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RE: Would you want to know? - 12/9/2007 4:02:11 AM   
TysGalilah


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In order to tell the story I need to tell to ask what I want to ask I have to give a little back story. Ill try and make it as short as possible. I met my first dom a few years ago. We finally met in Janurary 2006. Things were great, for awhile. Then they went south. Bad times. Cheating ensues, and I hang on because I was so completly 100%  head over heels, without hestion would say yes if he asked me to marry him (not kinda girl who believes in marriage). I am released, but still have enough hope to agree to go and see him a few times afterwards. Last time there while cleaning his house, I found a reciept for jewelry. I assumed it was for another girl. He didnt correct me when I told him about it. Last straw for me, i tell him im not going up anymore. This was in feb. 07.

He still wants to be friend, I try until he tells me he thinks he is in love with this girl. I say i need time. I cry myself to sleep every night, I start drinking, and doing other things not actually any form of  healthy for me. I finally get over him enough to start talking to him. I move on. We talk every few weeks, just a hey how are you sort of thing. I start seeing someone. He tells me he thinks he might his girlfriend to marry him. Hurts a bit but i get over it fast. Things are going good with the guy i am seeing. He treats me like gold, and really has my best interest in heart when making decisions for me.him.us. 

Then out of the blue I get a message from the old Dom, (lets just call him D1 and my new Dom D2) telling me that he wants me to come Domme him, and hurt and humilate him for dumping me. This is the first I ever hear of him being a switch. He had told me he was a sub for a short while, but that it didnt work out. He begs me, actually begs me to come 2 him. And tells me that he lied to me about cheating, that he never did. And that the jewelry reciept was jewlery for his mom, and that he planted it there, knowing I would clean his house and see it. His reason: beign scared of getting to serious.

He claims he wants me back. Sounded sincere on the phone. But still doesnt want to get real serious and doesnt want to hurt me again. Now, when I say I was hurt, Im not lying. I was in physical pain I hurt so bad. I lost 15 lbs in two weeks because I couldn't eat. I had a mental breakdown.

Im not leaving D2. He is so good to me. treats me right. wants more than sex from me. He is honest with me, sweet, kind, caring. Has the thought crossed my mind of what would happen if I did leave him and take a chance on D1. Yes it has. My answer is still the same. Don't leave D2.

Now my question is, should I tell him that my ex wants me back? Should I tell him my feelings, thoughts and concerns on the subject? Or should I just not mention it? And Yes, He does know, or should know anyways, that I still talk to B1 from time to time.

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Hi goodgirl

Glad to hear you are taking care of yourself now and in a healthy loving relationship that supports and encourages that. ........ .protect that like the treasure it is.
 
I am all for total honesty and agree with those that have advised that.
 
YET
I would suggest you ask yourself what is your real motivation for wanting to tell dom2 ( your current  if I have my numbers right) about this other guys current attempts.
I think its an important question for you to ask yourself.
   He knows you talk with him ~ thats good
   He knows about your past relationship and why it ended~ good.   And has agreed to allow you to continue talking.
  I am sure because he trust you to be strong enough and wise enough to understand the difference between what you have and what you had   AS WELL AS  how to handle this guys drama without getting sucked into it!/....
 
Because that is how I see this new scenario...........drama in his life and hes trying to "emotionally" control you because he cannot or is not in control of, well himself !  and certainly not in control of your submission anymore.
 
OK  I will admit being biased on this and projecting some of my own stuff   why??

I have a friend...male.
previous relationship.
self-destructive sort...nice enough person...
but loves to be the victim.
Tyson ( my Master) knows of him
knows we talk.
I tell Tyson often when he and I communicate..
 
often times this other person, friend, will be having a very bad spell and he hates being alone....fear of it.
when he IS alone...he comes looking for me.
I know this.  and when I say " looking"  I mean "wanting me back"... its never direct  but he makes subtle comments to see if I will bite.
he is NOT serious..not emotionally capable of accepting anyone who would really say YES  anyway.
he is addicted to codependant relationships and he neeeeeds to know he is needed.
drama to him spells releif.
and the more people he has sucked into his drama the better about himself he feels.
 
now if this isnt all ringing true in your case  I do sincerely apologize
but when I read what you wrote..> this is what I thought of.
 
the man you speak of  wants to know you will come running if he asks.
he needs to know that > for himself  NOT for you  : )
I will bet my next paycheck  IF YOU DID come/go... you would eventually be rejected emotionally  maybe even physically  just as you were before.
 
ok 
so about telling your current Dom ( sorry   got off track )

I'm not going to tell you whether you tell your Dom now  about this mans current advances. ( only YOU know how your relationship works and what is really best for you two ).

 
Honesty is always the best. 
Having said that>>
 Ask yourself what motivates you to tell current dom about this now ?
are you tempted?  do you want to see a reaction?  is it passive aggressive motivated ( meaning you are telling currentdom because you want to see his reaction towards you being protective or jealous)?  etc..... have you been instructed to tell him everything and are just doing as told?

 
In my situation
if it became something that I would need to keep from Tyson in any way> I would choose to cut off my communication with that other person.
I, personally, look at it more like:  the unsolicited emails I get from males wanting me to know they are solicitating my attention.  I  toss that mail easily away and never bother my dom with the fact that it was unsolicited, disregarded, handled and discarded.
But then again, Tyson has access to my password and can read anything for himself anytime he wants.
 
Only you know how these advances feel to you, tho' : )
 
good luck and warm wishes



 
 


 

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RE: Would you want to know? - 12/9/2007 5:17:00 AM   
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I think it depends on how involved you are with D2, i.e., collared, exclusive, etc. And how long D1 has been sniffing your ass.

Ideally, the first course of action would be to tell D1 that you are involved, collared, exclusive, whatever, with D2 and that you find it disrespectful to both D2 and yourself, for him to think that you would even think about it. And inform him that if it continues at ALL, that you will ask D2 to handle it.

I see no reason to get D2 involved, unless D1 persists. I also don't see a future friendship being possible with D1 either. He has issues. And he will always be looking for "his chance".

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RE: Would you want to know? - 12/9/2007 6:02:22 AM   
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Personally if I was in your shoes I would tell D2 ...... but here is the other thing I would think about.....If I was sure of my love and respect for D2.....would I really want to keep intouch would D1 who is creating emotional blackmail, if he is causing me this much emotional upheaval.... because every time causes me emotional upheaval , it  does have an impact with my relationship with D2 by either causing moodiness or loss of focus on him, which by his own actions and respect  he does not deserve, he deserves someone that will dedicate her all to him including her emotional health.  Just something to think about 

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RE: Would you want to know? - 12/9/2007 6:03:30 AM   
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Tell D2 everything, including the part about preferring him to D1.

Stop dealing with D1.  He sounds like a "do-me" Dom anyway!  Why would he even beg you to top him?  <boggles>  What a drama whore.  And I'll call bullshit on his explanations, too.  Kick him to the curb.  You're better off now with someone who thinks of you and your relationship and considers your needs, rather than this selfish prick.



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RE: Would you want to know? - 12/9/2007 6:37:54 AM   
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i tell the men that i'm seeing, everything that may impact our relationship together; nothing else is necessary or important.

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RE: Would you want to know? - 12/9/2007 7:30:25 AM   
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Honesty tends to be the best policy as much as possible.
Once you start having to lie, and omission is a form of lying,
it might become more and more difficult to maintain the relationship.

I always ask myself how I would feel if the other person were to do what I want to do
to them.
If you would not like it, don't do it.
If it would not bother you, than do it.

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RE: Would you want to know? - 12/9/2007 7:36:05 AM   
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I'd tell him.  Be completely honest about it.



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RE: Would you want to know? - 12/9/2007 7:50:36 AM   
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    What the Hell are you doing.!!!! This Dom is not honorable and yet your giving kudos to him. For anyone else that thinks this behavior is expectable does not see the mental damage it does has no business being in this or any other lifestyle.

  I feel bad for you GG i think you have great potential. But not with this Dom. There is far more better Dom's out there who respect you and honor who you for who you  are as a person. Do not let these drive by posters persuade you into doing the stupid things and stay with this Dom... He will ruin the good you do for others and your self.

May you find the peace you seek  

< Message edited by LATEXBABY64 -- 12/9/2007 7:53:39 AM >

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RE: Would you want to know? - 12/9/2007 7:53:41 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LATEXBABY64

   What the Hell are you doing.!!!! This Dom is not honorable and yet your giving kudos to him. For anyone else that thinks this behavior is expectable does not see the mental damage it does has no business being in this or any other lifestyle.

  I feel bad for you GG i think you have great potential. But not with this Dom. There is far more better Dom's out there who respect you and honor who you for who you  are as a person. Do not let these drive by posters persuade you into doing the stupid thing and stay with this Dom... He will ruin the good you do for others and your self.

May you find the peace you seek  
 You make no sense.

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RE: Would you want to know? - 12/9/2007 7:58:39 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LATEXBABY64

  Do not let these drive by posters persuade you into doing the stupid things and stay with this Dom



Have I gone blind? I didn't see any "drive-by posters" say anything about going to D1. Perhaps we expect too much from LB64. I am not sure if English is his 1st language.....Is it?

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RE: Would you want to know? - 12/9/2007 8:19:22 AM   
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    IT makes perfect sense. She got into a relationship with someone that promised something and did not deliver what he said he was going to do. Avoided responsibility or obligation to the relationship. 

So He flipped flopped over his emotions and now thinks he can have his cake and eat it to  Excuse me it dose not work this way.  This behavior only makes malfunctioning people

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RE: Would you want to know? - 12/9/2007 8:22:29 AM   
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Psssssst........go back and re-read the OP, LB64.

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RE: Would you want to know? - 12/9/2007 8:46:24 AM   
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Tell D2 what exactly?  That D1 contacted you and wants you back?  That would not be earth-shattering news in my relationship.  Or is there something you aren't saying?   Are you actually considering doing something with D1?  Nowhere in your post do I see that you have any interest in topping him, only that he's come back and wants you.  So what?  Tell him, "nice to hear from you, glad you've figured your shit out, hope you find what you want in a more direct way, have a good life".

What are you really struggling with?  Why is this an issue for you?  What is the real issue?  Do you know?


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RE: Would you want to know? - 12/9/2007 9:51:48 AM   
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Honestly, if i were "D2", what i would want most is to know that you were completely breaking off your relationship with "D1" before he screws with your head anymore. Anything else would make me irritable and questioning of your actual interest in the D2 relationship.

"Oh, I wasn't really cheating, I was playing games with you to make you jealous"... i have to say, that's not a tactic i would have thought of myself. Guess the whole Dom thing is more complicated than it looks

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RE: Would you want to know? - 12/9/2007 3:59:14 PM   
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I Did read the post. My response is correct  

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RE: Would you want to know? - 12/9/2007 5:39:39 PM   
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The whole jewlery story just doesn't ring true to me.  I'm sure as you look back on the incident you'll start seeing signs that perhaps he did plant the receipt, but believe me, that's your mind playing tricks on you.  If you were to go back you'd probably find lipstick or lingerie that he "planted".

I have a feeling that someday my ex is going to come back with some dumb story, and if that happens I will be telling my Daddy, I will not allow myself to fall for anything other than "I'm sorry I screwed up", and as long as I belong to my Daddy there is no way in heck I'd go back to my ex.

Stay where you are appreciated and don't allow your mind or emotions to fool you.


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RE: Would you want to know? - 12/9/2007 5:46:05 PM   
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If I were in D2's position and you told me the tale of D1 I'd expect you to drop him from your life.  I'm all for exs staying friends, but not if there are flames still burning so strongly. 

I'm only assuming you really want to keep D2 of course, while you itemize the reasons that make him (what I'll call) a good boyfriend, you don't really say you're that attached to him.

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RE: Would you want to know? - 12/9/2007 5:46:13 PM   
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Most people answer their own questions if only they would re-read their own post. Read it as if it was someone elses...would that make you form an answer?   Read it out loud. The sheer enormity of ongoing murk  would tell me to close that account.

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RE: Would you want to know? - 12/9/2007 10:04:56 PM   
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Cut all ties with D1...tell D2 all about D1 and what's been going on and how you're perfectly happy right where you are!

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