Termyn8or
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summer, don't feel bad about it. To me Christmas sucks. My position on the whole thing goes alot deeper than not being able to decorate. I don't let it depress me, but I get no joy out of it except for the day off. I respect Christians but I am not one. I am not a Jew either, nor a Muslim or anything, for me there is no diety. There may be something after corporeal death but I do not believe anything anyone says about it. Each of us eventually finds out the truth though, that's for sure. Let's just hope eventually is a long time. Joshua bar Joseph was a great Man and perhaps the greatest philosopher who ever lived. If everyone lived according to his teachings and beliefs the world would be a near utopia. But we do not, and it is not. So for me, celebrating Christmas would be hypocracy. It would be fake. I don't do fake. And there is more, alot more. First of all Jesus was not born on December 25th, and I will use the words Jesus and Christ out of respect, but I do not believe nor accept the tenets of Christianity. This holiday was declared, and it was declared to coincide with what they call a pagan ritual, a practice going back before Christianity. It was the celebration of the winter solistace, and was for good reason, it was finally going to start getting warmer soon. Easter is similarly derived from ancient cultures, adopted to appease those who were forced to convert to Christianity. And there were many. And the people who invented Christ, the Jews have had to deal with it as well. It came down, in France a long time ago, it was accept Christ or die. That's when they invented the Kol Nidre. Attacked by racists and bigots quite a bit, the Kol Nidre says something about them. If you want to lie, just lie, fuck it, but if you need a prayer to lie, a lie that saves your life or your livelyhood, you probably would rather be honest. That says alot. Ideologically I am close to the Jewish mindset. They do have a few things going for them. But they were still the impetus for killing Jesus. Sure they had the Romans do it, but so what. We are alike in that I don't accept, pretty much the same things they don't accept. I am a Man, as such I accept what I do and I reject what I reject. I reject the idea of universal forgiveness, that can only be given by a victim to a victimizer. Kind of a good reason not to kill eh ? I not only reject universal forgiveness for me, I hope to hell nobody gets it. If you wronged me or hurt me, I want you on the next rack in hell with the devil going over our respective lists of wrongs. I will take mine as long as everyone else gets theirs. How would I handle this if I had kids ? Not sure. Would I get them gifts ? I think so but I think I would conciously avoid calling the Christmas gifts. The Bible does not say "Thou shalt go into debt on the proscribed day". Same for Bdays, all of it. They simply are not going to tell me when to express some charity. If I had kids, I think if anything I would stress giving. Take them out to the lower places, give a bum a winter coat and ten bucks. Let the kids see the look in his face. Experience giving. I am not a miser, far from it. But I'll be damnned if they tell me when to give. And I don't like the hype and the commercialism involved. It is too much. A great Man was put to death at the behest of his own people about 1,970 years ago. So on that Man's birthday, which isn't even his birthday we gotta go buy some punk kids the latest video gsames ? That simply does not wash with me. I could go along with an obsevance, or something, but the whole idea of exchanging gifts is foreign to me these days. You get someone a gift when you damn well please. That's the way I see it. T
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