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RE: High Protein, Low Carb Diet - 1/1/2008 5:45:33 PM   
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Proudsub, I'd LOVE a link to your support group...I'm really enjoying all this stuff you people offer. 

I'll have to email it to you, couldn't get it to come out as a link in here.

Level--I really respect you for the sucess you've had.  I know very low carb plans work for some people.  For me i have found SB much easier to live with in the long run, but i know when i add in too many whole grains i struggle, so i need to control that better.  I also like the way SB keeps my blood sugars even throughout the day.  I am doing all i can to prevent diabetes since it runs in my family.

Bev--good luck with whichever plan you choose, please keep in mind it needs to be a lifetime commitment, not a short term diet or you will gain it back.

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RE: High Protein, Low Carb Diet - 1/1/2008 6:03:32 PM   
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I am so glad to see this thread, I am really needing to get back on the "wagon" and seeing that others here are doing the same and are so enthusiastic about it and everyone offering their advice, tips, etc, etc... really helps!

Thanks for the recpes, links, etc... 


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RE: High Protein, Low Carb Diet - 1/1/2008 6:06:26 PM   
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Level--I really respect you for the sucess you've had.  I know very low carb plans work for some people.  For me i have found SB much easier to live with in the long run, but i know when i add in too many whole grains i struggle, so i need to control that better.  I also like the way SB keeps my blood sugars even throughout the day.  I am doing all i can to prevent diabetes since it runs in my family.

Thank you, good lady. And you're right, no one plan is perfect for everyone, and a lot of people have benefitted greatly from South Beach.

Bev--good luck with whichever plan you choose, please keep in mind it needs to be a lifetime commitment, not a short term diet or you will gain it back.

She's right!


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RE: High Protein, Low Carb Diet - 1/1/2008 6:10:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have also run all of my low carb recipes through nutritional anaylsis and will be happy to enclose that information with the recipes. MsBearlee, best of luck to you. Little to no carb diets don't work for everyone but then no plan does. Limited carb plans, for those without serious health issues who require little to no carb plans,
seem to be a better more live-able solution for the masses so to speak.
I wish you the best in your endeavour and don't look at it as a way to lose weight, but rather a way to be healthier. It is easier to stick to and keep with it long term if viewed in that light. Never use the word diet, it is such a failure word unless using it in other contexts. That word gives many the shivering shits, a feeling of never being allowed to have a ''cheat,'' and something that must be checked, counted, weighed and measured daily for life.

So MsBearlee, you're going to become more healthy in this new year eh??

Best of Luck,

EG

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RE: High Protein, Low Carb Diet - 1/1/2008 6:10:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		The reason high protein diets seem to work is that eating such foods reduces your overall appetite. There was a test conducted with fat people and a few thin people as controls.
They all eat less overall.

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RE: High Protein, Low Carb Diet - 1/1/2008 6:14:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		i was on the high protein low carb diet for four months a couple of years ago, i lost 40 pounds!  eating more protein made me feel full longer.
then my family and i went to Disney land and that blew it.  but i still try to eat very few carbs.
so far since last January, i have lost 50 pounds

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RE: High Protein, Low Carb Diet - 1/1/2008 6:24:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		Be aware of the risks because when you cut bits out of your diet there are risks, I forget what these risks are but I think one of them is pubic hair growing out of your tongue.
 
Seriously be carefull.

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RE: High Protein, Low Carb Diet - 1/1/2008 6:30:09 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Pernicious

The reason high protein diets seem to work is that eating such foods reduces your overall appetite. There was a test conducted with fat people and a few thin people as controls.
They all eat less overall.


There is huge credible science out there on this subject and that is not why low to no carb plans work. Although that is a part of the reason it isn't the entire story. I will drag out the information and post it.

Best,

EG

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RE: High Protein, Low Carb Diet - 1/1/2008 6:50:53 PM   
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http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/12/071203091236.htm

Though these studies have not evaluated the long term effects, and as with any science, some research groups found different results for different segments, they remain clear on the weight loss effect and the effect on metabolic systems as well as cholesterol and other factors.

Duke and Stanford Universities have accomplished the bulk of studies on these low carb diets and most used the Atkins plan for the studies.

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RE: High Protein, Low Carb Diet - 1/1/2008 7:01:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		i lost 200 lbs low carbing not south beach a better one

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RE: High Protein, Low Carb Diet - 1/1/2008 7:25:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		Low carb works because at a molecular level, your body need simple sugars to make energy (ATP).   If you're not taking in carbs (sugars, and starches that break down into sugars), your body burns long term energy (stored fat).   Because of this process, you'll lose weight, but don't be surprised if your energy level is low for a while.

However, this does not mean you can eat anything you want as long as it's low carb.   High fats (especially animal-based fats) are still bad for you, and an excess will still be stored as fat on your body.

Your best bet?   Eat plenty of lean meats (chicken, fish) and low carb veggies (especially salad greens except iceberg lettuce, brocolli, cauliflower, red bell peppers); limit your fat intake to recommended serving sizes of things like salad dressing, a teaspoon of olive oil to cook with, etc.   Avoid processed meats like bacon, sausage, deli meat.  A little milk for your coffee is better than heavy cream.  Fresh vegetables and lower carb fruits in their whole uncooked forms are the best  -  avoid canned, dried, or otherwise processed.  Frozen plain veggies are ok in a pinch (and handy).  

If you do chose to do Atkins....read the book, read the book, read the book.   Read the book.  Did I mention - read the book?  Most people who do Atkins do not, and miss a lot of necessary information, like steak once a week is ok but NOT every night. 

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RE: High Protein, Low Carb Diet - 1/1/2008 7:35:24 PM   
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However, this does not mean you can eat anything you want as long as it's low carb.   High fats (especially animal-based fats) are still bad for you, and an excess will still be stored as fat on your body.

Not true, unless you're eating excess carbs with them.

Your best bet?   Eat plenty of lean meats (chicken, fish) and low carb veggies (especially salad greens except iceberg lettuce, brocolli, cauliflower, red bell peppers); limit your fat intake to recommended serving sizes of things like salad dressing, a teaspoon of olive oil to cook with, etc.   Avoid processed meats like bacon, sausage, deli meat.  A little milk for your coffee is better than heavy cream.  Fresh vegetables and lower carb fruits in their whole uncooked forms are the best  -  avoid canned, dried, or otherwise processed.  Frozen plain veggies are ok in a pinch (and handy).  

If you do chose to do Atkins....read the book, read the book, read the book.   Read the book.  Did I mention - read the book?  Most people who do Atkins do not, and miss a lot of necessary information, like steak once a week is ok but NOT every night. 

When did Dr Atkins say that? And he certainly would not have agreed with the statement about animal fats....



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RE: High Protein, Low Carb Diet - 1/1/2008 7:38:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		When you eat protien its harder to digest than carbs so your fuller longer it also takes more energy to digest it, also = more calories burned

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RE: High Protein, Low Carb Diet - 1/1/2008 9:07:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		Fangs… thanks for the meal ideas…now THAT sounded Paleo!  LOL   No wonder they call ya ‘Fangs’!    Lordy, I’m having sooooo much fun with this: I had a steak for dinner!

Level, I’m a reader…you’ve given me several books to hunt for.  I love Amazon, where I can get ‘em half-priced (or better) used.  Such a deal!  Thank you so much!!!  Ah, and what you said about Dr. Agatston; makes sense; and perhaps for most people some grain, in moderation, is okay, huh?

EG, I’m sorry to hear of your troubles…but if you just picked a recipe or two and shared them HERE…a whole bunch of us would appreciate it!  Yes, I DO plan to get healthier and feel MUCH better…and real soon, too!

proud, thank you so much for your help!  I realize you are committed to the SBD, but I have to tell you it is SO refreshing to watch you and Level discuss your differences!  Congratulations to you both!  Dang…online AND adult!  LOL    I’ve not yet read the Atkins book (or the Paleo one, for that matter)…but is it possible at least the two main ones we’ve discussed here are fairly similar once a person is into ‘maintenance’?  I wonder…

 LeMis… ME TOO!  This could be GREAT!  I want to see an occasional favorite recipe, too!  Did you see that link I posted earlier?  There are some 15 pages here…all about Low Carb!  Awesome…  Kinky people are soooooooo cool!!!

MsB

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RE: High Protein, Low Carb Diet - 1/1/2008 9:32:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'd be happy to post some recipes here though I would need a vague idea as to what people are looking for. Thank you regarding my troubles though I go on. Two options to anyone's life; go on and live or give up. I suppose I was not one to throw in the towel.

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RE: High Protein, Low Carb Diet - 1/2/2008 6:21:19 AM   
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So, why is it these diets 'get rid of belly-fat' first?  Because of the ketosis (sp?) thing?  Last place of deposit is the first place of loss? 
 
Okay...I'm off to eat scrambled eggs w/cheese (and a pinch of fresh chopped jalapeno).
 
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RE: High Protein, Low Carb Diet - 1/2/2008 6:38:54 AM   
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RE: High Protein, Low Carb Diet - 1/2/2008 6:43:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: dominapain
i lost 200 lbs low carbing not south beach a better one 


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i eat 30 to 50 grams of carbs a day and lift weights went from a 52 inch waist to 32 and still loosing 


I'm happy for you.  Are you going to actually join in the discussion or are you just going to tell us your way is the best way...several times...and leave it at that? 
 
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RE: High Protein, Low Carb Diet - 1/2/2008 7:29:56 AM   
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So, why is it these diets 'get rid of belly-fat' first?  Because of the ketosis (sp?) thing?  Last place of deposit is the first place of loss? 


I can't answer that.  For me, i lost all over, but Hubby did lose his belly but that's where all His fat was.

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Okay...I'm off to eat scrambled eggs w/cheese (and a pinch of fresh chopped jalapeno). 
 


I love to mix in all kinds of goodies with my eggs--some of my favorites are spinach, turkey pepperoni, feta cheese, mushrooms, Laughting Cow cheese, fresh basil, green onions, sun dried tomatoes, and kalamati olives.


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RE: High Protein, Low Carb Diet - 1/2/2008 8:11:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		i have really learned alot reading this thread, thanks to all for that
Happy New Year, and best of luck to all of You...


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