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RE: O'Reilly sacrificing principles - 12/8/2007 11:24:14 PM

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If we want to get info from those savages in GTMO all we need is two things; heroin and bourbon.
Those muslims don't drink alchohol so you put them on a good strong regiment of bourbon drinking everyday for about two months.
Get em good and soused and hooked.
Then, you take it away, let them get right to the edge of the d.t.'s and put a bottle of hooch about 20 feet away from them where they can see it but can't get to it.
Then the talking will start.
You can use heroin the same way.
For the tough ones you use both at the same time.
You get the info out of them then take them for a little ride on a chopper.
"Ahcmed, you like fishing?"

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RE: O'Reilly sacrificing principles - 12/9/2007 7:37:39 AM

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Those muslims don't drink alchohol

Why do you always need to take TWO Southern Baptists with you to go fishing?

Because if you only bring ONE Southern Baptist, they'll drink all your booze.

If you bring TWO of them, they keep each other honest.

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RE: O'Reilly sacrificing principles - 12/9/2007 11:01:54 AM

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Humm... would I want to put my head on the chopping block, to stand up for my principals? If it came right down to it, then yes I would!

Why? Because if you sacrifice the ideas you consider worthwhile, then you just end up living in the same sort of shitty society your enemy already is living in. So, if you go down the road to lowering yourself to their level, you end up with the same result: a barbaric, lawless world.

At least, by sticking to our Constitution, our ethics, our principal of "treating others as you yourself would want to be treated" we gain a chance of coming out on top. Otherwise, you are no different than your enemy.

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RE: O'Reilly sacrificing principles - 12/9/2007 3:15:20 PM

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Popeye, Pershing was the guy in Philipines who was dipping the bullets in Pig fat before shooting muslims right?

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RE: O'Reilly sacrificing principles - 12/9/2007 3:41:02 PM

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

O'Reilly sacrificing principles in nothing more than a bunt, he has always had a dearth of anything resembling principles.

Ron

Well said.

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RE: O'Reilly sacrificing principles - 12/9/2007 8:20:30 PM

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ORIGINAL: luckydog1

Orion there was no amendment saying it was ok to Scalp Indians with no Habeus Corpus.

There was no amendment saying it was ok to send the marines to Libya to slaughter villages and take hostages to change the region.

The reality of our history is one act of unlawful violence after another.

I don't know why you think I don't go outside. I live in Alaska because I love the outdoors. But that is obviously something you are fixated on instead of actuall debate.

Jesus, fucking, christ! You were the one that started playing the naive card, and reading more into what I wrote. Yeah there were no amendments for those things, I know this, but there should have been. Has the point been missed somewhere? We should have stood on principles then.

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Surviving and caring for those I love are part of my ethical/moral virtues. And I do extend those to my nation. I see no purpose in harsher than waterboarding interogation, and would expect it to be the exception, not the rule. But I do want unpleasant interrogation methods used on People reasonably connected to terror groups. I do not want them tried in open court. I do think we need a system of oversight, similar to the Senate select commitee, to handle these issues and unprecedented threats. There does need to be oversight, and it is currently inadequate. Got that. There is currently Inadequate oversight, and it need to be fixed. But there is a real problem that we have to deal with.

How one treats their enemy, reflects greatly on the virtue of those people. It is a slippery slope. If we are going to use torture, then we need to back out of every treaty we have signed, that states that we will not. If we are going to do certain things, then lets stand up and say proudly we do them. Let our children see it done, because only shameful acts need be hidden. If the US is to be a warrior nation, then let us adopt a warrior code. If the US is going to sneak around as assassins, then let us adopt the code of the cretin.

The seeds you plant today, will be harvested in time. As a rule it should be no torture, as an exception, the person doing the exception can have a medal for saving millions of lives, and then placed in prison to pay for it. What is ten or twenty years of a man's life, compared to saving millions? Take the action and accept the consequences, honor and integrity demands no less.

I guess now I am going to be called a liberal, because I disagree with some things from the republican camp. I could care fucking less, I am an Independent conservative, and that does not include sacrificing principles in the name of saving lives, when it cannot be proven that it is saving lives.

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RE: O'Reilly sacrificing principles - 12/9/2007 11:26:01 PM

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250
If we want to get info from those savages in GTMO all we need is two things; heroin and bourbon.
Those muslims don't drink alchohol so you put them on a good strong regiment of bourbon drinking everyday for about two months.
Get em good and soused and hooked.
Then, you take it away, let them get right to the edge of the d.t.'s and put a bottle of hooch about 20 feet away from them where they can see it but can't get to it.
Then the talking will start.
You can use heroin the same way.
For the tough ones you use both at the same time.
You get the info out of them then take them for a little ride on a chopper.
"Ahcmed, you like fishing?"

Er...um...savages. Yes, I see. *hands you a kleenex*

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