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Leatherist -> RE: Overly romantizing the lifestyle (1/14/2008 7:23:45 PM)

Romance is what you have when the reality is solid.

Or you might have infatuation-accompanied by "other". [;)]




LadyHibiscus -> RE: Overly romantizing the lifestyle (1/14/2008 7:36:38 PM)

I used to be romantic, I swear!  Or maybe that was a dream...

I have always been swamped with responsibilities and family demands.  The "lifestyle" has to fit in with MY life, however I choose to fit it.  That means like is not a 24/7 scene.  That means that sometimes I am too frikken tired to beat ass, and I don't care HOW much I can crush your balls, get them away before I cut them off! 

Yes, it IS all about me.  :)  I am the dominant all the time, whether I am dressed like a ragamuffin and cleaning my parrot's cage, or in my custom gear.  I can be grief stricken, or goofy, or sick with the flu, and I am still the dominant.  My mindset informs my actions, and I have to let the fun stuff go sometimes.  It's not all glamour. 

So, I guess that makes me unromantic.  Oh well.




YourhandMyAss -> RE: Overly romantizing the lifestyle (1/14/2008 10:59:28 PM)

I think to me the term overly romantasized, means acting like it's all flowers and unicorns and fluffy white cotton candy clouds, and after you both orgasm you'll both fly off into the sunset happily ever after type of portrayal of what it is we do.

quote:

ORIGINAL: cherrypez

  I've heard this term thrown out there from time to time, and most D/s relationship are bound to have romance so what does this term 'overly romantized' mean?





laurell3 -> RE: Overly romantizing the lifestyle (1/15/2008 12:00:58 AM)

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ORIGINAL: YourhandMyAss

I think to me the term overly romantasized, means acting like it's all flowers and unicorns and fluffy white cotton candy clouds, and after you both orgasm you'll both fly off into the sunset happily ever after type of portrayal of what it is we do.

quote:

ORIGINAL: cherrypez

I've heard this term thrown out there from time to time, and most D/s relationship are bound to have romance so what does this term 'overly romantized' mean?




What?  It's not?  We don't?  (runs away crying).

Without getting into the whole "lifestyle" debate and recognizing the OP could have been worded better (so what?), yeah I think many think bdsm is "special" and "different" and our relationships are "more solid" or "more intense" or "have more trust".  It ain't all that.  Much like in life, it's what you make of it or don't.  Believing in magic people can bring to each other is fine, expecting it because you're into bdsm and/or d/s is just setting yourself up.

Now where's my damn unicorn?!?!




angelslave77 -> RE: Overly romantizing the lifestyle (1/15/2008 12:12:29 AM)

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ORIGINAL: YourhandMyAss

I think to me the term overly romantasized, means acting like it's all flowers and unicorns and fluffy white cotton candy clouds, and after you both orgasm you'll both fly off into the sunset happily ever after type of portrayal of what it is we do.



I agree and I think the same can be said for nilla also. Most people have a fanasy they create in thier head but the trick is recognising that reality isnt going to measure up. There will be times it exceeds imagination and times it falls far short and some people arent prepared for that.




ownedgirlie -> RE: Overly romantizing the lifestyle (1/15/2008 12:22:51 AM)

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ORIGINAL: cherrypez
Sure I believe it how the hell do you deal with the PMS though? 


Midol.  LOTS of Midol!!




hisannabelle -> RE: Overly romantizing the lifestyle (1/15/2008 12:35:04 AM)

greetings cherrypez,

i think that people's misconceptions of what an m/s relationship is like can be overly romanticized. it comes down to this: he makes the rules, i obey the rules. he changes the rules, i obey the new rules. he comes up with random shit he wants me to do off the top of his head, i do it. LOL. he's not perfect...he doesn't like having someone else in his space and is still getting used to it. he has a tendency to get angry at the world and verbally take things out on me, and i have a tendency to take everything personally, so we tend to play emotional bumper cars every now and then. but at the same time, i trust him with my life and i love our relationship and i wouldn't trade it for the world. that doesn't make it romantic. he is not the candlelight dinner and roses kind of guy (although i am that kind of girl, which took me a long time to get over). we spend more time laughing and screwing up scenes than we do getting everything right and shiny and perfect and scripted. he does the cooking when we are together, because i use an oven and he is against using the oven on principle. he also does most of the cleaning in his place, because he likes to clean and he's honestly a ton better at it than me. he's not traditionally handsome or buffed...but then again, i'm not exactly what you'd call classically beautiful, either. we are way more likely to be sitting in sweats on the couch passing a crossword puzzle back and forth with him trying to explain golf to me on the tv than at some romantic dinner followed by a night at the opera. i don't spend all my time on my knees naked. he'd get so incredibly bored by that (which probably means they'll revoke his man card, hehehe).

the fact is, all it means is this: he's in charge. i obey. i'm property who happens to be human and a woman, but i am still property. that doesn't indicate anything about us as people or our personalities or even the qualities of our relationship. we're really not that different from any other relationship, vanilla or bdsm-related. we aren't. the fact that he is owner and i am property doesn't make us more special. it doesn't make us more emotionally healthy or advanced or anything silly like that. it makes him the owner and me the property - the rest is just all this crap we attach to it mentally, which is just silly to me. it's just the common denominator - it's why we're an "m/s" couple. i think the reason people tend to read all these shiny romanticized things into those lines is that as human beings we stereotype things and then we take the stereotypes and we make inferences about them. for example - we see a guy in a suit and we think, "oh! male wearing a suit," and then our mind tacks all this stuff onto it, like, "he's a businessman, he's on his way home to his wife after a long day at work, he must drive a fancy car," etc., etc. stereotyping is a necessary cognitive function to be able to get through life and mentally categorize things without overloading ourselves, but the more socially advanced we get the more we make assumptions to go along with those labels. and everybody, of course, has their own list of assumptions to go along with the label of "m/s" or "24/7" or "master/dominant" or "submissive/slave" or what have you.

respectfully,
annabelle.




fluffyswitch -> RE: Overly romantizing the lifestyle (1/15/2008 3:51:11 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

Just adores IM!
Ditto to what she said. (with extra fucks).
 
Seriously, it would be 'nice' if people stopped jumping on the whole 'lifestyle' or 'community' lorry.
 
the.dark.


out of pure curiousity, why?





fluffyswitch -> RE: Overly romantizing the lifestyle (1/15/2008 4:13:15 AM)

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ORIGINAL: KnightofMists

the term "overly romantizing" just strikes me as saying "unrealistic expectations"

I personally don't want to overly romantize my relationship.  However what I consider as over romantizing will be different than what others think.  It really is a rather subjective judgement that we make of ourselves and others situations.   

agreed though i think i would add that people come to this with expectations that they built off of media representations, so they have this image of what it should be like not realizing that it's a lot more dynamic that what it really is.




sweetnsensual -> RE: Overly romantizing the lifestyle (1/15/2008 5:04:30 AM)

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ORIGINAL: takenbyjohnr07

As a child most of us were read about Prince Charming. In all the movies and books and love songsThe man of your dreams,  he was romantic and  perfect and she was beautiful and flawles also. Hard to live up to, but also hard to get out of your head.



I agree and that's something that I've had problems with too.

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My Owner is not perfect, but he's perfect for me. And that's the way people should be let to live. what is right for them and what makes them happy.



I love the way you said that and I think it's so true.

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

I am the dominant all the time, whether I am dressed like a ragamuffin and cleaning my parrot's cage, or in my custom gear.  I can be grief stricken, or goofy, or sick with the flu, and I am still the dominant.  My mindset informs my actions, and I have to let the fun stuff go sometimes.  It's not all glamour. 


I think this is true as well and it's true for any Dom/me.  (Not saying that this is what you were implying) I would never think that just because a Dom/me was dressed a certain way, feeling a certain way means they still werent all Dom/me.  Just like I would never do that for a submissive.  Personally, although I like the whole Me Dom stuff, I'd also like it when he would get more real and let himself be goofy, or grief stricken, or whatever.  Although some Dom/mes are larger than life by nature, I like seeing the human side that's not always in this perfect package.  Hopefully I didn't get off topic but if I did I'm sorry.

edited to add more stuff




DesFIP -> RE: Overly romantizing the lifestyle (1/15/2008 5:06:47 AM)

It isn't the lifestyle that is overly romantic, it is the people involved who would be just as invested in fantasy over reality in a vanilla relationship and who were, or those past vanilla relationships would have lasted.




Justme696 -> RE: Overly romantizing the lifestyle (1/15/2008 5:09:03 AM)

Once i saw this picture of a harem..guarded by Muslim knights..gracefull girls..in the Arab pool....olive trees. The Sultan (think it was Saladin) and the girls at his feet.
yes i had that picture with the lifestyle somehow.   sigh

But now i don't see it as a lifestyle so much...i was to much focussed on it..now i just live in a certain style.




sweetnsensual -> RE: Overly romantizing the lifestyle (1/15/2008 5:16:09 AM)

Now, I have no basis for this except I'm guessing this is what other people do, but isn't living a "certain style" like Justme696 said what a lot of people do?  I could be wrong...

edited to add...  Sounds like a cool picture though.




sunshinemiss -> RE: Overly romantizing the lifestyle (1/15/2008 5:45:15 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Justme696

It is as romantic as you make it in your relation. As simple as that, and what others do is not of influence on your view (or should be not).

But when i started as Master i hoped all the foruems would be filled with elf like sweet tender slaves and that all slaves would fight for me as Owner. Sadly i was wrong lol.
I guess my romantic view was wrong.



gets out my boxing gloves and starts fighting all the Keebler elves...




Justme696 -> RE: Overly romantizing the lifestyle (1/15/2008 5:54:46 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss

quote:

ORIGINAL: Justme696

It is as romantic as you make it in your relation. As simple as that, and what others do is not of influence on your view (or should be not).

But when i started as Master i hoped all the foruems would be filled with elf like sweet tender slaves and that all slaves would fight for me as Owner. Sadly i was wrong lol.
I guess my romantic view was wrong.



gets out my boxing gloves and starts fighting all the Keebler elves...


It seems I was wrong at beeing wrong lol




Leatherist -> RE: Overly romantizing the lifestyle (1/15/2008 6:09:08 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss

quote:

ORIGINAL: Justme696

It is as romantic as you make it in your relation. As simple as that, and what others do is not of influence on your view (or should be not).

But when i started as Master i hoped all the foruems would be filled with elf like sweet tender slaves and that all slaves would fight for me as Owner. Sadly i was wrong lol.
I guess my romantic view was wrong.



gets out my boxing gloves and starts fighting all the Keebler elves...


No more cookies for you!

[:D]




Justme696 -> RE: Overly romantizing the lifestyle (1/15/2008 9:51:19 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Leatherist

quote:

ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss

quote:

ORIGINAL: Justme696

It is as romantic as you make it in your relation. As simple as that, and what others do is not of influence on your view (or should be not).

But when i started as Master i hoped all the foruems would be filled with elf like sweet tender slaves and that all slaves would fight for me as Owner. Sadly i was wrong lol.
I guess my romantic view was wrong.



gets out my boxing gloves and starts fighting all the Keebler elves...


No more cookies for you!

[:D]


can I have them then?




Justme696 -> RE: Overly romantizing the lifestyle (1/15/2008 9:52:31 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: sweetnsensual

Now, I have no basis for this except I'm guessing this is what other people do, but isn't living a "certain style" like Justme696 said what a lot of people do?  I could be wrong...

edited to add...  Sounds like a cool picture though.


http://www.orientalist-art.org.uk/harem.html






Owner4SexSlave -> RE: Overly romantizing the lifestyle (1/15/2008 12:05:40 PM)

Well, I guess it's a rude awakening for somebody if they think I'm Prince Charming.  Even more so, when I have them tied up and bent over... using them from behind, spanking their ass.. pulling hair and saying wicked nasty perverted things.  LOL... 




Justme696 -> RE: Overly romantizing the lifestyle (1/15/2008 12:08:18 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner4SexSlave

Well, I guess it's a rude awakening for somebody if they think I'm Prince Charming.  Even more so, when I have them tied up and bent over... using them from behind, spanking their ass.. pulling hair and saying wicked nasty perverted things.  LOL... 


I would be shocked to wake up with you  lol




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