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RE: What if..... - 1/14/2008 3:00:50 PM   
CalifChick


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if a man can have two separate relationships with 2 wives then why can't a woman have 2 separate relationships with 2 husbands? is it considered taboo because it's not seen as a twue for BDSM?  just something Daddy tossed at me from last night after reading the forum.



Jeezus Keerist.  This is what it is really about, isn't it?  Instead of saying there would be a BDSM bible, why don't you just say you're doing to write your own dictionary and change the meanings of words to fit what makes you comfortable. 

No one said anything about Twuism.  They said mono means ONE and poly means MORE THAN ONE. 

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RE: What if..... - 1/14/2008 5:17:41 PM   
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*humbly bows to pay homage to THE rweal, twue expwert*


i hope bear doesn't see this  


LOL
I'll fight for the title

dayum it

it's mine

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RE: What if..... - 1/14/2008 5:18:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		But wouldn't this just lead to a lot of complaints that, "It's not being done by the book." A schism would develop between so-called "free-thinkers" who don't adhere to the written word, and "Purists" who follow the letter of the law.

There would charges, counter-charges, rebellions, and finally a man or woman in black leather would be seen nailing a list of grievances on the front door of a BDSM house.

Sound familiar?



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RE: What if..... - 1/14/2008 5:19:48 PM   
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There would charges, counter-charges, rebellions, and finally a man or woman in black leather would be seen nailing a list of grievances on the front door of a BDSM house.

Why does that make me giggle?

LOL

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RE: What if..... - 1/14/2008 6:28:42 PM   
sambamanslilgirl


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Status: offline 		no, Calif - it's not the point of this thread.

perhaps you should re-read my original thought ...i merely tossed it out there as a challenge to bring the "absolutist", "elitist", etc here to reply ...however since you took the bait - thank you for replying.

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RE: What if..... - 1/14/2008 6:35:43 PM   
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But wouldn't this just lead to a lot of complaints that, "It's not being done by the book." A schism would develop between so-called "free-thinkers" who don't adhere to the written word, and "Purists" who follow the letter of the law.

There would charges, counter-charges, rebellions, and finally a man or woman in black leather would be seen nailing a list of grievances on the front door of a BDSM house.

Sound familiar?



yes it does - Martin Luther nailing 99 thesis which started the religious reformation in Europe and the Lutheran movement.

see that's why i started this thread - looking for that one (or two) "purist" who would say "yes, what a great idea ...we need the ONE and ONLY twue book to define and explain everything about this kink etc etc..." alas they didn't take the challenge (as of yet).

i'm quite disappointed.


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RE: What if..... - 1/14/2008 6:39:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: sambamanslilgirl

no, Calif - it's not the point of this thread.

perhaps you should re-read my original thought ...i merely tossed it out there as a challenge to bring the "absolutist", "elitist", etc here to reply ...however since you took the bait - thank you for replying.

have a nice evening



Damn. Can't say I've ever thought of myself as "elitist" but since I pretty much agree that having two mono relationships is a form of poly... ahh well. I can live with it.


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RE: What if..... - 1/14/2008 6:46:15 PM   
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a UM/father/parent relationship - quite monogamous but in the vanilla world, it would be called a family.

a bf/Dom and gf/submissive - monogamous relationship

two distinct yet very different relationships that have one common factor the submissive involved - is it still poly?


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RE: What if..... - 1/14/2008 6:47:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: sambamanslilgirl

you raised an interesting point, Irish, and i wish the so-called "experts" would come here to  reply. 

yet since they don't know each and every one of us as an individual, then why continue trying to convince us their way is the only way? *sighs*  still waiting for that "yes" man/woman - i'm such a glutton for punishment


I do not understand what your point is here. WHO are you waiting for? And if you care so little for THEIR opinions, WHY are you asking for "experts" to post on this topic?

Your question is crazy. Who would follow a book about anything that dictates ONE way of being? I don't know about anyone else, but I am an individual and follow my own rules.

I agree with Jefff. I find most people here have no patience for the one twue way bullshit.

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RE: What if..... - 1/14/2008 6:50:07 PM   
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RE: What if..... - 1/14/2008 6:55:03 PM   
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I do not understand what your point is here. WHO are you waiting for? And if you care so little for THEIR opinions, WHY are you asking for "experts" to post on this topic?


i'm glutton for punishment ...i thrive on stuff like this whether it's negative or positive.  it does make for a good observation into the human pysche.  i love a good challenge and i have set it up here on this thread.

exactly "who" am i waiting for, why red i'm surprised like you don't know (not saying you're one of them). why am i asking them to post here - to see if they can be impressive here as well as they are on the general/other forums. why should i care about their opinions - psychological interest of mine.

in the end, most may not have patience for it however many are easily led by it too.



edited to add:

well, greedy it would be up to the same people who feel everyone's wrong.


< Message edited by sambamanslilgirl -- 1/14/2008 6:57:58 PM >

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RE: What if..... - 1/14/2008 6:57:43 PM   
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I do not understand what your point is here. WHO are you waiting for? And if you care so little for THEIR opinions, WHY are you asking for "experts" to post on this topic?


i'm glutton for punishment ...i thrive on stuff like this whether it's negative or positive.  it does make for a good observation into the human pysche.  i love a good challenge and i have set it up here on this thread.

exactly "who" am i waiting for, why red i'm surprised like you don't know (not saying you're one of them). why am i asking them to post here - to see if they can impressive here as well as they are on the general forum. why should i care about their opinions - psychological interest of mine.

in the end, most may not have patience for it however many are easily led by it too.



Oh, you KNOW I am not one of them! LOL  I think I know who you mean though....but I won't name names.

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RE: What if..... - 1/14/2008 7:01:07 PM   
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RE: What if..... - 1/14/2008 7:04:29 PM   
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This bible would explain exactly everything from A to Z about BDSM rom the correct definition between submissive and slave to defining what is a proper BDSM relationship, This book would have no special exceptions for special cases ...everyone around the world would have to obey it - no matter what. Also it would cease and desist arguments on the forums because the "experts" have finally agreed upon what is the correct and twue way for you and yours.


Would quotes from the experts be printed in red? I think that's a very important detail.

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RE: What if..... - 1/14/2008 7:06:22 PM   
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Well, it's not who I thought because I wouldn't use the term "impressive" to describe that person.


snort.

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RE: What if..... - 1/14/2008 8:03:58 PM   
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ORIGINAL: sambamanslilgirl

a UM/father/parent relationship - quite monogamous but in the vanilla world, it would be called a family.

a bf/Dom and gf/submissive - monogamous relationship

two distinct yet very different relationships that have one common factor the submissive involved - is it still poly?


That is exactly the definition of poly. You forgot to add that you are having sex in both relationships.  So it's not a parent relationship in the sense that you are describing a non-intimate relationship with someone who mentors you.  The two men in your life are in monogamous relationships, but you, the center of the "V" of the dynamic, are not.

Cali


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RE: What if..... - 1/14/2008 11:17:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: sambamanslilgirl

it may seem poly however look at it this from my pov.

a UM/father/parent relationship - quite monogamous but in the vanilla world, it would be called a family.

a bf/Dom and gf/submissive - monogamous relationship

two distinct yet very different relationships that have one common factor the submissive involved - is it still poly?



By my opinion, yes.

I have one monogamous relationship with my owner. I hope to have one monogamous relationship with a girlfriend, they will probably never have sex but I will be in two relationships, therefore I will be in a poly situation. In my opinion, you are as well because you are in two monogamous relationships. If that makes me elitist... well as I said, I can live with that.

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RE: What if..... - 1/14/2008 11:36:36 PM   
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Aren't there a number of bad scifi movies based on this concept?

yes there are a movies based on this concept to make people think and ponder such consequences of our actions. 

why not here? 

i mean we do have a few "absolutists" spouting their one-twuism here ...so why not give them a chance to finally end disputes once and for all about the kink lifestyle though it would probably take them years to agree.


to the others - thank you for replying





Shrug...I thought you were writing a serious thread and it actually made me think, if we could agree on at least more basics it might be helpful, but honestly as far as substantial likes/dislikes/activities, I don't really care what other people think I should be unless I'm fucking them and even then it's limited.  Why do you?

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RE: What if..... - 1/15/2008 3:35:08 AM   
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RE: What if..... - 1/15/2008 3:43:08 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: sambamanslilgirl

a UM/father/parent relationship - quite monogamous but in the vanilla world, it would be called a family.

a bf/Dom and gf/submissive - monogamous relationship

two distinct yet very different relationships that have one common factor the submissive involved - is it still poly?


That is exactly the definition of poly. You forgot to add that you are having sex in both relationships.  So it's not a parent relationship in the sense that you are describing a non-intimate relationship with someone who mentors you.  The two men in your life are in monogamous relationships, but you, the center of the "V" of the dynamic, are not.

Cali


we have a winner folks! 

thank you for that lovely assumption, Calif, i knew you eventually say it. however you in fact wrong. i'm not having sex of any kind with Daddy but it's definitely more like a parent-UM relationship. i was "adopted" into His family and was "raised" as His daughter. question to you - would any other dominant ask a submissive's Daddy permission and blessing for her hand in marriage?

see - you're still trapped thinking inside the box ...you need to step out of it for a moment to get a wider picture. unlike you, i don't think one dimensional ...obtuese and other angles is more of my style. quite freeing and refreshing not being one of the conformists.


Aqua, i would never consider you an "elitist" - i have respect for you and your opinions far higher than others. you're wise beyond your age.

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