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RE: muslim(ah) members? - 9/13/2009 12:34:53 PM

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Circumcision is not necessarily an Islamic act.

Quite, it is a Jewish act, practized by the enemies of Mohammed. If I recall correctly, it was commanded by the God of the Jews - not the incarnate Creator Allah - of Abraham to mutilate the penis of Isaac.

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And I can't see how could it be related to heart.

It apparently was a generalized correlation observed by St. Paul, who was well familiar with the Jews, being one himself. He apparently noticed, I deduce, that Jews (often) needed (to obey) the Law - which they often did not - in order to be good people, whereas the non-Jews did not require the Law, as they were mostly inherently good people. His argument in one of his texts against circumcision is pure genius.

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Would it make a difference to you if you're talking to an uncircumsized Muslim?. I guess not.

When interacting with individuals, generalizations may not apply. When discussing populations and population genetics and gene pools, generalizations to some degree do apply.

There is a thread in these forums called "When did the USA become a Christian nation". In my opinion the question is not relevant. The question ought to be "When did the USA become a Jewish nation" and my answer is: "When they started to mutilate the penises of their male offspring." In a couple of generations I predict that the USA population will be inbreeding cousins with cousins, will have five to six times more congenital disease than in our times, and will stone adulterous women, or simply cut their throat, or drown them in a bucket, and will need the sharia to quell their own evil.

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RE: muslim(ah) members? - 9/14/2009 2:10:43 PM

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It's a shame that this started out as a peaceful, informative thread. Rule, i am sorry that you have so much anger, and sincerely hope that being able to spew it all over an anonymous virtual forum acts to bring you peace in your personal life.

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RE: muslim(ah) members? - 9/14/2009 3:18:03 PM

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Anger?

It is true that these past years some emotion is returning to me, but it is like half a cup of sand compared to the Sahara desert. As far as I recall I have been angry once during the past 43 years, and that was last December when a now ex-friend committed serious fraud - and being that angry was quite a surpise to me.

I have about as much anger or other emotions in me as a dead pocket calculator.

Population genetics and natural selection are not subject to the emotions that you experience as so important to you. These algorithms are as inexorable as the tides and as gravity. You may protest as much as you want and be as angry or sad or tearful as you want, but the tide will rise at its appointed time. Whatever you say to king Canute the Great, he cannot stop the tide - and neither can anyone else.

I recommend that you read the short story "The cold equations" by Tom Godwin.

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RE: muslim(ah) members? - 9/14/2009 4:39:13 PM

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I am not looking to point to your bad sides but come with facts illustrating Islam is not only a bed of roses and that (sexual) slavery is not condemned by the verses we discussed and it is not certain homosexuality does not exist in the Qur'an.

I didnt say that and i don't know why you want to prove or illustrate that especially here. I'm waiting for those verses.

You said ''you always see our bad side only''. It is not clear what you mean here. The same counts for me ''wanting to prove or illustrate here''. I am not here to prove a thing, I stick to facts and it is a fact the Qur'an is stuffed with people having slaves and raping them as they please, even married slaves. You said to search for verses condemning slavery in Qur'an. Concerning latent homosexuality the Qur'an says there will besides female virgins also wait beautiful male virgins in paradise for men to serve them. There are also verses about males not having need for women.

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RE: muslim(ah) members? - 9/14/2009 4:40:22 PM

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It's a shame that this started out as a peaceful, informative thread. Rule, i am sorry that you have so much anger, and sincerely hope that being able to spew it all over an anonymous virtual forum acts to bring you peace in your personal life.

What was peaceful and informative to you in this thread and no longer is?

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RE: muslim(ah) members? - 9/14/2009 4:49:14 PM

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- Sighs happily. - Hellenic Polytheism is so... Understandable, compared to other religions.... Or is it just me?

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RE: muslim(ah) members? - 9/14/2009 4:58:53 PM

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- Sighs happily. - Hellenic Polytheism is so... Understandable, compared to other religions.... Or is it just me?

What does it cure?

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RE: muslim(ah) members? - 9/14/2009 5:06:37 PM

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You are quite right about the affinity Europeans have with Greek (and Asgardian) mythology.

However, this thread is about muslim members of CM.

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RE: muslim(ah) members? - 9/14/2009 5:19:20 PM

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It's a shame that this started out as a peaceful, informative thread. Rule, i am sorry that you have so much anger, and sincerely hope that being able to spew it all over an anonymous virtual forum acts to bring you peace in your personal life.

he just likes to be contrary no matter the subject xiam, it seems to give him the feeling of superiority.

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RE: muslim(ah) members? - 9/14/2009 5:51:29 PM

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~shrugs~ I happen to be an expert in various fields. Other people are expert in other fields in which I am like a babe lost in the woods.

I am a supergenius. As such a communication problem with ordinary people is to be expected. Most will call me crazy, a majority may want to murder me for telling them that they have warts on their whatever; infrequently, a miracle may occur when one single individual starts to wonder and perchance THINK. That miracle may end my lonely solitude.

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RE: muslim(ah) members? - 9/15/2009 7:31:50 AM

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: Rolls eyes : Quite conceited, aren't we?

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RE: muslim(ah) members? - 9/15/2009 7:37:16 AM

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