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RE: Your stance on.. - 1/8/2008 3:02:08 PM

SeeksOnlyOne

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.... there isn't a longterm or short term physical problems with it.

So you would be willing to get on an airliner if you knew that both the pilot and copilot were going to be passing joints between each other all through the flight? If you aren't willing to do so then just maybe you do see a short term problem and maybe you should reconsider your position.

id get on their plane before getting on one with pilots that had been drinking......making it legal would not mean you could fly a plane stoned, any more than alcohol being legal makes it right for folks to fly right after drinking.

and it wouldnt bother me to know my pilot had gotten stoned the night before......but one with a hangover would terrify me.......

in case ya havent figured it out yet, i vote legalize it.....puff puff pass

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RE: Your stance on.. - 1/8/2008 3:07:13 PM

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I don't think it's a matter of how beneficial or detremental it is. It's a matter of adults making personal choices that affect themselves.

The argument for control only comes when a behaviour or substance affects others without their consent or when public safety is at risk.

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RE: Your stance on.. - 1/8/2008 3:19:08 PM

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Dear everyone,

Call this a social experiment so just remember this thread isn't about me but YOUR thoughts on the subject.

Your thoughts on marijuana...be it if you smoke, if you support its legality or of course if you don't.

That being said Im a supporter and have a huge problem that you can drink yourself to death in a night and your perfectly allowed to do so yet if vaporized or eaten there isn't a longterm or short term physical problems with it.

Discuss <3

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I smoked for about 7 years; it needs to be legal. And the fact that hemp is outlawed is moronic beyond belief.

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RE: Your stance on.. - 1/8/2008 3:41:54 PM

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I once smoked the entire GNP of several South and Central American countries. I don't any more...kinda lost it's sparkle for me. I think ALL drugs should be legal.it would eliminate a shit load of crime and if people wanna get fucked up.let em

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RE: Your stance on.. - 1/8/2008 3:44:03 PM

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I once smoked the entire GNP of several South and Central American countries.

Well THAT explains ALOT.

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RE: Your stance on.. - 1/8/2008 4:35:03 PM

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i don't smoke weed. Never plan on it, it never had anything especially luring to it.
However i do think it should be legalized mostly because a lot of people would lose interest and if alcohol is legal marijuana should be too.

"Yeah, it's a cure-all. My buddy Jonah broke his elbow one time. He just smoked some weed. It still clicks, but it's cool."-Ben Stone (sorry i couldn't help myself)
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RE: Your stance on.. - 1/8/2008 4:38:19 PM

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As a certified addictions counselor i am frankly shocked at people's points of view regarding marijuana.....Although, like some others have said on here, i suppose You don't realize the negative impact it could have on people's lives until You watch them smoke it down the drain (so to speak)... Before anyone tries to rip into me here, yes, sadly i am aware of how hypocritical it is for the government to continue to allow alcohol to be legal.....*sigh* If only this were a perfect world...and i were God...hmmmm...:P

People get addicted to tons of stuff that is legal. You can be addicted (quite literally) to gardening, running, working, surfing the net, plastic surgery, shopping, etc. You shouldn't make something illegal simply because people can get hooked on it and use it irresponsibly.

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RE: Your stance on.. - 1/8/2008 4:48:44 PM

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Most legal pain meds will zonk you out a lot more than pot will.
And they tend to be a lot more addicting too.

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RE: Your stance on.. - 1/8/2008 4:54:09 PM

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This is completly off topic, so please forgive me for those that are offended by such behavior.....

However, do ya'll know that You can get an OWI (/DUI) for driving while on prescription meds and/or marijuana now?

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RE: Your stance on.. - 1/8/2008 4:57:11 PM

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However, do ya'll know that You can get an OWI (/DUI) for driving while on prescription meds and/or marijuana now?

In most (I won't say "all" because I haven't done the homework, but it probably is "all") states you can get cited for driving while impaired, no matter what the impairment is: Over the counter meds, prescription meds, being sleepy, etc.

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RE: Your stance on.. - 1/8/2008 4:57:16 PM

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This thread will get pulled, but I'll answer anyway.
Love it and partake on occasion in the late evening when all is quiet in the world.
I'm infamous for toking and then watching stupid movies that make me giggle.
I'm a happy stoner.
I'm all for legalization.

I heard it makes breasts bigger too. Any truth to this? ...

Actually...getting pregnant, having that wee one and proceeding to breastfeed her exclusively for the first five months of her life does the trick quite nicely.

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RE: Your stance on.. - 1/8/2008 5:02:23 PM

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BDSM is illegal?
Shoot here in Ohio/Toledo I could start a private club, and its all good.. Course we legalized gay couples as well...

As for pot, I say tax it after the war ends, we need to deal with things, Let out all the people in jail for it and stop taxing the system.
It was only made illegal to put African Americans in jail for life. -Kid you not-
And then legalized with a bogus stamp so they could finally start enforcing anti drug laws illegaly....-Also kid you not.-

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RE: Your stance on.. - 1/8/2008 5:08:45 PM

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This is completly off topic, so please forgive me for those that are offended by such behavior.....

However, do ya'll know that You can get an OWI (/DUI) for driving while on prescription meds and/or marijuana now?

Yup. And rightly so. After my surgery I should not have been able to drive but if they hadn't told me not to I might not have thought about it.

Course it depends on the meds. The cops don't care about my ADHD or depression meds. And I'd like to see them try to ticket me while under the influence of my birth control...

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RE: Your stance on.. - 1/8/2008 5:40:36 PM

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Another one who's never tried it, but thinks it should be legalized.

Hell, i can't even buy cold medicine without a bunch of hassle nowadays. 90 years ago you could buy heroin, cocaine, and machine guns at the corner store, and the world didn't end. Too many laws, not enough sense.

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RE: Your stance on.. - 1/8/2008 11:01:31 PM

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~fr~
Legalize it, tax it, and I want Mine already rolled and in packs of 20 please.
I won't tell you how many years ago I had filtered packs brought back from the Far East. Wonderfully convenient (no zig zags needed).
I don't smoke it these days, but if legalized, I would not mind stepping out onto My patio for a few tokes before bed (or other things!). I don't have a cocktail, so I think I should get to have something. MJ sounds good to Me!

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RE: Your stance on.. - 1/9/2008 6:04:23 AM

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Really good responses all of these!

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RE: Your stance on.. - 1/9/2008 1:01:49 PM

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It should be legal, with the same restrictions as alcohol. I smoked pot for a few years, and quite a lot for about a year or so. It's the least of all illegal drugs in terms of addictive qualities, and negative side effects, and it is not as bad as most prescribed addictive drugs that are all the rave. Considering that the vast majority of people smoke pot at least a few times in there life, it seems rather ridiculous that it should be illegal. Regulate it, Tax it, Put it in a shiny box. Whatever. There is no need for pot smokers to be forced to go to the same drug dealer that will expose them to even more drugs. If it's sold at 7-11 at least you don't have to worry about the potheads turning to methheads to the same degree.
And beyond that, it's a rights issue, even more fundamental than the abortion issue, If one believes that one owns his own body, then one must have the right to harm it as well. The law should interfere only in cases where someone is involuntarily harming you. That's it. At least the abortion issue, has the question attached "Is she harming another human or not(the fetus)", in this case especially when dealing with the least of the illegal drugs, it is very feasible to use pot without ever harming another person. Thus the question would be , why is something that can and is regularly used without endangering anyone illegal? The answer is some think the law should be based around personal preferences and mob rule, when it should be based around logic and reason. If one takes freedom as the basic premise to build our rule of law from, then there is very little reasonable argument for pot to be illegal. Freedom extends only until it infringes on anothers Freedoms then a compromise must be made(law and regulations). There is no basis in a land that values Freedom to restrict the use of a plant that can and usually is used in a manner that endangers no one else but the user. I quit simply because I got tired of it, and it became boring. Most do or reduce their usage with time, sorta like masturbation. LOL.

It's very simple to my mind.

All this talk of pot, I might buy a joint. It's been years, I've almost forgotten what it was like to be stoned. Look out for some real whacked out posts shortly. hehe.

And that brings up another point, you can't get rid of it anyway, you just need dirt and light to grow it. It's not like alcohol at least some process is involved and it is in theory possible to get rid of alcohol. But pot is way to easy to grow, and requires zero knowledge. My friends 13 year old brother, back in the day used to grow a couple plants in the woods behind his house. LOL. He got seeds planted them. Then smoked it.

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RE: Your stance on.. - 1/9/2008 1:59:57 PM

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ORIGINAL: Kalista07

As a certified addictions counselor i am frankly shocked at people's points of view regarding marijuana.....Although, like some others have said on here, i suppose You don't realize the negative impact it could have on people's lives until You watch them smoke it down the drain (so to speak)... Before anyone tries to rip into me here, yes, sadly i am aware of how hypocritical it is for the government to continue to allow alcohol to be legal.....*sigh* If only this were a perfect world...and i were God...hmmmm...:P

as a person who has smoked for years and knows probably a couple hundred other folks that have smoked since their teens, i am frankly shocked at the attitude of those that want this kept illegal. the people i know that smoke pot are all hard working and i would say 75% have been at the same job since their teens or twenties. they have raised families, and id say have a lower divorce rate than the general population.

i think this is proof that everyone should smoke pot, as obviously pot smoking makes one a good citizen who stays with a job for years, owns a home, and helps old ladies across the street.

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RE: Your stance on.. - 1/9/2008 2:17:13 PM

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I do smoke fairly often but I do not support the legalization of it. I have seen too many people smoke themselves stupid everyday, and then you think about those people on the road...
and I also believe that pot can be a gateway drug to many individuals. I have seen it happen over and over again. I am not saying with everyone but most of my friends who are onto harder drugs started with just smoking pot...
and even if it is legalized people are going to start saying ecstasy should be too, and then the drinking age should be lowered, and then LSD legal on the weekends, and... everyone will always find something they want legalized - sometimes we have to compromise.

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RE: Your stance on.. - 1/9/2008 2:38:15 PM

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I've never used an illegal drug in my life, but I think all drugs should be legalized. I don't feel it is the governments responsibility to tell us, as adults, what we can and cannot do with our own bodies. Government should intervene only when our actions harm or endanger others.

What always amazes me is that someone who opposes legalization of marijuana (hell, ANY drug) is probably 99% opposed to bringing back prohibition on alcohol. Why is that anyways? Is it maybe because YOUR drug of choice (tequila, vodka, beer, wine) is 'ok' when self medicating to help mellow you out but someone else's drug is not? Hypocritical to the nth degree.

Those of you who oppose legalization of marijuana and also support prohibition, you get my respect for having a consistent, honest approach to introducing chemicals into our bodies. You want to protect us from ourselves. Fine. But at some point, something that you like might be considered unhealthy, a risk, and outlawed. Really like those Krispy Kremes? Watch out - they can cause severe obesity, people can become addicted to them, and it makes our children fat. What about the children?

Or, a closer to home example. Many may consider BDSM practices to be dangerous and the practicers of such to be of low moral quality and therefore, in order to protect us from ourselves, they will outlaw BDSM practices of all types. And we shall be whole and pure.

Sure, you might argue this is a slippery slope argument, but I don't think it is that far of a stretch.

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