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RE: BDSM, D/s, roles and forums - 12/15/2007 7:00:05 PM

crouchingtigress

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i have not noticed myself.

what i know to be true though is that when you do notice something is showing up in your life over and over again esp if it rubs you the wrong way, there is an investigation to be had...

maybe your own feelings about what a strong slave is are shifting and evolving and that is why you are seeing it all over the place?

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RE: BDSM, D/s, roles and forums - 12/15/2007 7:00:33 PM

BeingChewsie

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Is a submissive and/or slave, in your opinion, required or should they be required to submit to or change their personality to suit the D types on a message board?

They should do what their dominant requires them to do. If they don't have one they should do whatever they are comfortable doing. I can't tell on a message board who is dominant and who is submissive in relation to me so everyone is a peer. I believe power dynamics are natural and should be organic between people, not contrived. You may identify as dominant but in relation to me may be submissive or you may identify as submissive but may be dominant in relation to me and I'll act accordingly in face to face interactions.

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RE: BDSM, D/s, roles and forums - 12/15/2007 7:57:56 PM

laurell3

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ORIGINAL: Prinsexx

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ORIGINAL: laurell3

Recently I've seen quite a few posts that seem to say if a person that identifies as a submissive posts on these boards and/or has an opinion that they feel strongly about they are not submissive or in the alternative, if a Dom/me posts on these boards asking for advice is it somehow an indication they are lacking as a Dom/me.

No, i think it's more likely the reverse is true.....
i have strong opinions on just about everything....which is why i am such a bitch to dominate.....
and some of my good friends who are doms are really just the most enquiring, advice seeking friends i have.....
inside a dynamic it's different
PS I am not in a dynamic with a bloody forum

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RE: BDSM, D/s, roles and forums - 12/15/2007 9:09:43 PM

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~~fast reply~~

i dont change who i am on the forums. my personal style is to ponder things, disagree gently and make my point if i have a difference of opinion, and listen to responses, and change my mind if someone can show me a viewpoint that makes more sense to me than my original one.

i belong to Daddy. that's it. i will probably show respect to people on the forums because i respect *them* as people. dominant, submissive, switch, trained monkey with a pole up its butt, if i respect them as people (or as an intelligent monkey) i will give respect.

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RE: BDSM, D/s, roles and forums - 12/16/2007 12:20:23 AM

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Dear laurell3, Ladies and Gentlemen;

Speaking for myself; I do not feel that a slave and or submissive, servant and or bottom are not entitled to opinions, comments and or observations.

There are ways to express such to a Dominant, to which is less antagonistic and still be strong and yet tactful.

Asking for advice is not a poor measure of a person's dominant strength and or nature; nor would it be a poor measure of a person's enslavement and or submission as a slave or submissive and or servant. There must be a means to explore, ask, advise, learn, exchange knowledge and the like. Just because a Dominant/submissive doesn't post--that doesn't mean that what they have read and or seen what others have written hasn't inspired that individual Dominant and or submissive. Sometimes, things have already been written and does not need a 'me too' response.

Any who stop learning--has stopped living.

Just some thoughts.

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RE: BDSM, D/s, roles and forums - 12/16/2007 12:36:36 AM

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I think that people are confusing a general social status with how an individual relates to their partner in an intimate relationship. We live in the real world here, and just because John is submissive to his wife Betty does not automatically mean that John is submissive to the librarian or the bank teller at work. "Slave" and "Submissive" are roles in personal relationships, not a legal status and not a general socioeconomic status that constrains how they may relate to people whom they are not intimately acquainted.

Within some specific cultures, "slave" is recognized as a general social status, but those expectations hold true only within those cultures. They don't work so well in the outside world.

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RE: BDSM, D/s, roles and forums - 12/16/2007 4:40:51 AM

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As long as Vanatru, the man that I call Master, doesn't take issue with me about what I say or do, then life is good.

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RE: BDSM, D/s, roles and forums - 12/16/2007 6:58:31 AM

Sirsinini

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ORIGINAL: wisteriaV

As long as Vanatru, the man that I call Master, doesn't take issue with me about what I say or do, then life is good.

I was actually thinking about this last eveing once my day was complete. But not only when life is good but even when life was not all that good. If he has a problem with what I write to the general public, he will say so. If I disobey rules in what I say to the general public, I get my consequences; other than all that Prinsexx is definately correct
PS I am not in a dynamic with a bloody forum

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RE: BDSM, D/s, roles and forums - 12/16/2007 9:50:14 AM

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I hope a submissive has her own ideas and expresses them. Otherwise, my search is in vain. I don't want a lady who rolls over for anybody. I want someone with strong beliefs and ideals. Someone who expresses themselves strongly and well. I don't want her to lower her eyes to everyone else (unless its for modesty) or is afraid to be who she is.
Someone said not too long ago, that a Dom should want a submissive that is a reflects on him. I want someone, not everyone can have. Someone who intimidates many but believes in me. God bless the strong of mind and heart. They are the worthy ones.

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RE: BDSM, D/s, roles and forums - 12/16/2007 3:15:37 PM

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ORIGINAL: crouchingtigress

i have not noticed myself.

what i know to be true though is that when you do notice something is showing up in your life over and over again esp if it rubs you the wrong way, there is an investigation to be had...

maybe your own feelings about what a strong slave is are shifting and evolving and that is why you are seeing it all over the place?

amy,

great pic!

No as I stated before, it's really not anything to do with me. My viewpoints on the issue haven't changed and won't. It's more the number of posts by people not really familiar with the boards here suggesting there are submissive and domly ways to post. Thanks for the reply though!
l

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RE: BDSM, D/s, roles and forums - 12/16/2007 5:14:08 PM

SirJohnMandevill

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ORIGINAL: laurell3

Does asking for advice on a forum indicate to you that someone is less of a Dominant?

I never hesitate to ask for advice on these boards. If any sub thinks that makes me less of a Dominant, I'll be happy to show her otherwise!

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RE: BDSM, D/s, roles and forums - 12/16/2007 9:17:24 PM

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

Unlike MFM, I have encountered doms on threads demanding that all subs act in a manner that that particular dom enjoys.

Observing this behavior in a few threads isn't what the OP suggested (as I read it...but I could have read it wrong!). She suggested that it seems to be the idea in general that subs are slammed for the way they post and the Doms are not. I've seen many threads where the sub/slave was supported and the Dom condemned. It only take one false to prove an entire assumption or conjecture false.

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RE: BDSM, D/s, roles and forums - 12/16/2007 9:20:05 PM

laurell3

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ORIGINAL: MasterFireMaam

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

Unlike MFM, I have encountered doms on threads demanding that all subs act in a manner that that particular dom enjoys.

Observing this behavior in a few threads isn't what the OP suggested (as I read it...but I could have read it wrong!). She suggested that it seems to be the idea in general that subs are slammed for the way they post and the Doms are not. I've seen many threads where the sub/slave was supported and the Dom condemned. It only take one false to prove an entire assumption or conjecture false.

Master Fire

I actually didn't say that at all. Please reread my OP. I kind of wondered about your post as your opinions are generally very well put and I respect them. I was actually asking both about subs and Dom/mes that are criticised for posting or for how they post. Actually I believe it is more subs criticizing subs than Dom/mes, not that role makes much difference to the general question.

< Message edited by laurell3 -- 12/16/2007 9:23:54 PM >

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RE: BDSM, D/s, roles and forums - 12/17/2007 2:47:09 PM

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ORIGINAL: laurell3

quote:

ORIGINAL: Prinsexx

quote:

ORIGINAL: laurell3

Recently I've seen quite a few posts that seem to say if a person that identifies as a submissive posts on these boards and/or has an opinion that they feel strongly about they are not submissive or in the alternative, if a Dom/me posts on these boards asking for advice is it somehow an indication they are lacking as a Dom/me.

No, i think it's more likely the reverse is true.....
i have strong opinions on just about everything....which is why i am such a bitch to dominate.....
and some of my good friends who are doms are really just the most enquiring, advice seeking friends i have.....
inside a dynamic it's different
PS I am not in a dynamic with a bloody forum

Prinny, I love your P.S., can I steal it?