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Huckabee,Huckabee`s son,a hanged dog,and a fired cop wh... - 12/20/2007 7:07:48 PM

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http://www.newsweek.com/id/78241

'allegations that one of his sons was involved in the hanging of a stray dog at a Boy Scout camp in 1998. The incident led to the dismissal of David Huckabee, then 17, from his job as a counselor at Camp Pioneer in Hatfield, Ark. It also prompted the local prosecuting attorney— bombarded with complaints generated by a national animal-rights group—to write a letter to the Arkansas state police seeking help investigating whether David and another teenager had violated state animal-cruelty laws. The state police never granted the request, and no charges were ever filed. But John Bailey, then the director of Arkansas's state police, tells NEWSWEEK that Governor Huckabee's chief of staff and personal lawyer both leaned on him to write a letter officially denying the local prosecutor's request. Bailey, a career officer who had been appointed chief by Huckabee's Democratic predecessor, said he viewed the lawyer's intervention as improper and terminated the conversation. Seven months later, he was called into Huckabee's office and fired.'

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RE: Huckabee,Huckabee`s son,a hanged dog,and a fired co... - 12/21/2007 2:17:47 AM

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The Huckabee family Christmas card was reviewed (amongst others) on the TV last night.

I didnt know whether to laugh, or be embarasssed for them. I would suggest he tries to avoid bringing his family into his campaign in any way in future - after all, in today's politics, image is so important.

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RE: Huckabee,Huckabee`s son,a hanged dog,and a fired co... - 12/21/2007 2:29:39 AM

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The Arkansas State Police do not investigate incidents like this here. That is the job of the county sherriff. The Arkansas State Police only get involved in local police matters when there is evidence of malfeasance, which doesn't seem to be the case here. The state police here under Democratic administrations was a good 'ol boy system. They were rife with corruption, and I seriously believe that is what lays behind his firing.

If you want to compare improper uses of the State Police between Huckabee and Clinton, I can write a fucking book. Clinton used the State Police to take out his laundry, arrange meetups with his mistresses, get his brother out of trouble for drug dealing and so on and so on. Hillary used state money to hire a nanny for Chelsea. That is prohibited under Arkansas law, so she listed the nanny as security personel. The ASP handle security for the governor, so it was clear as day that this was fraud.

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RE: Huckabee,Huckabee`s son,a hanged dog,and a fired co... - 12/21/2007 6:31:21 AM

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I don't think we need or want to see the Republican version of Clinton in the White House.
Aren't they both from the same town even?
I don't know about these "polls."
We're seeing signs for Ron Paul, Mitt Romney, Obama. and Edwards around here. Lots of Edwards signs, he's from Seneca, S.C.
I wouldn't want a Minister or Preist in the White House.
And no more lawyers!
If Huckabee's "surging" we're not seeing it here in S.Carolina.
About two months ago I actually got one of those political polling telephone calls. Funny, they didn't even mention Ron Paul's name among all the other candidates.
But now Paul and Edwards have the most signs on the side of the roads.

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RE: Huckabee,Huckabee`s son,a hanged dog,and a fired co... - 12/21/2007 6:38:29 AM

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The Huckabee family Christmas card was reviewed (amongst others) on the TV last night.

I didnt know whether to laugh, or be embarasssed for them. I would suggest he tries to avoid bringing his family into his campaign in any way in future - after all, in today's politics, image is so important.

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RE: Huckabee,Huckabee`s son,a hanged dog,and a fired co... - 12/21/2007 6:59:20 AM

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Why is it,that when one of the 80 asshole leaders of the GOP get caught being a complete asshole,the automatic response is to bring up Bill Clinton?Note to the rightists,Clinton was one of the best presidents we`ve had,and America agrees.

I know it helps in coping with 7 - 8 years of failure,incompetence and disaster after disaster(by Bush) to scapegoat Clinton,but it`s getting old.And it doesn`t really help,or take the heat off of republicans.

Did Chelsae hang a dog at camp?Did Bill fire a cop, for not "playing nicey-nice" over the matter?

Did Bill pro-actively campaign the Arkansas parole board, to have a serial rapist released,only to have that same criminal rape and murder a young lady?

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tag/bill-clinton-and-mike-huckabee

'So while Huckabee continues to rise in the polls, Dumond's victims are left with questions as to why the former Arkansas Governor did what he did.'

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/12/04/documents-expose-huckabee_n_75362.html

The woman who was raped by Dumond while her 3-year-old daughter lay beside her tells the Huffington Post that one day she worked up the nerve to call Ashley Stevens to tell her how sorry she was. The two began to discuss their shared trauma.
"It was when I first began talking to Ashley that I began to heal," the woman said.
When Huckabee pushed through Dumond's parole, she says, "It was like he believed we were lying and Dumond was telling the truth. I wish he would now say in front of the entire world whether we told the truth or lied. And if he believes we told the truth, explain why he did what he did."
In 2001, the woman ran into Huckabee in her hometown. She wanted to know if he had any regrets in light of the Missouri murders.
"He was down here on a fishing trip," she recalled, "He was in one of the convenience stores and I went in to get me a Coke. And I went up and spoke to him.
"And all he said was, `How are you doing?' That was it."

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After the last performance,anyone doing half as good as Bill Clinton did,would be a huge improvement.

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RE: Huckabee,Huckabee`s son,a hanged dog,and a fired co... - 12/21/2007 7:03:58 AM

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Deliberate harming animals is a sure sign of sociopathy; goes to show, Hucka's not that good at raising his own kids.

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RE: Huckabee,Huckabee`s son,a hanged dog,and a fired co... - 12/21/2007 7:26:51 AM

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I am not talking about the Bush presidency at all Owner. I have no love for the Bush Jr. administration. I am not voting for Huckabee in the primaries, but I get a little angry when someone constantly talks about how great Clinton was, then bashes Huckabee. I lived through both of their governorships here, and I can tell you that Huckabee did a damn better job than Clinton. I really don't understand the love people have for him and his wife. They are both sociopathic liars.

The reason Clinton didn't ever consider Dumond's parole is because Dumond's victim was his cousin. Clinton's successor and friend Jim Guy Tucker made it possible for Dumond to be paroled earlier when he commuted his sentence. He did that shortly before he was convicted of a felony and had to leave office in disgrace. There was questionable DNA evidence that pointed to Dumond being innocent. No one was calling his victims liars. But there have been several incidents where rape victims fingered the wrong guy. All of that being said, Huckabee did not push though Dumond's parole. The parole board in this state is not under the direction of the governor. He can make suggestions, but he holds no sway over what they do. The parole board in this state has been blaming him, because they fucked up. Arkansas is and always has been controlled by Democrats. We have a good 'ol boy system down here, and they have done everything from fixing elections to murder to hold on to power.

As I said before, I am not voting for Huckabee in the primary. But if it comes down to Huckabee and Hillary, you better believe I will vote for Huckabee. I can not stand the damn Clintons. I don't care what the majority of Americans think. Most of the ones polled probably never voted anyway. The Clinton's were sleaze personified. I will take almost anyone else besides Hillary. I don't want another 8 years of those scumbags in the White House.

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RE: Huckabee,Huckabee`s son,a hanged dog,and a fired co... - 12/21/2007 7:36:36 AM

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Owner, Clinton along with Bush are the two *worst* presidents this country has ever had.
Clinton made America a laughingstock around the world, he took "credit" for the economy which was largely caused by another "Bill", Bill Gates, and he was Impeached in disgrace.
He took "responsibility" for nothing.
Also, it appears that he was a Criminal Serial Rapist going back many years; why didn't he finish schooling under the "Rhodes Scholar Program?
Also when he found out that his Reserve Military unit was going to Vietnam he got some General to get him out of it and "resigned" from that unit. Hardley the actions of an "Alpha Male."
I laugh when some people try to call Bill Clinton an "Alpha Male", all you have to do is mention his draft dodging and they say; "Oh."
LOL.
Oh, Clinton did give us that collosal mistake called "NAFTA."
If Clinton were in the private sector he'd be disbarred selling Isuzus in Arkansas by now or probably in prison given his propensity to rape women. And then there's his drug problem. His own brother said of him; "When it comes to cocaine, Bill has a nose like a Hoover vacuum cleaner!" And you can tell by looking at his nose with all the broken blood vessels on it that long time cocaine users get when he forgets to go to makup before an appearance.
Even President Carter said of the Clintons; "they're despicable human beings."
And anytime the Clintons go to their place in Killarney, Ireland they always hang around with another of their neighbors there who's a coke-head, "BONO." He's been known to "forget his makeup" too.
I wonder how many rehabs he's been to?
I don't understand how people who are drug users think they can "hide it " especially if they're in the public eye.
As much as I dislike Bush at least he "suited up" even if he didn't "show up" for the last year of his committment.
But that's the only good thing about him.
America doesn't agree.
I'm not making this stuff up.

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RE: Huckabee,Huckabee`s son,a hanged dog,and a fired co... - 12/21/2007 8:22:19 AM

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I am not talking about the Bush presidency at all Owner. I have no love for the Bush Jr. administration. I am not voting for Huckabee in the primaries, but I get a little angry when someone constantly talks about how great Clinton was, then bashes Huckabee. I lived through both of their governorships here, and I can tell you that Huckabee did a damn better job than Clinton. I really don't understand the love people have for him and his wife. They are both sociopathic liars.

The reason Clinton didn't ever consider Dumond's parole is because Dumond's victim was his cousin. Clinton's successor and friend Jim Guy Tucker made it possible for Dumond to be paroled earlier when he commuted his sentence. He did that shortly before he was convicted of a felony and had to leave office in disgrace. There was questionable DNA evidence that pointed to Dumond being innocent. No one was calling his victims liars. But there have been several incidents where rape victims fingered the wrong guy. All of that being said, Huckabee did not push though Dumond's parole. The parole board in this state is not under the direction of the governor. He can make suggestions, but he holds no sway over what they do. The parole board in this state has been blaming him, because they fucked up. Arkansas is and always has been controlled by Democrats. We have a good 'ol boy system down here, and they have done everything from fixing elections to murder to hold on to power.

As I said before, I am not voting for Huckabee in the primary. But if it comes down to Huckabee and Hillary, you better believe I will vote for Huckabee. I can not stand the damn Clintons. I don't care what the majority of Americans think. Most of the ones polled probably never voted anyway. The Clinton's were sleaze personified. I will take almost anyone else besides Hillary. I don't want another 8 years of those scumbags in the White House.

The reason Clinton didn't ever consider Dumond's parole is because Dumond's victim was his cousin.

There are some that speculate that the reason Dumond was paroled,was to punish/get at Bill Clinton , by releasing his cousins rapist.

See the irony? Bill is accused of rape(falsely),and a real rapist is released after Bill`s cousin(a real victim of that crime) is called a liar.Is this an Arkansas thing?

Yup,Arkansas politics is cut throat and down right mean.Clinton`s enemies there,came to Washington with him(with their Arkansas ways),and got a warm, comfortable welcome by Newt and the neo-cons.

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RE: Huckabee,Huckabee`s son,a hanged dog,and a fired co... - 12/21/2007 8:36:00 AM

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Yeah Owner, it must be the "VAST" right wing conspiracy out to "get" the Clintons!

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RE: Huckabee,Huckabee`s son,a hanged dog,and a fired co... - 12/21/2007 9:02:22 AM

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There are some that speculate that the reason Dumond was paroled,was to punish/get at Bill Clinton , by releasing his cousins rapist.

See the irony? Bill is accused of rape(falsely),and a real rapist is released after Bill`s cousin(a real victim of that crime) is called a liar.Is this an Arkansas thing?

Yup,Arkansas politics is cut throat and down right mean.Clinton`s enemies there,came to Washington with him(with their Arkansas ways),and got a warm, comfortable welcome by Newt and the neo-cons.

Well the people that are speculating that may want to take a look at the Arkansas Parole Board. Almost all of them were appointed by Clinton and Jim Guy Tucker. Clinton got as warm as a welcome from Republicans as Reagan got from Democrats. The big difference is that you never heard Reagan whining about it as much as the Clintons. He certainly never fabricated a vast left wing conspiracy to be the root of his problems.

Clinton was falsely accused of rape how many times? How many women have come forward and accused him of making inappropriate, sometimes violent sexual advances towards them? Of course all of those gals were just poor trailer trash, so their view of the incident doesn't matter right?

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RE: Huckabee,Huckabee`s son,a hanged dog,and a fired co... - 12/21/2007 9:09:34 AM

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Yeah Owner, it must be the "VAST" right wing conspiracy out to "get" the Clintons!

Yup,there was Linda Tripp working with Ken Starr while working with Ann Coulter,while working with Paula Jones(and her frivolous law suit),who was working with the Rutherford Institute ,who was working with FoxNews and the American Spectator,who was funded to the tune of millions by Richard Mellon Scaife .

Spent millions, employing hundreds, to attack and meline the Clintons,for 8 years.They got their money`s worth.

How much bigger does it need to be,to be called vast?

Sounds pretty vast,to me.

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RE: Huckabee,Huckabee`s son,a hanged dog,and a fired co... - 12/21/2007 9:33:26 AM

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There are some that speculate that the reason Dumond was paroled,was to punish/get at Bill Clinton , by releasing his cousins rapist.

See the irony? Bill is accused of rape(falsely),and a real rapist is released after Bill`s cousin(a real victim of that crime) is called a liar.Is this an Arkansas thing?

Yup,Arkansas politics is cut throat and down right mean.Clinton`s enemies there,came to Washington with him(with their Arkansas ways),and got a warm, comfortable welcome by Newt and the neo-cons.

Well the people that are speculating that may want to take a look at the Arkansas Parole Board. Almost all of them were appointed by Clinton and Jim Guy Tucker. Clinton got as warm as a welcome from Republicans as Reagan got from Democrats. The big difference is that you never heard Reagan whining about it as much as the Clintons. He certainly never fabricated a vast left wing conspiracy to be the root of his problems.

Clinton was falsely accused of rape how many times? How many women have come forward and accused him of making inappropriate, sometimes violent sexual advances towards them? Of course all of those gals were just poor trailer trash, so their view of the incident doesn't matter right?

The one`s I saw,were getting some sort of consideration or payment for their story,which kills their credibility.

That kind of question,is the type you never want an answer to.Ya`ll like the mystery,it`s the gift that keeps giving.

Is there a police report?A witness?After 8 years of well funded(at tax payer`s expense,btw)GOP bullshit and aimless expeditions into the Clintons,there would be proof of a crime.Right?

The Clintons are the most investigated people in America.No one`s been more vetted or had more government lawyer`s,government investigator`s,FBI agent`s,etc.man-hours,and government money spent on them.There`s nothing there,and Ken Starr(un-wittingly) proved it.

Imagine if all that money(multi-millions) and those agents and investigator`s time(hundreds of thousands of man-hours) had been spent on something worth while.Like,I don`t know, terrorism?Would 9/11, have been prevented?

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RE: Huckabee,Huckabee`s son,a hanged dog,and a fired co... - 12/21/2007 9:47:39 AM

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Imagine if all that money(multi-millions) and those agents and investigator`s time(hundreds of thousands of man-hours) had been spent on something worth while.Like,I don`t know, terrorism?Would 9/11, have been prevented?

Imagine if Clinton would have accepted Sudan's offer to handover Osama Bin Laden in the 90's. 9/11 may not have happened. They had him, and they offered him up on a silver platter. Clinton turned them down.

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RE: Huckabee,Huckabee`s son,a hanged dog,and a fired co... - 12/21/2007 9:56:47 AM

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Imagine if all that money(multi-millions) and those agents and investigator`s time(hundreds of thousands of man-hours) had been spent on something worth while.Like,I don`t know, terrorism?Would 9/11, have been prevented?

Imagine if Clinton would have accepted Sudan's offer to handover Osama Bin Laden in the 90's. 9/11 may not have happened. They had him, and they offered him up on a silver platter. Clinton turned them down.

Silly neo-cons... tricks are for kids,not grown adults.tsk,tsk..

You must be from Arkansas.lol

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RE: Huckabee,Huckabee`s son,a hanged dog,and a fired co... - 12/21/2007 10:50:56 AM

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Owner, the Clintons are low lifes and scumbags.
You might just as well go down to the beach and shovel sand against the tide as to try to defend them.
What's in that for (you?)
They'd run you over in a limo if they were late for dinner.

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RE: Huckabee,Huckabee`s son,a hanged dog,and a fired co... - 12/21/2007 12:40:29 PM

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Silly neo-cons... tricks are for kids,not grown adults.tsk,tsk..

You must be from Arkansas.lol

You're right, we're not as enlightened as you fine folks in the paradise of New Jersey. Y'all licked all your corruption problems years ago after all.

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RE: Huckabee,Huckabee`s son,a hanged dog,and a fired co... - 12/21/2007 12:48:59 PM

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During a February 2002 speech, Clinton explained that he turned down an offer from Sudan for bin Laden's extradition to the U.S., saying, "At the time, 1996, he had committed no crime against America, so I did not bring him here because we had no basis on which to hold him." listen to the audio http://archive.newsmax.com/audio/BILLVH.mp3

"The one`s I saw,were getting some sort of consideration or payment for their story,which kills their credibility. " Gonna hold to you to that standard.

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RE: Huckabee,Huckabee`s son,a hanged dog,and a fired co... - 12/21/2007 1:36:22 PM

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How did we start with a thread on Huckabee and end up with Clinton? Could it be that Huckabee is sooooo embarrassing as a potential Rep. candidate that Rep. posters try and harpoon the other side to shift the attention?

I think we should be told.

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