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RE: Some religions believe - 1/16/2008 10:58:59 AM   
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And Paul was the one who really made women subservient.



you have pages or so where I can read about this? Seems like a good fella


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RE: Some religions believe - 1/16/2008 11:00:20 AM   
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Oh Omega... I found the source.  Avetik Isahakian
Not an official biblical reference, but I knew I had read it somewhere.
 
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RE: Some religions believe - 1/16/2008 11:01:26 AM   
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RE: Some religions believe - 1/16/2008 11:02:10 AM   
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Lilith gave meaning to the words Imaculate Conception.

I thought that was Madonna


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RE: Some religions believe - 1/16/2008 11:04:06 AM   
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RE: Some religions believe - 1/16/2008 11:06:45 AM   
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RE: Some religions believe - 1/16/2008 11:09:59 AM   
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RE: Some religions believe - 1/16/2008 11:15:25 AM   
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And Paul was the one who really made women subservient.



you have pages or so where I can read about this? Seems like a good fella



In a few of his letters in the Bible (no, I don't remember which ones) he outlines where he thinks a woman's place shuold be.

Actually, I mispoke, Proberbs 31 also outlines what a woman should strive for.  But the tone is far less misogynist then Paul's letters.

I've always felt that Paul was an egomaniac over-achiever.  When he was persecuting the Christians he was the best in his field, when he got blinded and heard Jesus' voice he automatically became the top authority and was never hesitant to tell the converted how they should act.

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RE: Some religions believe - 1/16/2008 11:16:27 AM   
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*is glad I am not the only one who seemed not to get the posts*
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Oh Omega... I found the source.  Avetik Isahakian
Not an official biblical reference, but I knew I had read it somewhere.
 
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That's a bookmarkable link, Thanks!

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RE: Some religions believe - 1/16/2008 11:17:46 AM   
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RE: Some religions believe - 1/16/2008 11:20:20 AM   
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God is dead

Friedrich Nietzsche


It would be nice if people would actually quote some of Nietzsche's writings instead of just the pop culture three word simplification of a profound and complicated book.

(No offense to you personally. Everyone else who thinks quoting Nietzsche is the "cool" thing to do without actually reading what he wrote is included with you in that offense. )

((Don't even get me started on the "It's better to be feared then to be loved" Machiavelli crap))

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RE: Some religions believe - 1/16/2008 11:23:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		In a philosophical discussion.I would delve deeper.......when being a smart ass.I see no need...:)......no offense taken...lol

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Pick one

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RE: Some religions believe - 1/16/2008 11:27:47 AM   
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RE: Some religions believe - 1/16/2008 11:28:19 AM   
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We have nothing to fear, but fear itself
Pick one


Damn you!

I really wasn't picking on you, but hey...seems you can't have a discussion about God anymore without some punk college kid interjecting the whopper of an insightful and intellectual phrase of "God is Dead -Nietszche" in an attempt to look really profound.

I mean come on. The phrase doesn't even do the point he was trying to get across any justice!

Okay, done with the hijack.

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RE: Some religions believe - 1/16/2008 11:29:42 AM   
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RE: Some religions believe - 1/16/2008 11:31:28 AM   
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i gave up on religion a long time ago


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RE: Some religions believe - 1/16/2008 11:38:04 AM   
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This is a damn interesting discussion


and one of the most civilized I've encountered in a long time.



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RE: Some religions believe - 1/16/2008 11:40:02 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Justme696

This is a damn interesting discussion


and one of the most civilized I've encountered in a long time.




yes agree...a difficult subject..but no "break-outs" yet


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RE: Some religions believe - 1/16/2008 11:41:57 AM   
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LOL what do you do when your being a dumb ass.


Pretty much the same thing....

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RE: Some religions believe - 1/16/2008 11:45:02 AM   
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that it is against God to do any BDSM. Does anyone know why? Is it because of the sexual pleasure that they object to or is it something else? Thanks


If this has been said already, I apologize as this thread is long and a bit convuluted--
 
First of all "any BDSM" is a huge generalization--I doubt that any spiritual being would fault a Dominant for the love and protection afforded a submisisve as being against ANY spiritual law---on the converse---poly sexual interactions are against many spiritual groups--both of those are elements of BDSM.
 
As such, "God" limits that to certain religions, as many believe in a different spiritual leader.
 
IMHO most religions and spiritual groups have some basic laws---love yourself, love man--give those basics---I do not see how something done with consent can be against those laws?   I don't remember seeing anywhere in the Christian bible where it says, thou shalt not tie your partner up and beat them for mutual pleasure--but then I am o only human and not an expert.
 
 

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