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RE: Intuition and a Story About Being Safe - 8/24/2005 5:01:43 AM

Gauge

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Today i found out from a woman that a man on-site was lying

Someone lied??? On the Internet??? :::::GASP:::::

You know, you ask for your thread about this sort of thing to be pulled but a few days later post yet another thread of male bashing.

Violence does not distinguish gender, even if you think it does.

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RE: Intuition and a Story About Being Safe - 8/24/2005 5:04:35 AM

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I believe in and rely on my intuition.

I was simply saying that unless individuals have actually met and observed each other, all online talk is just that--talk.

perversangelic

angelic...you are forgetting that the purpose of his "talk" was to persuade me to meet him..away from my home turf...etc.

It was intuition that i used at the time to decide not to accept any of his invitations.

The woman i spoke to who described being abused by him struck me intuitively as speaking truthfully. i cannot "prove" it; i cannot even expect someone who rejects intuition to accept that i might have a reasonable basis for believing her.

However i DO believe her, and i'm damned glad i never agreed to meet him.

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RE: Intuition and a Story About Being Safe - 8/24/2005 5:12:50 AM

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ORIGINAL: pinkpleasures

Lastly Faramir, Your points and posts would be taken more seriously if You did not seem to feel the impluse to insult E/everyone with whom You disagree.

I take Faramir's posts "seriously" because I've been reading them long enough (both on here and another BDSM site) to know that he's an intelligent, thoughtful and decent person. For you to try to intimate that his posts aren't taken seriously isn't going to have the desired affect. I think he has a lot more confidence in himself than that. Good try though. Next time you might try picking on the weak and less self-assured. They're easier to pick off.

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RE: Intuition and a Story About Being Safe - 8/24/2005 5:13:36 AM

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Any individual(s) that claim to know anything about another person and has not met them in r/l, interacted with them has no leg to stand on....so to speak. I have heard more he said/she said bullshit than most will in a lifetime(ok, maybe not a lifetime, just feels that way)it's not real unless i know them(in r/l).

smilezz

This is not a he said/she said thread. i have not identified the man and have no intention of doing so. This is a thread about intuition, and making decisions based on intuition. i can only assume you reject intuition as the basis for decision-making, smilezz. That's ok..we don't have to agree. i personally think P/pl have pretty much made up their minds as to whether intuition has any place in T/their decision-making; and possibly not E/everyone gets the "creeps" about someone else, based on intuition.

pinkpleasures

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RE: Intuition and a Story About Being Safe - 8/24/2005 5:21:51 AM

pinkpleasures

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You know, you ask for your thread about this sort of thing to be pulled but a few days later post yet another thread of male bashing.

Violence does not distinguish gender, even if you think it does.

Gauge

i forget now how often i have apologised for the statement i made about men not fully appreciating the dangers women face. i apologised to Veav; to MrThorns; and now i apologise again to Gauge.

They are all correct; the safety of men is as much a legitimate concern as the safety of women.

pinkpleasures

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RE: Intuition and a Story About Being Safe - 8/24/2005 5:31:03 AM

pinkpleasures

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I take Faramir's posts "seriously" because I've been reading them long enough (both on here and another BDSM site) to know that he's an intelligent, thoughtful and decent person. For you to try to intimate that his posts aren't taken seriously isn't going to have the desired affect. I think he has a lot more confidence in himself than that. Good try though. Next time you might try picking on the weak and less self-assured. They're easier to pick off.

MsInconito

Ma'am, just as a practice, A/anyone's post is better written without insults.

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RE: Intuition and a Story About Being Safe - 8/24/2005 7:20:12 AM

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i forget now how often i have apologised for the statement i made about men not fully appreciating the dangers women face. i apologised to Veav; to MrThorns; and now i apologise again to Gauge.

They are all correct; the safety of men is as much a legitimate concern as the safety of women.

Not to belabor a point, but this begs the question if you later apologize for your statements, then why do you continually make them? In this and other threads you have the tendency to say the same thing every time and then backpedaled and retract a statement and offer apologies. Learn from mistakes, don't continually repeat them.

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RE: Intuition and a Story About Being Safe - 8/24/2005 7:31:59 AM

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Not to belabor a point, but this begs the question if you later apologize for your statements, then why do you continually make them? In this and other threads you have the tendency to say the same thing every time and then backpedaled and retract a statement and offer apologies. Learn from mistakes, don't continually repeat them.

Gauge

Sir; i do try to respect E/everyone; i try very hard. i am sometimes surprised by what P/pl take offense at; and in such cases, i have no other course of action but to apologise. i imagine such P/pl realise there was no malice in what i wrote that they took offense at -- or at least i hope so. i am trying to "fine tune" my writing so as to be as inoffensive as possible whilst still holding and expressing views.

Does that answer Your question, Sir?

pinkpleasures

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RE: Intuition and a Story About Being Safe - 8/24/2005 10:01:19 AM

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Faramior..i said in the Op post that i knew some P/pl would never accept that intuition was a valid basis for making a decision. That's a perfectly acceptable position to take, and i also said in the Op post that i had no need nor intention to debate intuition with such P/pl. i guess it's different for E/eeryone; possibly You have never experiened a sense of ill-at-ease without knowing exactly why, and based on that, departed.

The Op post had nothing to do with "men are evil". It could just have easily been another fem subby i was slated to meet and did not. The Op post was about the value of intuition...so i suppose if You feel that intuition is worthless, we won't see You posting here anymore.

pinkpleasures

well said hon

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RE: Intuition and a Story About Being Safe - 8/24/2005 10:18:24 AM

RiotGirl

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Not to belabor a point, but this begs the question if you later apologize for your statements, then why do you continually make them? In this and other threads you have the tendency to say the same thing every time and then backpedaled and retract a statement and offer apologies. Learn from mistakes, don't continually repeat them.

Gauge

Sir; i do try to respect E/everyone; i try very hard. i am sometimes surprised by what P/pl take offense at; and in such cases, i have no other course of action but to apologise. i imagine such P/pl realise there was no malice in what i wrote that they took offense at -- or at least i hope so. i am trying to "fine tune" my writing so as to be as inoffensive as possible whilst still holding and expressing views.

Does that answer Your question, Sir?

though while he does have a valid point. i'm gonna make another one. its taken me along time to realise the "dos" and "donts" of this forum. What goes over well and what doesnt. i realised, i'm not gonna change it. So i just putter along not giving two wits really. i try to think before i respond, but if i respond with what i feel and say it how i feel, ppl can go to hell if they dont like it. I AM ME. Some wont like me, some will, some will despise me, some wont. Some will think i'm a bipolar nut and disregard anything i say, using it against me with my posts. Some will think i make valid points and am insightful. So dooooooooont worry about it. And i've blatantly said oh so not so nice things to ppl. When Darth was here, whoooooooo weeeee.. i layed it out on him. thought he was absolutely nuts. With Fangs, i wasnt very friendly either when i saw one of his first posts. Didnt like Faramir when i first saw him on the boards and still dont like Sir ken. Thats okay, i'm gonna say what i say, feel what i feel and i'm not gonna apologize for telling some one they're out to lunch if i feel it so.

Cos i am entitled to feel what i feel. They're MY FEELINGS. And i know, that no matter HOW hard i try, i'm always going to offend or insult some one, some how. Nothing i can do about it. So if some one gets in a snivel about it, thats THEIR problem, not mine. Yup i might get ignored, and looked at oddly.. and i might get insulted and ppl might think whatever they want to think about me. But thats okay. Cos thats THEIR FEELINGS. They're entitled to it. i oddly, DONT feel insulted, or upset. Cos well, i've no control over how they're gonna feel or react. not my business really.

But i do try and think through what i'm gonna say, make sure i REALLY want to say it and if i change my mind about something or some one, i try to own up to it. Like you. Personally i think it takes more of an adult to own up to your mistakes then to keep trying to pretend you were right and fight a battle you know you're wrong in. Like Darth, still think he's out to lunch, but he's a pretty cool guy. Tho we dont agree on everything, i'm friends with him and his. And my first impression of Fangs was wrong. Still undecided about Farmire <wicked grin>

So really all it comes down too.. Just be you sweetie. You're an awesome gal and if they dont like it, screw em. You're new and your eager and all excited. If anyone knows anything about the lifestyle, they should understand. And if they dont, well ya dont need em anyways, now do ya? (God knows i jumped into this board with both feet not looking to see if there was water.. lololol) Luckily they put up with me long enough to realise i wasnt all that bad!

Take the good, leave the bad.

(and i hope i didnt stray from my orginal point of posting this!) hells bells if i did.. just another post from RG rambling! LOLOLOL

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RE: Intuition and a Story About Being Safe - 8/24/2005 10:56:01 AM

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You've made some good points riotgirl. And while she is new, she joined Dec. 2004 (check the nick fillepink), and if that was her first nick.

I think the gist of what people are trying to say is that, she seems to be making a habit of foot in mouth statements. She goes on about this or that, then runs after herself to clean it up...continually. No one, that I can see, is just trying to be mean. Just that perhaps I'm sorry, is getting old... when the person just keeps doing the same thing over and over.

I can speak from some experience, as I've had my mailbox filled with person's e-mails asking me to ...delete my posts, not say anything else, please let it stop.... in effort to wipe away a thread. I stand by what I say. Period. If I edit a post, it is either to add something to it, or fix a spelling error (I try to catch them all...), not to erase a blunder, or pretend something didn't happen.

I am not rehashing a big bunch of mess, but I've actually tried to understand it, I've gone through and looked at a good portion of her posts....that she hasn't deleted.... and tried to understand thought process, and just keep seeing the same things over and over.

And by the way, I am sorry if this seems terribly harsh to some people..... I just say it like it is. Faramir.... I happen to enjoy reading his, and many many others posts.... they are straight forward, not drama ridden. It's nice.
Oh yeah, disclaimer here.... because believe it or not... this will probably be necessary... I will respond here... not in private e-mail, so think before you send. Thank you. I've nothing to hide, and I expect you shouldn't either if you send me something.

Ok.... I'm ready...pulls out the umbrella...smiles...

Sincerely,
Tempest's pet
jennifer

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RE: Intuition and a Story About Being Safe - 8/24/2005 11:25:10 AM

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This warning goes to everyone participating.The OP is about instincts,so lets keep a focus on the original observations.One more flame or defensive remark and the post will be locked.

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RE: Intuition and a Story About Being Safe - 8/24/2005 1:35:08 PM

pinkpleasures

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Mod Ten, i feel this way:

1st, the boards are for exchanging ideas..some P/pl will fight over them, but they are still ideas.

2nd, private email is for speaking to someone who has hurt your feelings, etc.

i have tried hard to preserve this distinction, but not always successfully, i admit.

Nevertheless i still feel personality conflicts do not belong on the boards.
As for me, i am trying to appease P/pl and it appears that's impossible. So from now on, i will ignore what is personal and inflamatory, and respond to ideas. i will of course correct myself when i feel someone has persuaded me to look at things a new way.

That is, after all, the purpose of exchanging ideas.

If this mode of operating fails to meet Your approval, please advise.

pinkpleasures

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RE: Intuition and a Story About Being Safe - 8/24/2005 1:59:54 PM

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Yes, I am Gordon Freeman. Accept this, and move on with your life.

The only question I have is... who is Gordon Freeman?
Is this a character in a computer game?
I looked at the images you had linked to this name, and that is the best guess I could come up with.

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RE: Intuition and a Story About Being Safe - 8/24/2005 3:45:44 PM

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i can only assume you reject intuition as the basis for decision-making, smilezz. That's ok..we don't have to agree.

Actually pinkpleasures, i do trust my gut instinct on a few things, this just happens not to be that area is all....and yeah, we will have to agree to just disagree at times.

~smilezz~

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RE: Intuition and a Story About Being Safe - 8/24/2005 4:17:13 PM

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Yes, I am Gordon Freeman. Accept this, and move on with your life.

The only question I have is... who is Gordon Freeman?
Is this a character in a computer game?
I looked at the images you had linked to this name, and that is the best guess I could come up with.

Just google the name and you will get a miriad of explainations.

He is a computer game charachter from the game 'Half Life'

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RE: Intuition and a Story About Being Safe - 8/24/2005 5:13:04 PM

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Again dark-angel this is not in reply to you, but hit the reply button on pinkpleasures op and it would not let me reply there. ok
pinkpleasures, I agree with you there is something to be said about following your intuition. When I first came to collar me was contacted by several men who wanted me to go to florida, california, and many other states and yes even talked to some of them for at least a week, but usually by the end of the first conversation knew they weren't what I was looking for, but figured talking with them would give me some experience with them. Than the end of november met Master on line and knew almost right away that he was the one, but in the back of my head kept expecting him to change and he never did he stayed true to form we have now been rt for 8 months and weathered our first major crisis' not too long ago and all is well again in our world, anyway I have always or almost always followed my intuition and been happy to, the times I should have, nothing bad happened, but was difficult to get out of the situation without somekind of outside help. My late husband got so that he listened to my intuition too, after 16 yrs of marriage in the end he didn't and it cost him his life, sad to say.

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RE: Intuition and a Story About Being Safe - 8/25/2005 9:32:37 AM

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Eeek, i'm gonna get introuble. Hells bells. i completely know what your saying Tempest. i understand. i'm trying to work it from both ends. Actually. <grins> LOLOLOL i cant help but laugh! Hey, i'm one of those ppl whose tried to clean up a "mess" LOL What can i say, i'm emotionally impulsive. i think Pink is too. Aye but you do realise, i asked to wipe a way a thread soley on the point that it got waaaaaaaay to personal for me. i just wasnt all the comfortable being being as "out" as i was. And i must say, i'm getting tons better at it! i wasnt erasing blunders. i was trying to erase MYSELF. Which is why i went through and erased almost all of my posts at one time. i was erasing myself. Atleast any proof of myself! Aye, and you prolly keep seeing the same thing over and over, because what you are seeing is who we are. Atleast symptoms of it. Personally if some one has good intentions, to me thats what counts. Good heart, good intentions. Ooooo and as far as thinking before i send, i did say i was getting better didnt i? Only one post i wanted to destroy in a couple of months! And hey, i had a valid reason! Twas a double post <wicked grin> As for harsh to some ppl. Baaa, i'm sure they'll get over it. Heck who knows, they might find it amusing and be laughing like me!

<grins> i know what ya think. i've seen it in enough of your posts. Want to go out for coffee? <grins at you> You mind sharing that umbrella, gots a terrible storm hitting over here and i should be checking the mail soon. Whats the weather like there?

Like i told Master the other day......... i'm a baaaaaad baaaaaaaad girl.. baa baa. (aye i'm completely nutty, its amazing Dom's are still emailing me to check if i am still owned!) LOLOLOLOLOL ooo and ROFL

<back to your regular schedule programing>

Intution is good if you dont doubt yourself. Intuition is bad if you cant hear it!!

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RE: Intuition and a Story About Being Safe - 8/25/2005 10:28:52 AM

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Well... trouble follows us then doesn't it...laughs
hands her my spare umbrella....

Though in all seriousness.... I wasn't speaking of or to you at all in my post, sorry if it seemed that way. But to me.....(and this will become highly subjective from here out....)

flaming is when you name people, and then proceed to call them names and such

NOW...... to the Ops intent of thread....intuition.

I have a great sense of intuition. I am complimented on it quite frequently. (just to toot my own horn)*grins* Therefore I trust my intuition very much.
I'm not sure I don't believe everyone has intuition, I think they do. They just love drama soooo much, that they ignore those bells and sirens going off in their heads... and charge forward intuition be damned.

Sincerely,
Tempest's pet
jennifer

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RE: Intuition and a Story About Being Safe - 8/25/2005 12:32:33 PM

RiotGirl

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Well... trouble follows us then doesn't it...laughs
hands her my spare umbrella....

Though in all seriousness.... I wasn't speaking of or to you at all in my post, sorry if it seemed that way. But to me.....(and this will become highly subjective from here out....)

flaming is when you name people, and then proceed to call them names and such

NOW...... to the Ops intent of thread....intuition.

I have a great sense of intuition. I am complimented on it quite frequently. (just to toot my own horn)*grins* Therefore I trust my intuition very much.
I'm not sure I don't believe everyone has intuition, I think they do. They just love drama soooo much, that they ignore those bells and sirens going off in their heads... and charge forward intuition be damned.

Sincerely,
Tempest's pet
jennifer

Woo hooo! We've taken over the thread! Aye trouble follows me. We'el actually i'm told i find trouble like nobody's business. Same person said, they actually LIKE it cos after a long hard day at work, whats better then security gaurds chasing you around a night club trying to throw your drunk and horny butt out and you stopping along the way to kiss every sexy guy there is? LOL Bit more interesting if you're on a cruise.. and you got security chasing you there! Round and round we go. Not MY FAULT, if they're little dj didnt know how to dj and i felt the need to sneak into the booth to dj, now is it (repeatedly over and over and over LOL)

As for the thinking you were talking about me? Well i suppose i'm gonna have to go erase my post, email you and ask you to erase yours as well. lolololol Nah the only reason why it came to mind, as i've done that a few times. Once to you i think, asking if the subject can be dropped. Trying to destroy threads! Cmoooooooooon admit it, you know i have. Heck many know i have. Just look at all my little posts that say. (Ya aint got access)

Gee i'm a rambler...

Back to intuition. <wicked wicked girls>

i have intuition. Sometimes i doubt it. i am on the 3rd step of my 13th step program (yay i'm makin fun, cos i well i can, i got the rights, wanna see the paper?) Doubt is bad or good, because i think intuition can be affected by your own self issues. Like i'm sure not EVERY guy is out there to plop one in my hole, eh? Thank you thank you thank you for the umberalla Cos MY INTUITON tells me its raining (that and the ummmm.. rain hitting the window!)

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