Are Masters Responsible for the Welfare of Their Property?

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sammiebabygirl -> Are Masters Responsible for the Welfare of Their Property? (1/10/2008 3:22:22 PM)
I am asking this question after reading Prinsexx's post on blackmail. She is being blackmailed and harassed to the point of it being criminal, by a man claiming to be a Dom. I asked her what her Master is doing to protect her and she responded, basically, that he has been a wonderful sounding board. In my opinion, if one takes on the life of another as property, they should take on a very aggressive role in the protection of said property. Thoughts? jen

subantionette -> RE: Are Masters Responsible for the Welfare of Their Property? (1/10/2008 3:23:57 PM)
I would only hope that if i was taken on by someone that he would protect me like he would anything else that he was fond of.

cherrypez -> RE: Are Masters Responsible for the Welfare of Their Property? (1/10/2008 3:30:43 PM)
He is very protective of me even in vanilla situations---but it's real life protection. On the net I am on my own. If someone was being an asshole here and I let it bother me, I wouldn't even bother bringing it up because he would say---you can always shut off the computer.

RoughFN -> RE: Are Masters Responsible for the Welfare of Their Property? (1/10/2008 3:30:53 PM)
The trite example that I use is that I collect Transformers. You know, robots in disguise, like the big movie last summer? I've got them going back to when I was a little kid. They're still in reasonably good condition. In short, I take good care of my toys. So if I'm going to invest that much time and effort into protecting a $20 piece of plastic, you bet your ass I'm going to go that much farther for my girl. She is, after all, my favorite toy. She's my responsibility and I have no qualms about doing anything and everything within my power to keep her safe. The only one that gets to hurt her is me. [sm=evil.gif]

Jeffff -> RE: Are Masters Responsible for the Welfare of Their Property? (1/10/2008 3:32:51 PM)
Yes.....without question....for me....thats part of the deal Jeff

AquaticSub -> RE: Are Masters Responsible for the Welfare of Their Property? (1/10/2008 3:35:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sammiebabygirl In my opinion, if one takes on the life of another as property, they should take on a very aggressive role in the protection of said property. Thoughts? jen Very aggressive I don't agree with. In most situations, as Marueen O'Hara said in McClintock, "I'm a big girl and I can take care of myself. My husband knows it!" Well, owner in this case but either way. [:)] In the particular case you are talking about, I really don't know what the dominant could do. I think that in most situations if a dominant were to jump in it would just cause more trouble and give the haresser more to work with. I would expect Valyraen to provide moral support and advice. I would not want him to go beat the guy up or cause more trouble by yelling at him - let the cops handle the ass and we will just keep blocking and ignoring. About the closest we get to him aggresively protecting me is that if anyone PMs me here with messages that are rude, insulting, abuse, etc they are informed that they no longer have the privilege of speaking with me privately but I will continue to speak to them on the forums where everyone can see what they have to say. If they wish to speak with me privately again, they may attempt to convince Valyraen that what they have to say is worth reading and needs to be said privately. Edited to add: Now... all that said... smack me without permission and try to count how long it takes till he puts you on the floor. [;)]

DiurnalVampire -> RE: Are Masters Responsible for the Welfare of Their Property? (1/10/2008 3:37:33 PM)
I am fiercely protective of my boys, in real life. Online, I agree with cherrypez's masters take on things. You can block someone, ignore them, and if its that bad, just walk away for a while. You banter back and forth and you are feeding them, not making a point. I do not consider anything that happens online to be a matter of welfare of my boys. It is not reality, and it is far to easy t step out of a situation that is bad. Now, if someone threatened one of them and it moved offline to the phone or (heaven help the person) real life.. thered be hell to pay. But online, aside from maybe throwing out the occasional "Back off, he's owned" they are on their own. DV

YourhandMyAss -> RE: Are Masters Responsible for the Welfare of Their Property? (1/10/2008 3:41:55 PM)
Up to a point and certain situations I think it is. After that point it's well pointless and stupid.

Mercnbeth -> RE: Are Masters Responsible for the Welfare of Their Property? (1/10/2008 3:44:31 PM)
quote: Are Masters Responsible for the Welfare of Their Property? YES - Completely and without qualification.

ownedgirlie -> RE: Are Masters Responsible for the Welfare of Their Property? (1/10/2008 3:49:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sammiebabygirl In my opinion, if one takes on the life of another as property, they should take on a very aggressive role in the protection of said property. Thoughts? jen Agreed. Although, and I don't see this expressed much, that may also mean teaching said property to protect itself.

darchChylde -> RE: Are Masters Responsible for the Welfare of Their Property? (1/10/2008 3:57:23 PM)
broken toys aren't as fun to play with

mstrj69 -> RE: Are Masters Responsible for the Welfare of Their Property? (1/10/2008 4:01:19 PM)
Yes, Masters are responsible to a point. I say this because in the op's comment it is said the activity has reached the point of being criminal. There is nothing I could do in a criminal case unfortunately she would have to file charges herself. When did it start ? Before she was with her Master or after ? If after, it should have been brought to his attention a long time ago and he should not have let it get this far. If before she was his, what can he do except recommend she contact the police if it is criminal. And as stated elsewhere, if it is just online, change a screen name or leave the computer alone for awhile.

freyjasdottir -> RE: Are Masters Responsible for the Welfare of Their Property? (1/10/2008 4:01:51 PM)
Not owned but involved and on New Year's an event occurred when a friend's date had to be ordered out of my bedroom. I solved the problem the friend was advised of what occurred when I calmed down enough to discuss it rationally. Mine told me either the friend dealt with her boyfriend or he would do it for her, he was told simply because I don't hide things from him and when the man called me twice afterwards I let it go to voicemail, advised his girl friend and Mine. He has been told to stop calling me and if he again calls there will be legal reprucussions for either him or for Mine when he bashes the other guy to pieces.

Lashra -> RE: Are Masters Responsible for the Welfare of Their Property? (1/10/2008 4:06:44 PM)
I protect my malesub like a Mama bear with a cub. He belongs to me and no one better mess with him. He has also been instructed to take care of himself and protect himself, even from me if need be. I would say that the sub having the problem needs to take care of it right away if her Owner doesn't show any interest in doing so. She needs to protect herself. ~Lashra

Rover -> RE: Are Masters Responsible for the Welfare of Their Property? (1/10/2008 4:18:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sammiebabygirl In my opinion, if one takes on the life of another as property, they should take on a very aggressive role in the protection of said property. Thoughts? jen I believe a Dominant (or submissive/slave) is responsible for whatever has been agreed upon. However, I cannot imagine how a Dominant can become responsible, making a submissive/slave irresponsible. In other words, they both have to be responsible adults, and responsible to their relationship, in order for it to work. There is limited "protection" that anyone can offer in terms of blackmail. Those that scoff at the use of safewords should cough up a hairball over the issue of a Dominant offering complete protection like some kind of force shield. John

Rushemery -> RE: Are Masters Responsible for the Welfare of Their Property? (1/10/2008 4:24:20 PM)
Yes protect your own if you dont, can you expect them to do the same, in my home its one for all and all for one. If she was mine I am about positive I would have found a way to meet this guy in person and I bet he would have calmed down right away, most people dont have the roundtables to stand up to someone who is in the right

Mercnbeth -> RE: Are Masters Responsible for the Welfare of Their Property? (1/10/2008 4:29:49 PM)
quote: Those that scoff at the use of safewords should cough up a hairball over the issue of a Dominant offering complete protection like some kind of force shield. Why is that John? If she HAD a safe-word that would have protected her from blackmail?

Rushemery -> RE: Are Masters Responsible for the Welfare of Their Property? (1/10/2008 4:30:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AquaticSub In most situations, as Marueen O'Hara said in McClintock, "I'm a big girl and I can take care of myself. My husband knows it!" Well, owner in this case but either way. [:)] yes but she was being a brat and got a spanking for it also I would like to point out they were talking on the phone and i dont know how far that went. I really cant remember the entire post so I cant comment any further

AquaticSub -> RE: Are Masters Responsible for the Welfare of Their Property? (1/10/2008 4:35:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Rushemery quote: ORIGINAL: AquaticSub In most situations, as Marueen O'Hara said in McClintock, "I'm a big girl and I can take care of myself. My husband knows it!" Well, owner in this case but either way. [:)] yes but she was being a brat and got a spanking for it Yeah... but only because she found lipstick on his collar! 'Sides... he clearly needed to reassert his dominance. [:D]

Rushemery -> RE: Are Masters Responsible for the Welfare of Their Property? (1/10/2008 4:38:42 PM)
yes she jumped to conclusions, lol, but he also let her he just let her throw a fit. good movie isnt it

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