...


well yeah...there's bondage and spankings and all sorts of other fun things.  blowjobs are just PART of the fun!

kitten, laughing




Jeffff -> RE: Going dutch (12/5/2007 12:40:31 PM)

Jeff finds the third person speak very annoying....:)

Jeff




LaTigresse -> RE: Going dutch (12/5/2007 12:47:19 PM)

using fast reply.........

Aside from the humorous sidetrack....... I've been thinking about this thread after reading various points.

To be honest, my kneejerk reaction was something akin to the "cheap bastard" points. However, after reading some good points, and thinking about it, I cannot criticize the guy. There is no way to know what his intention was AND it appears she doesn't know either.

It all comes down to does a slave/submissive submit to only the things they like? Well the Sub Slave Handbook 101 I read, said that giving over total control meant submitting to ALL of their dominants wishes. So, regardless of intention, I think that means said sub/slave retrieves said drink and likes it. Then waits patiently for their dominant to determine their next act. Not pout because she was not offered a beverage.

Considering the situation in that vein kinda led me to consider it from a different perspective. What if he did it just to see how she would behave? If I were he, I would say good riddance. If she cannot comply without throwing a hissyfit over something as mundane as a beverage.....lord knows she is probably going to cut and run with the important shit. I don't think you can have it both ways, full of vanilla acts when it pleases the sub/slave then all fun and kinky bossy when it turns them on. If thats the case then it seems less a M/s relationship is desired and more of a vanilla with kink.

Just my two dollars




Jeffff -> RE: Going dutch (12/5/2007 12:52:31 PM)

Now there is a well thought out point of view. I must admit, the hour and a half walk home seemed odd to me also


Jeff




OldBastardly1 -> RE: Going dutch (12/5/2007 12:59:05 PM)

I am leaning in that direction as well.




jesiul -> RE: Going dutch (12/5/2007 2:03:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

using fast reply.........

Aside from the humorous sidetrack....... I've been thinking about this thread after reading various points.

To be honest, my kneejerk reaction was something akin to the "cheap bastard" points. However, after reading some good points, and thinking about it, I cannot criticize the guy. There is no way to know what his intention was AND it appears she doesn't know either.

It all comes down to does a slave/submissive submit to only the things they like? Well the Sub Slave Handbook 101 I read, said that giving over total control meant submitting to ALL of their dominants wishes. So, regardless of intention, I think that means said sub/slave retrieves said drink and likes it. Then waits patiently for their dominant to determine their next act. Not pout because she was not offered a beverage.

Considering the situation in that vein kinda led me to consider it from a different perspective. What if he did it just to see how she would behave? If I were he, I would say good riddance. If she cannot comply without throwing a hissyfit over something as mundane as a beverage.....lord knows she is probably going to cut and run with the important shit. I don't think you can have it both ways, full of vanilla acts when it pleases the sub/slave then all fun and kinky bossy when it turns them on. If thats the case then it seems less a M/s relationship is desired and more of a vanilla with kink.

Just my two dollars


I will say it was also my first thought, that he was somewhat of a cheap ass... but then again I have to totally agree with the fact she was given a task and didnt seem to care for the circumstances of not being allowed or given a drink.

On the side of that I have to ask what she means by play partners?  For me a play partner can be someone I have a M/s scene with no submission required, to a D/s dynamic, where while together I am submissive.To me there appears a vague definition of just what kind of relationship she was having with the Dominant.

Also if this was in the spetrum of a D/s playpartner status, taking her to a pub, even if not allowing her an alcoholic drink should not preclude her needing a beverage, perhaps soda or coffee. If a Dominant I am playing with asked me to an evening out, I would assume since the invite was from him, he would be paying for the event. If I was taken to a pub, and given funds to purchase only him an alcoholic beverage I would have asked if I could also have one, or perhaps assumed I was not being allowed alcohol for the evening and requested a coffee or something.

Altogether this situation seemed to have been handled with a poor response on her behalf by simply walking out on him.

~jesi~




kyraofMists -> RE: Going dutch (12/5/2007 2:36:27 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse
I think that means said sub/slave retrieves said drink and likes it.


A very well spent 2 bucks in my opinion.

In regards to what I quoted above, I am not required to like it.  I am required to perform said task with grace.  Pouting, sulking and getting pissy is not allowed.

Knight's Kyra




PlayfulGoddess -> RE: Going dutch (12/5/2007 3:12:07 PM)

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ORIGINAL: masterlink65

i think this thread would make a great southpark episode.
cartman: maaauuuummmm, am i sposed to buy my sub a drink.
mom: i dont know honey, maybe we should ask your father.. oh wait, i dont know who he is




LOL THAT IS ACTUALLY FUNNY! [sm=applause.gif]




PlayfulGoddess -> RE: Going dutch (12/5/2007 3:29:42 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

what is tattooed guys running around in 'wife beaters'?  Is that like jockey shorts with skid marks or what?

Ron


JUST SAY NO TO SKIDMARKS!




PlayfulGoddess -> RE: Going dutch (12/5/2007 3:38:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: masterlink65

sexy red, you really are cute arent you. nice personal attack again. you should really be talking about someone elses photos, you look a little, how should i say this ???? well fed, perhaps..you knda look like a man with a wig on too.

feel free to look at my profile and photos. yup, thats my alpha slave, with the wife beater and collar.

and feel free to keep the personal attacks coming kids.




LOL You KNOW I HAD to take a look, right? LOL
 
<gotta ask.... So is that painter's tape or is that urinal just taped on the wall? jk [sm=biggrin.gif][sm=biggrin.gif][sm=biggrin.gif][sm=biggrin.gif][sm=biggrin.gif]




laurell3 -> RE: Going dutch (12/5/2007 4:11:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: topcat

quote:

ORIGINAL: KatyLied

quote:

girl has mouth use it for more than bj's. 


girl didn't realize there is more to the lifestyle than bjs. 


Don't say that!
 
There isn't more, damnit! everytime some posts that friggin' list it screws up my schemes...


LOL I agree.  Blowjobs are pretty important.




Politesub53 -> RE: Going dutch (12/5/2007 4:19:53 PM)

Just smiles  [:)]




masterlink65 -> RE: Going dutch (12/5/2007 5:03:32 PM)

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So is that painter's tape or is that urinal just taped on the wall?


it surprised us both that when the tape was removed the urinal held its place.




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