Padriag
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Do you not think those that wish to be a member of a specific group representative of the group?
I see no reason to reinvent the wheel. If you can hang with the program fine..if not, you must be in the wrong place.
I have no problem with a specific club or other organization, having some form of charter and some form of leadership and governance, establishing rules regarding membership. Want to make it men only, women only, whites only, blacks only, etc. I can understand and support a groups right to establish certain standards of membership, codes of behavior, etc. I can even fully agree with their right to exclude anyone who doesn't fit their criteria, whatever that criteria may be.
And that's about as far as I can agree with what you wrote...
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I find the young'uns (20's-30's) fight structure more than the older ones.. I know..I was young once and I made a fool of myself back then just like kids do today. The cries are "You are all just close minded! I'm just doing it differently!.. and the "YOU JUST DON'T GET IT!"
Another wonderfully broad statement that will immediately draw lots of exceptions. Some people actually are doing things differently and this may come as a surprise to you, but that's okay. Just as I can support a club or organization to say,"This is how we do things, if you want to join our club you have to do it this way." I equally support someone else's right to say,"Fuck off, I don't need your rules, and I might just start a club of my own." But two things I don't support are a) someone trying to say they are part of a club when they aren't (that's just lying), or b) someone pretentiously assuming their club's rules can be applied to everyone, including non-members.
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I feel where this comes from is the coming of age where we feel we need to make a mark on something..ANYTHING! And the more outlandish the better. Ok.., we see you..we hear you..because we've been there. We've also learned that at times a person just doesn't fit into a situation. But saying THEY'RE wrong to justify themselves is also a crock.
You also might consider that that last sentence cuts two ways.
The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently. -- Nietzsche
If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away. -- Henry David Thoreau
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Face it.. we have stolen and bastardized this "lifestyle" from the gay male community .. it was theirs to begin with
Oh really, I was unaware they held the copyright or patent. I wonder what the Marquis de Sade would think of that? Or those brazen old Romen men... or the Greeks before them. People have been doing kinky things to each other for probably about as long as there have been people. How utterly arrogant of you to assume any one group has ownership of that.
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Live it as you will.. but call it something else.. because what it has become is one big joke.
Well that's your opinion, if it bothers you so much feel free to find your own path, march to your own drummer, form your own club, organization, secret society, public dungeon or whatever you feel inspired to do. But if you think your little rant is going to change hearts and minds, you're in for a rude shock. No one, not you, not I, not aging leathermen, not that naughty marquis, not even those libertine greeks has a right to claim ownership of a lifestyle. You want to own a term for something, apply for a trademark. Until such is granted its in the public domain and people can use it however they please.
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Thank god for TNG :) They took the initiative and created their own situation. While they thought the older group was blocking them out..they understood the situation. They didn't keep going to the older groups and crying that there wasn't anything there for them. They saw a need for their own and filled it.
So now we come to it, what you really want is for all those who don't think, talk and act the way you think they should... which is to say they don't live up to your standards... you'd like them to be so kind as to call themselves something else, go somewhere else and stop intruding on your one true way fantasy. My... how very inconsiderate of everyone else not to live the way you want. You'll excuse me while I intrude a little reality, but life just doesn't work that way. This "lifestyle" is made up of countless individuals with a myriad array of kinks, fetishes and interests, all pursuing their own personal goals in whatever way they think suits them best. That there is much confusion amongst terminology used, just who is who and who wants what from whom... that I will not deny. Such is life, and you'd better get used to it because I find it very unlikely the world is going to change all that just to suit you.
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You will never understand this situation until time has passed and you look back on it all. Try not to be TOO embarrassed :) It happens to us all.
That was an utterly snobbish, arrogant, condescending, patronizing thing to say to anyone. But hey, at least you already seem to be familiar with doing embarassing things.
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A stern discipline pervades all nature, which is a little cruel so that it may be very kind - Edmund Spencer
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