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RE: 9.11 "mystery plane" still unknown - 12/9/2007 1:12:00 AM   
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i didnt say i dont give a shit about 9-11,  i just dont give a shit about what you or others say about it., and yes i will continue to have my laughs at your expense.


well if you "ever" have something more than "nothing" to say about the subject then stop back.  as of now you have offered zippo to this debate and i have no reason to believe that will change in the very near future.

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RE: 9.11 "mystery plane" still unknown - 12/9/2007 1:23:56 AM   
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ooooooh was that a smack down from a fuzz ball?  now my feelings are hurt......................not really.  and i have added to this debate, its just that its not that much to debate with someone who doesnt take your point of veiw and get offended by it.     i have my own opinion of 9-11 and im sorry but you nor anyone else can sway me from it. and if you want to spend your time searching for the holy grail go for it.

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RE: 9.11 "mystery plane" still unknown - 12/9/2007 1:40:19 AM   
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ooooooh was that a smack down from a fuzz ball?  now my feelings are hurt......................not really.  and i have added to this debate, its just that its not that much to debate with someone who doesnt take your point of veiw and get offended by it.     i have my own opinion of 9-11 and im sorry but you nor anyone else can sway me from it. and if you want to spend your time searching for the holy grail go for it.



errr yah well thanks but you really arent telling me anything that i didnt already know from your previous posts.  i'm glad you didnt get offended because it was not meant to offend, strictly stating a fact.  Why are you even bothering to post to this thread since you have nothing to say?  Until you state and make a case your posts are just a waste of bandwidth.


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RE: 9.11 "mystery plane" still unknown - 12/9/2007 1:47:43 AM   
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funny i didnt realize that you started the thread, it seems to me that you kind of hijacked it, so i figured what the hell................why not.

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RE: 9.11 "mystery plane" still unknown - 12/9/2007 1:52:46 AM   
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not at all.  in my very first post to this thread i think i identified the plane as an e4b doomsday bird.  this is what the thread evolved into and you are coming into a couple of debates that date back a couple years between us.  no hijacking here except with your four last how ever many posts that are nothing more than blather.

Hey if you got something you want to say about 911 spit it out and lets see where it stands or if it stands up to scrutiny at all.  Otherwise this is pretty much pointless with you.




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RE: 9.11 "mystery plane" still unknown - 12/9/2007 2:01:53 AM   
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thank you , you finally got it............its all point less............................................. ya know what they say about arguing/debating online...............wether you win or lose you still look retarded.............and yeah i get to go laugh my self to sleep since i know im retarded.  rotflmao

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RE: 9.11 "mystery plane" still unknown - 12/9/2007 2:06:38 AM   
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quote:

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thank you , you finally got it............its all point less............................................. ya know what they say about arguing/debating online...............wether you win or lose you still look retarded.............and yeah i get to go laugh my self to sleep since i know im retarded.  rotflmao



no, not "its",  you are pointless.  see, you learned something after all.  sleep well.





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RE: 9.11 "mystery plane" still unknown - 12/9/2007 4:38:35 AM   
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Yes, it was an E-4B. I already investigated those planes, often using research already done by others present on the web. Linda Brookhart photographed another such plane in the Pentagon area. There are only four such planes and apparently they were used to coordinate the scam.

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RE: 9.11 "mystery plane" still unknown - 12/9/2007 6:49:49 AM   
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oh.

Then explain what the problem is since her numbers match the fema report or femas match hers which ever you prefer?  Fema is the federal emergency management assholes, or something like that.

Where is the problem?

Oh I see what you are saying.

So the upper 30 some stories didnt pancake in your opinion?  Is that it?  I guess I am not clear exactly what your point is.


and thats not a weasel btw, its getting the job done right :)  I'm sure this is the first time you ever seen it while its ancient history to me and i have not see those in months.  My memory is pretty damn good but not perfect.





ok lucky I was not able to validate what you said about jowenko so give me the specific link you looked at and time mark to make sure we are looking at the same thing or i have to call bullshit on you.

and whats your problem with judy I am still not clear enough on exactly what your point is to comment on it?




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RE: 9.11 "mystery plane" still unknown - 12/9/2007 9:34:05 AM   
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So you are uwilling to look at the Zembla interview...no real surprise there.

Please name the Senators who agree with you on this stuff real, since you claim that a few do....

Feel free to show me anything that Dr Wood and FEMA report agree on.  Of course you know that FEMA was not involved in the investigation.

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RE: 9.11 "mystery plane" still unknown - 12/9/2007 11:41:10 AM   
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So you are uwilling to look at the Zembla interview...no real surprise there.

Please name the Senators who agree with you on this stuff real, since you claim that a few do....

Feel free to show me anything that Dr Wood and FEMA report agree on.  Of course you know that FEMA was not involved in the investigation.


mkinney, and the minnesota dude for 2 there are a couple more that i dont know their names off the top of my head.  You mean you are that uninformed on this stuff huh....

fema, nist and the 911 commission agree with her on the time it took the wtc buildings to fall.  9 seconds and 10 or 10 and 11 I forget which,  Like i said I am way beyond these baasics and have not read them for a long time.   Feel free to do your own research.

Right fema was involved in the cover up.

Of course I am willing to look at what ever it is you looked at. 

I do not know how much more clear anyone can be lucky.  I asked you to give me the "exact" site you were looking at so there would be no confusion.

See lucky right here:
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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
ok lucky I was not able to validate what you said about jowenko so give me the specific link you looked at and time mark to make sure we are looking at the same thing or i have to call bullshit on you.


That means I want to make sure that I am looking at the EXACT SAME THING YOU DID.

Since you dont want to give me that its fine, but now I will call bullshit.  DJ did not "examine it".  He looked at the loose change video which only show the squibs which may or may not be explosives.  That was all that was available to him when he did that intervierw.  The loose change video does not show the explosions and danny commented on how "bizarre" it was the way they came down.   Now days we have helecopter videos and several private videos that confirm the bright white flashes cause those squibs.

DJ did look at the plans for the wtc7, he did not look at the plans of wtc 1 and 2 because they were not available at the time and the methods used on wtc 1 and 2 were not standards demolition which you can see by the way he talks that is what he expected to see was a "standard" demolityion and since it did not fit that scenario felt it was a collapse.

If DJ were shown the footage we have today and presented with the actual drawings for the building his analysis would be different for 1 and 2.

wtc7 was a classic demolition and to my surprise you did not recognize that and probably still dont, i certainly wouldnt expect you to recognize a nonclassic demolition that even fooled a pro when viewed from a distance.

remember he did not see any building drawings like he did on wtc 7.  If your video shows him looking at actual design  or damage drawings for wtc 1 and 2 like he did with 7 by all means point out precisely where he does because on the zembla footage i seen he does not so dont pretend that he examined it when he did not. 

So i am calling bullshit, he did not "examine" the demolition of 1 and 2.  He only seen the loose change video which shows the building imploding from a distance to far away to see and or hear the explosions used to bring it down.  He did not see any of that footage.





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RE: 9.11 "mystery plane" still unknown - 12/9/2007 12:29:57 PM   
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The problem of course is well said here :

Americans have a bad habit of believing those who they consider trustworthy instead of examining evidence for themselves.

As former Assistant Secretary to the US Treasury, Dr Paul Craig Roberts said,

Americans never check any facts.

Who do you know, for example, who has even read the Report of the 9/11 Commission, much less checked the alleged facts reported in that document.

I can answer for you. You don’t know anyone who has read the report or checked the facts.”


sound familiar?


and he is wrong; i read nist fema asce and the 911 omission reports.






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RE: 9.11 "mystery plane" still unknown - 12/9/2007 3:12:10 PM   
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So you think Mickenny is a Senator?  Just another example of how you toss out Bullshit and think its true.  So you can't name a single Senator to back up your claim, no real surprise there.  So you refuse to look at the Zembla interview, no real surprise there.  And you lie about what is in it, with out looking.  Again no real surprise there, its the standard MO for you. 

Anyone want to look here is 1 of 3, the links for the other 2 are on the same page.  http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4731246656734761470  Note this is the actuall interview, not what some nuts say about it afterwards.  Also note real can not explain why he takes this guys opinion as gospel on 7 but ignores him on 1&2.

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RE: 9.11 "mystery plane" still unknown - 12/9/2007 6:17:25 PM   
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i rest my case LOL


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RE: 9.11 "mystery plane" still unknown - 12/9/2007 8:43:18 PM   
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so real how much of your evidence would hold up in a court of law?  i mean you are judging the government.    and can you really trust your sources?   im just wondering

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RE: 9.11 "mystery plane" still unknown - 12/9/2007 9:35:31 PM   
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If it were you or i we would have been hung or shot a long time ago.   Norad was caught in a bold faced lie to the omission comission and they simply "ignored" it.   "It wasnt their job to find fault".  Its not a problem of it holding up in court its a problem of getting government to police themselves.

What a deal you know.  We have the fox guarding the hen house in this country.  you bet this stuff would hold up in court if ever gets there.  Now days its a war of the mind.  If people can be made to believe there is nothing there, no one wil bother looking and after 50 years whens its a classic and tall the real perps are dead it wont matter..  Look at the kennedy assasination.  They are all dead now that we know and whos ass is there to kick?  no one.

Why?  because we "trusted" our government.  We didnt march on washington and demand justice.  Next was weaver, then burning kids and women at waco, then murrah, now 911, so whats next 1/2 of LA?  It keeps getting bigger and it will continue as long as we are foolish enough to fall for it.

If you think i am just blowing smoke up your ass take a look at operation northwoods that was signed by the joint chiefs of staff to use terror against our own people by our government.  false impreisonment false accusations killing us, th euse of media as a propaganda tool the whole lot.  Exactly as we see going down here.    Welcome to perpetual fear for you and your kids.

Might want to read "orwell 1984", and there is a lot of people like lucky who cant believe itt regardless of the evidence.

It wasnt to overly long ago i told a buddy of mine who served in nam that i hadnt seen in a while and he walked away.  said hey i dont even want to hear none of that shit.  i told him to look into two things and gave him a couple links to lookat saying just take a look man.

about 2 months later he drops by the house and was ready to pick up his gun and march on washington he was so pissed.

People dont know because we are stoopid enough to "trust" our government and people like lucky want to keep us looking the other way as long as possible.  We should be ashamed but we turn a blind eye.


"They must find it difficult.......those who have taken authority for truth rather than truth for authority"  -Gerald Massey





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RE: 9.11 "mystery plane" still unknown - 12/9/2007 9:45:18 PM   
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so that leads me to this question......do you ever feel like your beating a dead horse?   most pple wont comment on this stuff anyway, they read a little and decide they dont want to hear about it anymore.   plus this is not the only thread with this subject matter.    so you seem to be getting tuned out. 

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RE: 9.11 "mystery plane" still unknown - 12/9/2007 10:14:38 PM   
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ha!  I am not so sure about that.  I would agree that this site has the most closed minded people on the subject.  i am on several boards and aside from this one the tide has changed in a big way and people that take lucky's position are literally getting blasted from every angle.    Then again the people who call themselves the most open minded that are on this site are in reality the most clossed minded.  Life is full of its interesting twists.

Other boards people have long since come to the conclusion that we are the targets and they have joined togehter to share resources and work together to find the truth from the bits and pieces that we are able to put together.   After aall our government has and is keeping most of it secret. 

If you think i am kidding try getting a copy of osama bin ladens medical records.  YOU CANT!  Not even through an foia!!!  WHY?  BEcause it violates his privacy, WHY? Because he is said to be a dual citizen!  Which makes sense as the privacy act foesnt protect foreignors.

Not really beating a dead horse.  Its wonderful for showing up the propaganda tactics being used against us.

Look at what lucky does.   i told him i would look at the exact tape he did and he accuses me of not being willing to do that.  He bitches about judy woods claiming that she is a quack and when i ask exactly what his problem is with her he calls me a liar for mistakenly identifying a representaive as a senator.  LOL  

Anything to throw people off the trail of the government and make me look like a fool with total irrelevancies and i assume that people on this board are smart enough to see through that.  but that is a big assumption i suppose. At least i make it obvious enough every time he does it.   In any case its a wonderful education on how the propaganda mill works ya know.


If you want to dig a bit feel free as i have shit loads of data, in fact i have so much its gotten to the point i have ahard time finding a lot of it now days that i would be more than happy to share with you and as long as you are nice i will be nice too :)




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RE: 9.11 "mystery plane" still unknown - 12/10/2007 2:57:56 PM   
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wanna see another piece of what i mean when i say its not conspiracy theory but conspiracy fact?  Take a look at the flight recorder data from flight 77 the one that "supposedly" hit the pentagon.

Pandora's Black Box - Chapter 2: Flight of American 77


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RE: 9.11 "mystery plane" still unknown - 12/10/2007 7:24:19 PM   
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yet anyone who wants can look at the video interview I posted and see that real is lying...simple enough

Who really cares if the majority on one his Neo Nazi web sites agree with him.


Here is a perfect example of reals "evidence"  Its a guy saying that there was no second plane, it was a bomb.


Rule here is an eye witness for you:

WTC Witness - No Second Plane, It Was a Bomb   Its short less than 30 seconds so take  a look.

the man says he "could see the whole thing"

Which is absolutly impossible.  You can not see all 4 sides of a building at once.  Real having never been to NYC has no idea of the scale of the thing.  To claim you can see the wholle thing is impossible from anywhere on the surface of the earth.  It is a man in shock talking to a camera.  It is as false as if he were saying 2+2 = 9.

But to Real it is absoluty true and a smoking gun of some kind.

enough said....

Basically all of the evidence real posts is this waek and ridiculous



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