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RE: How do You get it to stop? - 12/12/2007 7:41:52 AM   
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Being whiney and insecure. The main reason that Doms/Dommes dump submissives.

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RE: How do You get it to stop? - 12/12/2007 7:44:47 AM   
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Being whiney and insecure. The main reason that Doms/Dommes dump submissives.


That knife cuts both ways.  A whiny, insecure dominant is a pathetic thing to behold.


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RE: How do You get it to stop? - 12/12/2007 8:15:29 AM   
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Being whiney and insecure. The main reason that Doms/Dommes dump submissives.


That knife cuts both ways.  A whiny, insecure dominant is a pathetic thing to behold.



Both of you agree that being whiney is decidedly  unattractive.  I must admit it's a peeve of mine that when someone whines
ppl come to their "rescue" with the poor you bs.  When they need a swift swat and words to the effect get over it.  I can't think of a single instance where whinning improved a situation. 

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RE: How do You get it to stop? - 12/12/2007 8:44:27 AM   
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She didn't whine she asked for advice on how to handle an obsession to check on her dom. She admitted that she has insecurities and wants to stop - she's asked us to assist her in doing that. She said she trusts him 100% - she does not lay blame on him, but on herself - how is this whining?   She's admitted to having a stumbling block she needs to get over, she has been hurt before and she understands that is an impedimant to her - give her some credit. Shes not here tossing out wild "what if''s" and saying shes worried he's going to cheat.  Not everyone can be stoic, not everyone wants to be, not everyone should be. 

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RE: How do You get it to stop? - 12/12/2007 10:52:27 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: SailingBum

quote:

ORIGINAL: KatyLied

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Being whiney and insecure. The main reason that Doms/Dommes dump submissives.


That knife cuts both ways.  A whiny, insecure dominant is a pathetic thing to behold.



Both of you agree that being whiney is decidedly  unattractive.  I must admit it's a peeve of mine that when someone whines
ppl come to their "rescue" with the poor you bs.  When they need a swift swat and words to the effect get over it.  I can't think of a single instance where whinning improved a situation. 

I did read all the posts and realize that in the past that she has trust issues.  With that being said that is like saying I was in a car accident so now I won't drive.  Sure the first couple times it may be tramatic that will pass.  Kali has worked herself into a frenzy sleepness nights ect with no basis in reality according to her. At some point she needs to get over her trust issues.
She is subconsciously attempting to drive him away because she has closeness issues.  Further more if she continues to discuss the same issue over and over again with her dom as some suggested, it will come across as nagging that only makes the situation worse. I stand by my previous statement.

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Any "Dom" that would dump her for being where she is in life given what she has been through is not worth her time.   "Get over it" is horrific advice.  Being in a car accident is not even remotely similar to the trauma she has been through, nor it is true that the effects of  such trauma are temporary.  She is doing the best she can where she is right now and it is good enough and much better than where she was before and even much better than when I met her.   Your lack of understanding, sympathy, compassion and ignorance on the issues that are present in many in the lifestyle is astounding.  Your intolerance for humanity speaks volumes about your ability to relate to REAL people.

People ask advice on forums.  All of your posts tend to reflect that you somehow resent being asked for advice which leads me to ask you this...why don't you just "get over it"? I hate to point it out to you, but the superior, I don't have problems, you are all whiney guy is just as unattractive and attention seeking as what you perceive her to be, which isn't at all what she is. Kali isn't actually whining, she's being accountable and trying to help her situation, you on the other hand, are.

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RE: How do You get it to stop? - 12/12/2007 5:04:05 PM   
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BadOne,
i apologize if i came off whiney or needy that was never my intention......However, one thing that He and i agree on (and has frankly been covered numerous times on this board) is that by me keeping my thoughts, fears, insecurities or feelings to myself i am in fact lying...An omission of truth is still a lie.....In our world anyway....
My intention on here wasn't too seek pity or sympathy...It was simply to seek advice and find  a way over or through this particular area which is admitidly difficult for me. 
 
KatyLied, Velvetears, and Laurel: You are some of the most awesome and inspiring women i have ever met...
 
thanks,
Kali


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RE: How do You get it to stop? - 12/13/2007 12:09:56 AM   
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Any "Dom" that would dump her for being where she is in life given what she has been through is not worth her time.   "Get over it" is horrific advice.  Being in a car accident is not even remotely similar to the trauma she has been through, nor it is true that the effects of  such trauma are temporary.  She is doing the best she can where she is right now and it is good enough and much better than where she was before and even much better than when I met her.   Your lack of understanding, sympathy, compassion and ignorance on the issues that are present in many in the lifestyle is astounding.  Your intolerance for humanity speaks volumes about your ability to relate to REAL people.

People ask advice on forums.  All of your posts tend to reflect that you somehow resent being asked for advice which leads me to ask you this...why don't you just "get over it"? I hate to point it out to you, but the superior, I don't have problems, you are all whiney guy is just as unattractive and attention seeking as what you perceive her to be, which isn't at all what she is. Kali isn't actually whining, she's being accountable and trying to help her situation, you on the other hand, are.
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I knew I took a unpopular stand on this issue.  So much so I received a threating email today which I suspect was related to this post.  I'm so sca sca scared lol.  I was very careful with what I said.  I suggest you reread and UNDERSTAND what I said.  I never said dump her.  What I did say was some ppl suggested that she keep discussing this with her dom.  My concern was that the dom might consider this nagging. adding fuel to the fire as it were.  Being cheated on is a fact of life.  I suspect that most ppl on here have either cheated or have been cheated on at some point in their life.  Sure it hurts, it is humiliating, it just plain sucks.  I have first hand experience at being cheated on.  My point is simple it happens all the time.  To my mind it is how you deal with lifes glitches is the yardstick that I use.
Perhaps you should consider this.  Her coping skills needs work.  One would think that the dom is aware of this.  So if this dom is so caring , wonderful, considerate, blah, blah,.  Why in the FUCKING world is he doing this to her???? 

As far as me being REAL well I am typing this so i must be REAL.  I really don't understand your venom towards me but whatever floats your boat. I think your intentions are pure just misguided.  Being resentful wtf over???  The name calling really turms me on.  As far as my IQ well I am not the sharpest knife in the drawer.  Somehow I did manage to muddle through life with a MBA from Michigan State and send both my kids to college.  One is a accountant my other daughter has a master in social work MSW.  So I do have a little knowledge into how the mind works.  Matter of fact I discuss this with her before I posted.

The car accident was a analogy.  ummm my mother was thrown through the windshield and died when I was 10 years old and guess what I was the passenger.  Perhaps you should think before you open your mouth it will help you look less like a idiot.  Prolly not though.  btw the clinical definition of a idiot is someone doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results.

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RE: How do You get it to stop? - 12/13/2007 12:36:41 AM   
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BadOne,
i apologize if i came off whiney or needy that was never my intention......However, one thing that He and i agree on (and has frankly been covered numerous times on this board) is that by me keeping my thoughts, fears, insecurities or feelings to myself i am in fact lying...An omission of truth is still a lie.....In our world anyway....
My intention on here wasn't too seek pity or sympathy...It was simply to seek advice and find  a way over or through this particular area which is admitidly difficult for me. 
 
KatyLied, Velvetears, and Laurel: You are some of the most awesome and inspiring women i have ever met...
 
thanks,
Kali



Dnomyar
Being whiney and insecure. The main reason that Doms/Dommes dump submissives.


WTF Velvetears,Kali and Laurel Do you ppl read and understand the English language?  I did NOT direct the whine comment to Kali.  That was in comment to another post.  I can't speak any plainer.  Look Kali I understand your situation better than you realize.  I did not read all the post however it seems obvious you could use some counseling.  There are plenty of free crisis hotlines located throughout the US.  Instead of getting support here.  Why don't you contact a hotline and get professional advice.  Because it is clear the advice here does not seem to be working.

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RE: How do You get it to stop? - 12/13/2007 2:42:00 AM   
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btw the clinical definition of a idiot is someone doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results.

BadOne

I think you're looking for "insanity"...and it's not the clinical definition...but, here's a cool if off topic quote addressing it...
 
"Sometimes doing the same thing a second time when it hasn’t worked the first is indeed just foolish. But sometimes it’s shrewd. Wisdom consists, in part, in knowing the difference. Flexibility is a virtue. But in most matters, flexibility properly kicks in only after persistence has been given a fair chance."
 
http://morrisinstitute.com/weekly/mihv_pc_morris_71.html << I found the site interesting.
 
 
 

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RE: How do You get it to stop? - 12/13/2007 8:15:37 AM   
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I did not read all the post however it seems obvious you could use some counseling.  There are plenty of free crisis hotlines located throughout the US.  Instead of getting support here.  Why don't you contact a hotline and get professional advice.  Because it is clear the advice here does not seem to be working.

BadOne 


i'm really trying to not be  a bitch or anything here....However, having said that....i find it hilarious that You not only can make an assumption that the other posts are not working, but dismiss them all so quickly......What exactly gives You the impression that they are not working?  i find that not only slightly arrogant, but fairly inaccurate....
 
Also, the whole 'I understand your situation better than your realize' condescending bullshit....Yeah, i'm thinking not so much...
 
Regarding Your suggestion that i seek 'professional help' thanks, i'm already doing that. As i've more than readily admitted in almost every other posts i've ever created....
Thanks,
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RE: How do You get it to stop? - 12/13/2007 9:00:05 AM   
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I'd like to bring the discussion back to the proper focus, which is dealing with insecurity and jealousy in a relationship - especially when one has been hurt before and had previous bad experiences that serve to make those feelings worse. Something I think everyone who has ever had a relationship (Top or bottom) can relate to. I don't think this is a discussion about someone asking for help being whiny, or whiny being a reason a submissive might be dumped - which I find entirely inaccurate. So inaccurate that I don't feel like the comment bears responding to at all, other than to be dismissed outright. Which, I am going to do, and you should too.

What I do want to address are the perfectly legitimate and normal feelings kali is having, and how to deal with them in a healthy way.

First of all I want to thank you, kali, for having the guts to ask for help and advice on this topic. It's not easy, and as you see it can open you up to other people being critical of your feelings. I apologize for that and applaud your willingness to share your personal experiences with others. There are countless submissives out there who will identify with how you are feeling, and who have had a hard time dealing with the exact same things. It's very good to share and to help others, and to go to others to find out what the heck to do if you feel like you are floundering on your own. There's no reason you have to deal with this alone, that's why we have community.

I only just recently found the boards here, at a suggestion from someone who read my blog, and I'm so excited to join you. Forgive my late entrance into your discussion, but it's something I have a lot of experience with and I hope I can help, at least a little bit.

Not knowing the context of your relationship I cannot give exact advice but I can give you some opinions about this kind of thing in general.

In life the only thing we can truly control is ourselves and our own behavior. (And, sometimes that isn't so easy even) Trying to control, or predict someone else is futile, and very frustrating. Now, I am not saying you are trying to control your Dominant. I don't believe you are. What I am telling you is that regardless of if he is trustworthy or not, you can't control what will happen and making yourself sick with worry about an event you cannot control the outcome of isn't healthy for you. Learning to let the things go that we cannot control, particularly as a submissive, is very difficult. It's scary, and not very easy to let go of. But, you must realize there are things in this situation you can control to balance the fact that what he does, or might do, or could do, is yet to be determined.

The first thing you can do is try and control your own behavior. Letting it turn into panic and worry. Something that keeps you up all night or makes you continually check a profile, or log-in times - you know this is not healthy for you. As a submissive, particularly if you actually belong to this person, you have a responsibility to care for yourself. No Dominant would want their bottom tearing themselves up so, or losing sleep over what might happen. Not sleeping, the constant worry and checking of profiles is an effort to maintain some control over a situation that can seem a little overwhelming. The first thing you need to worry about is taking care of yourself. Being able to say 'OK Self, this isn't good for us' and stop it. No matter what happens you will be better equipped to deal with it if you've slept and take care of yourself. If you are having a hard time with those things, I suggest you go to your Dominant and ask to talk about the hard time you might be having with things like self discipline.

Which brings me to - talking to your Dominant. You may already have done this but I think, in this case, it is the best thing that you could do. I think it's excellent you sought help and support from others online - but the key thing you need to do here is talk to the HIM in your life. Relationships cannot thrive without communication and he should be open to this from you. If you haven't yet, go to him.

Tell him how you feel. Be honest about how it is affecting you. Tell him of your fear and insecurity. If he is angry or simply brushes you off with an easy answer, there's a warning sign. If he listens to you, and discusses it with you, and is willing to work on your fear with you, then you have your answer. You have to take this to him and give him the chance to work through it with you. A Dominant is a lot of things but we're not always mind-readers. If you don't speak up he may not know anything is wrong.

If you've spoken up and nothing has changed then you have to ask yourself why. Some of it may be you, but he may also not be hearing you, or open to hearing your needs. You have to be able to decide if you are being listened to and cared for in a responsible manner. All you can do is take how you feel, and what you've been doing to him, and give him the opportunity to be the Dom he signed up to be to you. It's his job, and if he cares for you he probably relishes the moment to work something out with you, to make you more his, and deepen the trust between you.

Please stop blaming yourself. This is me, all me. It really isn't you, and all you. Yes, some of it is you, and worry and letting it trouble you too much. Not all of it is though. If your relationship was completely secure you wouldn't be having these issues. Futher even the most secure relationship suffers some insecurity and fear when one, or both the partners are social online with other people. Especially in our lifestyle where everything isn't traditional and monogomous - where many of our relationships are self-defined. It's easy to worry about what could happen to a relationship we care about, and no one wants to lose someone they love.

You obviously love this person and there is no girl in the world in your situation who wouldn't worry, at least a little bit, about 'what if' in this situation. Let's be clear about something though. As women, top or bottom - and even men too - we have a highly developed sense of things. If your gut is telling you something, nagging at you, maybe there's a reason why. I'm not saying something bad is happening, but generally our guts bug us for a reason. Maybe in your case it's simply that you need to talk to your Dominant and get things out in the open. All I am saying is don't disregard what your body and soul tell you. I think we can be insecure and worry. I also think sometimes out gut tells us things that we dismiss because we think we are simply being silly and insecure.  

It's hard to tell which. Don't discount that something could be wrong simply because you believe it's just you. I think you may have been there before and ignored what you knew out of love. All you can do, no matter what's going on, is be honest about how you feel and give him a chance to listen and respond to you.

Give them a chance to BE your Dominant. Give up the control and see what they do with it. They will either prove themselves worth your obvious devotion, or not.

If not, you will be hurt, but you will also have a chance to heal and care for what will one day belong to the Dom of your dreams.

If so and he proves himself worthy you've already found your dream and should rejoice.

Either way you won't know unless you go to him and put this ball in his court and trust that no matter what happens you've done the best you can with it.

I think you're obviously a deep, loving girl. No matter how badly things have gone in the past you deserve a good relationship. Don't knock yourself, or put yourself down when you have these feelings. Your vulnerability is real, and natural, and makes you beautiful and any Dominant failing to care for that isn't worth his salt. It is normal for a submissive to have these worries. You are, after all, human. My wish is that he is all you hope and listens to you and creates a situation in which you thrive and are able to learn to trust. Don't torture yourself with it, or let it keep you up at night. Take a deep breath and congratulate yourself on taking the first step to dealing with it.

Merry Christmas, girl.

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RE: How do You get it to stop? - 12/13/2007 9:10:27 AM   
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I think you're looking for "insanity"...and it's not the clinical definition...but, here's a cool if off topic quote addressing it...
 
"Sometimes doing the same thing a second time when it hasn’t worked the first is indeed just foolish. But sometimes it’s shrewd. Wisdom consists, in part, in knowing the difference. Flexibility is a virtue. But in most matters, flexibility properly kicks in only after persistence has been given a fair chance."
 
http://morrisinstitute.com/weekly/mihv_pc_morris_71.html << I found the site interesting.
 
 
 


But of course I "changed" it to suit my point

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RE: How do You get it to stop? - 12/13/2007 9:18:26 AM   
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I'd like to bring the discussion back to the proper focus, which is dealing with insecurity and jealousy in a relationship - especially when one has been hurt before and had previous bad experiences that serve to make those feelings worse


The only things I've found that work for me in this situation, and believe me, I've worked on this for a long time.  Is that I try to be the best I can in a relationship.  When I have nagging feelings, I distract myself.  I read, I occupy my time so I don't have to obsess over the possibility of negative stuff.  And I remind myself of my value.  Beyond those things I don't think there is a lot anyone can do.  Everybody hurts...sometimes.


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RE: How do You get it to stop? - 12/13/2007 9:23:51 AM   
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Either way...insanity or idiocy...that whole statement never made a whole lot of sense to me. I love the term "urban adage".

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RE: How do You get it to stop? - 12/13/2007 10:08:07 AM   
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i'm really trying to not be  a bitch or anything here....However, having said that....[/quote]

Who are you trying to convince???  Flame on it's a public fourm.
ehhh the issue with free advice you get what you pay for

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RE: How do You get it to stop? - 12/13/2007 2:49:08 PM   
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i'm really trying to not be  a bitch or anything here....However, having said that....
Who are you trying to convince???  Flame on it's a public fourm.


Public forum, private forum it matters little to me where it's actually at. The point (for me) is regardless of where i am at and what i am doing i am responsible for me...My behaviors, my actions, my words, my attitudes, and my perception....i also believe that on some leve my attitude and my actions (as well as my words and behaviors) are somewhat a reflection of Him...
 
The statements that You quoted of mine, were more or less for my benefit...No one elses.....
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RE: How do You get it to stop? - 12/13/2007 3:07:48 PM   
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AnnabelHell,
i really really need to thank You for taking the time to write out Your thoughts here. i appreciate them more than words can say. i think part of what i was looking for (unintentionally) is to know or be told that i'm not crazy and there is nothing wrong with me....i guess perhaps that's part of what i've struggled with the most is the fact that because there are no signs or signals or even feelings that i shouldn't trust Him, that somehow i'm just crazy....
Thank You as well for validating my feelings and experience...One of the things He continues to tell me is, "of course you are going to feel this way...Every other person you've been in a relationship has cheated on you, lied to you, or done other horrible stuff to you...Why do you think that would all go away in a few months."
i've probably slept the past 5 days maybe 8 hours...Last night when i called Him crying in the middle of the night and woke Him up He was just so calm and kind about everything...He asked me what was really going on and He said He wanted to know if there was a correlation between Him telling me  that He was going to become more active in the BDSM community (online mostly) and my not sleeping...i told Him i honestly didn't think there was any relation.....i did however  talk to Him about all of my feelings (again).....
It's so bizare for me to be in a relationship where someone not only wants to know what i'm feeling or thinking but encourages it........And i guess that's where what some of the posters here triggered in me....i'm afraid if i keep talking about a subject it's going to make things worse...Which is frankly one of those old beliefs i need to challenge....
Thank You for everything You said...The last paragraph made me very teary eyed.....
Your kindness and mercy overwhelm me,
Kali

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RE: How do You get it to stop? - 12/13/2007 3:11:50 PM   
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For what it's worth i wouldn't stop visiting collarme even if I was bound and gagged and tied to the opposite wall....
no one's going to stop me visiting here except me, of my own free will...
it's the need to belong, the need for advice, the support, the stimulation and above all that it brings me out of that feeling of scarcity...I would be very happuy if a partner was here too.......
and yes the only way to let go is to let go.......but then I most teach what I most need to know,,,,,
stay well


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RE: How do You get it to stop? - 12/13/2007 3:14:54 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kalista07

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ORIGINAL: SailingBum
I did not read all the post however it seems obvious you could use some counseling.  There are plenty of free crisis hotlines located throughout the US.  Instead of getting support here.  Why don't you contact a hotline and get professional advice.  Because it is clear the advice here does not seem to be working.

BadOne 


i'm really trying to not be  a bitch or anything here....However, having said that....i find it hilarious that You not only can make an assumption that the other posts are not working, but dismiss them all so quickly......What exactly gives You the impression that they are not working?  i find that not only slightly arrogant, but fairly inaccurate....
 
Also, the whole 'I understand your situation better than your realize' condescending bullshit....Yeah, i'm thinking not so much...
 
Regarding Your suggestion that i seek 'professional help' thanks, i'm already doing that. As i've more than readily admitted in almost every other posts i've ever created....
Thanks,
Kali


As she stated and has in her other posts which I asked you to read SailingBum she is in therapy and has been for quite awhile.  She is doing what she can right now.  The issue is not cheating (she said way in the beginning of this thread), and your interpretation of my comments suggests you have real issues that need to be addressed as well.

I did not say you were not "real"...holy cow saying that on this board is the kiss of death....I said she is a real person and your viewpoint of her is inaccurate, again if you had read all her prior threads you would understand this, saying you have when clearly you have not is not helpful.

Her Dom is not doing ANYTHING to her, she is afraid to trust.  It happens when you've been traumatized.  She's working on it and she's doing great.

I didn't say anything about your IQ and your degrees and your children's accomplishments are in no way illustrative of open-mindedness when what your actions and words say otherwise.  By the way there are large number of people on these boards that can list many degrees and qualifications.  They don't, becuase it's not relevant to relate to PEOPLE.

I'm sorry that your mother died, however your ploy for sympathy doesn't excuse the fact that you gave none to the OP who is doing a wonderful job of moving forward past a lifetime of trauma and is having issues with trust.  Hell, she could be so much worse off given where she's been, but she hung in there and worked hard to get where she is and where she is is fine and anyone she is with will understand that or they are not worth her time.  Obviously her coping skills do not suck or she wouldn't be the thriving survivor that she is today.  She has issues, we all do, clearly you do as well SailingBum and you may find that if you listen and talk to people here instead of pointing out their every flaw and attacking you will learn about yourself as well.


< Message edited by laurell3 -- 12/13/2007 3:28:37 PM >


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RE: How do You get it to stop? - 12/13/2007 3:19:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Kalista07

AnnabelHell,
i really really need to thank You for taking the time to write out Your thoughts here. i appreciate them more than words can say. i think part of what i was looking for (unintentionally) is to know or be told that i'm not crazy and there is nothing wrong with me....i guess perhaps that's part of what i've struggled with the most is the fact that because there are no signs or signals or even feelings that i shouldn't trust Him, that somehow i'm just crazy....
Thank You as well for validating my feelings and experience...One of the things He continues to tell me is, "of course you are going to feel this way...Every other person you've been in a relationship has cheated on you, lied to you, or done other horrible stuff to you...Why do you think that would all go away in a few months."
i've probably slept the past 5 days maybe 8 hours...Last night when i called Him crying in the middle of the night and woke Him up He was just so calm and kind about everything...He asked me what was really going on and He said He wanted to know if there was a correlation between Him telling me  that He was going to become more active in the BDSM community (online mostly) and my not sleeping...i told Him i honestly didn't think there was any relation.....i did however  talk to Him about all of my feelings (again).....
It's so bizare for me to be in a relationship where someone not only wants to know what i'm feeling or thinking but encourages it........And i guess that's where what some of the posters here triggered in me....i'm afraid if i keep talking about a subject it's going to make things worse...Which is frankly one of those old beliefs i need to challenge....
Thank You for everything You said...The last paragraph made me very teary eyed.....
Your kindness and mercy overwhelm me,
Kali


Or you may be afraid if he really knew you he wouldn't accept you.  You are one brave lady who is inspiring to others.  You are good enough as you are today, don't ever let anyone suggest otherwise to you.  I'm glad you found someone that sees that hon.

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