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RE: The story of O - 12/17/2007 8:10:44 PM

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Luna it was a tv series? was it on cable/ i had never heard of it being on tv before. i didn't think tv would show that.

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RE: The story of O - 12/17/2007 8:21:28 PM

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true enough, i was so afraid to be loaned out and as it happens it was one of the hottest most empowering things i ever did for Master....

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RE: The story of O - 12/18/2007 2:09:27 AM

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The movie made no sense to me.

I found it to be pretty loyal to the book.

Of course, I always felt that the story of O, as well as any derived work, was pure fantastic fiction. Never once did I consider it indicative of what I should expect of D/s or BDSM.

And yes, I thought it was totally hot.

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RE: The story of O - 12/18/2007 6:31:54 AM

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ORIGINAL: takenbyjohnr07

Luna it was a tv series? was it on cable/ i had never heard of it being on tv before. i didn't think tv would show that.

luna is pretty sure it was not a series here in America. Italy this girl thinks . . . but luna is not positive. According to http://imdb.com/title/tt0147791/#comment it was a tv series in 1992 and was released onto VHS in 1994 as a 10 volume VHS collection. It was released onto DVD as a 5 disk set in 2000 and again in 2003. It was written and directed by Eric Rochat (who by the way also directed Histore d'O - the sequel in which she becomes a Dominatrix) most of his other works seem to come out of Italy and Spain.

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RE: The story of O - 12/18/2007 6:33:32 AM

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it was a tv series that origionally came out in 1992. It was released on dvd in luna believes . . . 2003. 10 episodes. There is a five disk set currently on auction on ebay for around $26 (buy it now). Thats where luna got her copy. just type The Story of O in the search bar. The actress playing O is Claudia Cepeda.

Thanks luna... I just finished my Christmas shopping!

Always glad to help Vad!!!!!!!!!! I think you'll like some of the wrist to collar chains that they use in the series!!!!

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RE: The story of O - 12/18/2007 6:35:53 AM

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Thanks, i kind of thought so. It doesn't sound like something the USA would show especially back then. Unfortunately.

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RE: The story of O - 12/18/2007 6:44:55 AM

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Perhaps you should go back and read the original Story of O, which is a very fascinating book, in my opinion. It is of course, a bit nihilistic, but I believe that is the crux of the story, that O wanted to annihilate herself through her service as a slave to both Rene and Sir Stephen. As I recall, and I read it years ago, Rene was her lover who gave her to Sir Stephen; neither man appeared to love O, while she loved them both.

Red, if you like the nihilistic aspect of the origional O story, you really have to check out The Pet. It is kind of a B rate film that came out in 2006 and the ending is as "self-annihilating" of the "pet" who's human name is Mary as the origional O story, but there are some aspects of the plot and training of Mary that are very awesome. It does show a difference between loosely consensual BDSM ( Mary is offered the choice to serve as well as a great deal of money) and the black market of slavery in which women have no choice. Again, luna can only warn you to watch it for the BDSM elements and the emotional context of a woman willing to give up her very life for what she loves. Be warned - This movie has Non- consensual scenes in it and is based on human animal role play between a Master and submissive. But there is a loving quality, a closeness between owner and pet that luna enjoyed. This one seems a little harder to find. Amazon has it used and new starting at 13.49 but ebay doesn't have it.

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RE: The story of O - 12/18/2007 3:23:08 PM

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OK Luna, I bought the "Story of O" series off eBay and I just ordered "The Pet" on Netflix.
I know you warned us but if I have nightmares or they frighten me, I'm coming over and spanking you!

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RE: The story of O - 12/18/2007 5:30:31 PM

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luna will cross her fingers for horrible waking nightmares for Vad - those ones that make you get up all sweaty . . . oh wait, that was a THREAT. LOL luna thinks you'll like em!!!!

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RE: The story of O - 12/18/2007 6:27:24 PM

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Fast reply-
When I first read O at the beginning of my fenture into BDSM, the tender chivalrous side of me hated it, I wanted to strangle the cruel Men who tormented the girl...then I slowly realized I was reading a woman's fantasy....O is like Barbie, in that she is the only vibrant, dynamic, fully realized character in the book..."poor" O is given dozens of exciting sexual scenes..Stephan is like Ken, essentially a cuckolded monogamous accessory to O, if you want to look at it that way.
The movie I own is the 1970's soft core version; I also wondered at the scene in which O is loaned out and Stephan makes a pained face- think the filmakers were vanilla types who could only imagine a Man feeling jealous, despite his Dominant rhetoric. Of course, maybe Stephan was really grimacing and saying, "Damn, she gets fucked all the time and I only get it once a week! Lucky bitch!"
I have the Pet movie, and feel it is an unfortunate mangling; it wants to be both an erotic O type fantasy, but veers into protraying real time sex trafficking, and the sexy fantasy is run over by real world tragedy.

Now if only there were a movie version of Beauty......

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RE: The story of O - 12/18/2007 10:46:06 PM

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Well, you'll have to write the Geffen Company about a possible "Beauty" movie... they are the ones who currently own the rights to all of Anne Rice's non vampire stories.

I just wonder how Beauty would "play" on the big screen... it's so over the top, I think it might come off as unintentionally funny... "camp" if you will.

Still... Gweneth Paltrow as Beauty? Art direction by Sardax, or maybe Michael Manning?

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RE: The story of O - 12/19/2007 5:54:20 AM

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ORIGINAL: BloodLuna

Always glad to help Vad!!!!!!!!!! I think you'll like some of the wrist to collar chains that they use in the series!!!!

luna

luna will cross her fingers for horrible waking nightmares for Vad - those ones that make you get up all sweaty . . . oh wait, that was a THREAT. LOL luna thinks you'll like em!!!!

luna

I'm always on the lookout for new ideas that I can incorperate into mine.

Most of my dreams are enjoyable... it's downloading or computer problems that makes me break out in a cold sweat. I'm more comfortable down in the shop.

I mentioned the DVDs to my wife and she didn't even hesitate to say "order them"...
so maybe 2 spankings might be in order?

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RE: The story of O - 12/19/2007 9:03:43 AM

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Now if only there were a movie version of Beauty......

I enjoyed Beauty WAY more than the story of O. I'm not exactly sure why but I found it too be way more erotic. The slavery was not "nicer" in Beauty.

I do like your thoughts on the story of O. It was my introduction to the BDSM world also. Its kind of nuts to be shown a world with no limits. I do remember reading the commentary in the back of the book pointing out that O never recieved anything she didnt want and that Her Masters did not want to be torturing her and were only giving her what she craved.
I am thinking of rereading it again now that I can fully appreciate freedom in slavery/submission.

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RE: The story of O - 12/19/2007 9:23:09 AM

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ORIGINAL: BloodLuna

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Perhaps you should go back and read the original Story of O, which is a very fascinating book, in my opinion. It is of course, a bit nihilistic, but I believe that is the crux of the story, that O wanted to annihilate herself through her service as a slave to both Rene and Sir Stephen. As I recall, and I read it years ago, Rene was her lover who gave her to Sir Stephen; neither man appeared to love O, while she loved them both.

Red, if you like the nihilistic aspect of the origional O story, you really have to check out The Pet. It is kind of a B rate film that came out in 2006 and the ending is as "self-annihilating" of the "pet" who's human name is Mary as the origional O story, but there are some aspects of the plot and training of Mary that are very awesome. It does show a difference between loosely consensual BDSM ( Mary is offered the choice to serve as well as a great deal of money) and the black market of slavery in which women have no choice. Again, luna can only warn you to watch it for the BDSM elements and the emotional context of a woman willing to give up her very life for what she loves. Be warned - This movie has Non- consensual scenes in it and is based on human animal role play between a Master and submissive. But there is a loving quality, a closeness between owner and pet that luna enjoyed. This one seems a little harder to find. Amazon has it used and new starting at 13.49 but ebay doesn't have it.

luna

Hi luna, I have seen The Pet and own it.

To clarifiy, I did not really say whether I liked the nihilistic aspect of the original Story of O, I was simply explaining how I viewed Pauline Reage's intent. I did like the book, but did not find it to be especially erotic; I have far more books that turn me on. But from a literary standpoint, I felt the goal of what the author was trying to convey was accomplished and I actually feel that Story of O is a good book for people to have in their BDSM reading arsenal, even as something to compare against other types of novels, say from Anne Rice's Sleeping Beauty series. I loved that series, but some found them to be too overly romanticized and fanciful.

Now, The Pet. I agree with you that some aspects of the pet's training were kind of hot, but that was about it for me. Since there was no sexual aspect to the film, it left me cold, but that is because I cannot separate sex from D/s.

The other part of the film which upsets everyone is the human slavery trafficking. That was not hot at all for me and it is all too real in our world today. I intensely dislike when any filmaker tries to make a political statement by using elements of the BDSM lifestyle. All it does it further add to misconceptions that people have of what the lifestyle and those in it, practice.

By the way, I thought Mary's cage was the hottest thing in the film.

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RE: The story of O - 12/19/2007 9:27:59 AM

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Well, you'll have to write the Geffen Company about a possible "Beauty" movie... they are the ones who currently own the rights to all of Anne Rice's non vampire stories.

I just wonder how Beauty would "play" on the big screen... it's so over the top, I think it might come off as unintentionally funny... "camp" if you will.

Still... Gweneth Paltrow as Beauty? Art direction by Sardax, or maybe Michael Manning?

If it it anything like Exit to Eden, it will be a disaster. The book was far better. In my opinion, they should let the Beauty series remain untouched. It would be impossible to capture the various elements of that book on film, I don't care how qualified the director is.

So far, the only film, for me, that captured the inner workings of the mindset of a D/s relationship somewhat realistically was Secretary, which actually was an IMPROVEMENT of the short story written by Mary Gaitskill.

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RE: The story of O - 12/19/2007 6:08:18 PM

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The edition I own has a postscript commentary on Pauline Reage who may or may not be the actual author; there are conflicting accounts as to whether this was a pseudonym of a man, or woman.
But it is interesting for what it is worth, since it describes the woman as the author, writing this book as a love letter to a man she adored; not intending the book to describe an actual life, or possible life, but as an erotic fevered fantasy of how deeply she adored the man, that she wished she COULD become like O to him, even knowing it was impossible.

Which is where I leave it in My mind...how many times have we loved someone so intensely, we wished to completely consume them, either to enslave them, or be enslaved, but in either case to be so bonded, so connected that even branding initials into flesh seemed not strong enough a declaration?

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RE: The story of O - 12/19/2007 6:35:25 PM

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Which is where I leave it in My mind...how many times have we loved someone so intensely, we wished to completely consume them, either to enslave them, or be enslaved, but in either case to be so bonded, so connected that even branding initials into flesh seemed not strong enough a declaration?

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God I would love that. But most men run from that! Even Masters. After all, Renne was smitten with the "playing hard to get" model that couldnt be owned. Havent us women been shown that if we are devoted we will be used up and cast aside? That was a clear message to me from the Story of O. She gave until she had nothing left to give. it was like they sucked the juice out of her. When they finished, they didnt want her anymore.

Frightening message for a sub.

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RE: The story of O - 12/19/2007 6:50:32 PM

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Havent us women been shown that if we are devoted we will be used up and cast aside? That was a clear message to me from the Story of O. She gave until she had nothing left to give. it was like they sucked the juice out of her. When they finished, they didnt want her anymore.

Frightening message for a sub.

Exactly! In Beauty, she enjoys it. She grows in confidence and joy. She finds a different part of herself. She doesn't complete lose her identity. In the novel (at least in my translation), O never enjoys it. It is all done to her, without her permission in the beginning, and, in the translation I had, ends with her death.

And while we're at it--I haven't read much by the Marquis de Sade. Because what I read was SO deeply disturbing. I mean, being kept as a prisoner, then cut open and bled till you passed out every week or so? WTF? I know it was historical, women had little identity, they were just property, blah, blah, blah. Give me some joy with all of it!

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RE: The story of O - 12/19/2007 6:56:43 PM

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O was abandoned......depending on the version...in the movie they live happily ever after. Which is also how I prefer to see it, that in a love story an author has only a limited number of endings:
1. Happily ever after; (Beauty)
2. Tragic death; (O)
3. Bitter parting (9-1/2 Weeks)

I like to think of them living happily ever after as well, but don't fault the author(s) with selecting a different one. I suppose seeing O as a blueprint for a life may be madness...but a delicious dream

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RE: The story of O - 12/19/2007 6:59:13 PM

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Well, in one of the versions Stephen says he will abandon her and she says "I'd rather die" and he says "I'll arrange it." It was actually something that probably made me stay vanilla for a good 5 years or so--I couldn't understand how people could look at it as a model of life.

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