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Sadistic Pleasure - 1/18/2008 7:46:05 AM   
Rianne


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Status: offline 		What goes on in your mind/body/soul when you're involved in creating a dynamic of psychological or physical pain in your partner?  What is it like?  How does it feel to you as you move through the scene, controlling that edge of energy?  What is the anticipation like beforehand?  How do you feel during and after?  What are some of your favorite moves?

What do you notice?  Not just signs and symptoms, but as your partner is bending to your will, what pleases you in that? What kinds of responses tell you that you're in the right spot?

I'm not looking for snit fights on the definitions of sadism or the right way to do it, if it's ok to do or not, nor the simplistic "It is who I am...I just BE...so I certainly can't describe it".  I'd like to peer within your sadistic soul and have a little look-see into this  pleasure principle.  Have some fun and tell us why this floats your happy boat.
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RE: Sadistic Pleasure - 1/18/2008 7:54:33 AM   
antipode


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Status: offline 		I don't control any "edges of energy", I don't understand where you get that from - I control my bank account, and sometimes even my car..

For me, it is a combination of a power trip and a deep appreciation of trust. Does not have to be esoteric.

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RE: Sadistic Pleasure - 1/18/2008 8:58:41 AM   
xxblushesxx


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Status: offline 		I'm going to refer this to a friend of mine. I'm not sure if he'll reply or not, but I am sure he could answer this question.

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RE: Sadistic Pleasure - 1/18/2008 9:33:05 AM   
kajira2surrender


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HHmm...may i please ask what state your in?
smiles shyly

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RE: Sadistic Pleasure - 1/18/2008 9:47:04 AM   
TMaster2


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Status: offline 		wow, this is a hard one.  I definitely have a sadistic side, and I don't know if the basis for that is enjoying the power I can use, or maybe it's the resolution of feelings I developed as a kid watching Man from UNCLE *grin*  or whatever, but I know I like it.  I like to see her squirm, hear her small cries and moans, push her to the edge I hope will be a place of surprise for her, never having known she would enjoy it that much.  I like seeing the marks, like art on a canvas; the provocative pulling and swelling of clips, clamps, and pierces; the flush and blush of humbling forces and forced showings;  ahhh, it is all good ;)

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RE: Sadistic Pleasure - 1/18/2008 9:54:25 AM   
kinkypuppy2


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Status: offline 		Energy flow  for us is the largest part of BDSM.
I tend for feed off anothers emotions andstruggles. Can I describe it better then that, I am not sure I can. I know its there with some and not with others.
I like it and want more.

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RE: Sadistic Pleasure - 1/18/2008 10:40:27 AM   
ownedgirlie


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ORIGINAL: kinkypuppy2

Energy flow  for us is the largest part of BDSM.
I tend for feed off anothers emotions andstruggles. Can I describe it better then that, I am not sure I can. I know its there with some and not with others.
I like it and want more.


This is the case with us, as well.  And the more he feeds off me like this, the more he enjoys tormenting me.  What began as mild isn't so mild anymore.  Oddly enough, my own reactions to him are changing, as well. He combines the physical with the psychological.  The last time, he rigged me up so that I was in so much pain I couldn't move, then he moved away from me and beckoned me to come to him, teasing me all the while, until I was in tears, yet showing me I can get through anything.

The look on his face was worth all of it.

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RE: Sadistic Pleasure - 1/18/2008 11:07:14 AM   
Justme696


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Status: offline 		I like the pain and pleasure mixture on the face...and the shivering body...and   hmmmm  the moans getting louder
and also when you whip themm..how they curve the back inwards which pushes the ass towards you...and then use it :D

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RE: Sadistic Pleasure - 1/18/2008 12:17:10 PM   
master69dragon


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Status: offline 		but there is more. The rush of energy during the workup, the mix of pleasure/pain, the smell that my sub/slaves give off, there body as it rocks. it's a GOD COMPLEX plain and simple. Knowing that someone is willing to give themselves to you, to do your bidding, for me it is like full contact fighting or being in combat. Soldiers will tell you, as I will (8 years with the 2nd/75th airborne Ranger division during the Regan Era), that while in combat things will slow down, you will notice everything and nothing, your heart will be racing but you will not know it, you'll come to believe that you're super human and also close to death and the rush after the effect will last for about 36 hours. So that is what I feel (I do not speak for others) during the session. It's having all of your senses (and yes there are 7) firing at the same time and the ability to control those inputs and transfer them to your partner.

Master Dragon

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RE: Sadistic Pleasure - 1/18/2008 2:04:41 PM   
Rianne


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Status: offline 		Oh, this is good stuff...exactly what I'm wondering about.  Please keep it coming...I appreciate your efforts at finding words for something so intimate.

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RE: Sadistic Pleasure - 1/18/2008 2:06:23 PM   
Rianne


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The look on his face was worth all of it.


That part I do understand! 

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RE: Sadistic Pleasure - 1/18/2008 4:44:50 PM   
SirJohnMandevill


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ORIGINAL: Rianne

Oh, this is good stuff...exactly what I'm wondering about.  Please keep it coming...I appreciate your efforts at finding words for something so intimate.


For me, two things: the utter helplessless of my submissive when she's restrained, and her reactions -- as others have said, the mix of pleasure and pain -- as I progress through the various things I do with her, be they playful or painful.

I'm also fond of giving my subs body-shaking, screaming, squirting orgasms. That's also a genuing power trip for me.

Les (Purveyor of Fine, Handcrafted Kink)

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RE: Sadistic Pleasure - 1/18/2008 9:47:15 PM   
TheDomInTheHat


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Status: offline 		I would say its a power trip but I think mainly it is just that I like to press buttons and find out what they do and the most fun buttons of all for me are on a woman.  Its like a license to explore someone psychologically and physically and shows a lot of trust. I guess for the sub, its can be something of a challenge to hold back. I mean c'mon I must have my scream and if you are not gonna give it to me, then I'm gonna have to try something you didn't expect.

Ignore what I am saying as I am sick and slightly drunk (vodka tonic just in case I have malaria and not a cold) 

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RE: Sadistic Pleasure - 1/19/2008 2:36:09 AM   
Justme696


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quote:

ORIGINAL: TheDomInTheHat

I would say its a power trip but I think mainly it is just that I like to press buttons and find out what they do and the most fun buttons of all for me are on a woman.  Its like a license to explore someone psychologically and physically and shows a lot of trust. I guess for the sub, its can be something of a challenge to hold back. I mean c'mon I must have my scream and if you are not gonna give it to me, then I'm gonna have to try something you didn't expect.

Ignore what I am saying as I am sick and slightly drunk (vodka tonic just in case I have malaria and not a cold) 


better safe then sorry  you are a wise man :P

With the ""finding the buttons" I have to agree...that is well put. Seeing how she reacts on all you do.
I also was always interest between the difference when I did soemthing at home...and when we did it outdoor in the forest. :D



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RE: Sadistic Pleasure - 1/19/2008 4:14:06 AM   
lronitulstahp


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Status: offline 		Rianne...good question, i've always wondered the same thing myself.  i find myself always clarifying "not a painslut", but honestly having little experience with intense pain play.  Some of the more interesting replies almost make a girl willing to try to test some boundaries...
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I'm also fond of giving my subs body-shaking, screaming, squirting orgasms
sign me up!!! LOL but more poetic in a way were:
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like to see her squirm, hear her small cries and moans, push her to the edge I hope will be a place of surprise for her, never having known she would enjoy it that much.  I like seeing the marks, like art on a canvas; the provocative pulling and swelling of clips, clamps, and pierces; the flush and blush of humbling forces and forced showings
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  there is more. The rush of energy during the workup, the mix of pleasure/pain, the smell that my sub/slaves give off, there body as it rocks. it's a GOD COMPLEX plain and simple. Knowing that someone is willing to give themselves to you, to do your bidding, for me it is like full contact fighting or being in combat...It's having all of your senses (and yes there are 7) firing at the same time and the ability to control those inputs and transfer them to your partner

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RE: Sadistic Pleasure - 1/19/2008 6:03:55 AM   
Rianne


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Status: offline 		Iron,
Those were some of my favorite quotes as well.
You know, there is something about being the recipient of all that thought and energy and planning and all that is hot.  For me, pain hurts....that just isn't a goal I'd go for out of the blue.  But the eroticism and energy involved is very seductive.

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RE: Sadistic Pleasure - 1/19/2008 5:22:38 PM   
hawkwolf7


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Status: offline 		I liked a lot of what everyone has said so far, so I won't address those. Instead, I would like to talk about something that wasn't mentioned (at least directly) by the previous responses. And that is intimacy.

I love fisting. I love it alot; because it is so physically intimate. Your hand so very deeply inside their body that every twitch of a finger, every twist of your wrist triggers body spasms and cascading orgasms. Power? Sure! But there is something extra that comes from being so closely connected.

And the same is true of my SM play, but which operates in both the physical and emotional arenas. I know my partner's fears. I know my partner's inner demons. I know the whys and wherefors of every scar and every terror. And after a couple of years, I now know them instinctively.

My sadistic desire is to push her closer to the edge of those terrors than she is willing or able to push herself. Just enough for her to see over the edge, while making sure she doesn't fall over. And on that edge, every twitch of my single-tail, every touch of my body, every expression on my face and every twitch of my lips, will trigger the emotional equivalent of an orgasm... and maybe an orgasm too.

It's just like fisting, except this time, I've got my whole body, my whole mind, deeply inside hers. And that makes the power rush ten times more powerful, and ten times as sweet.

HawkWolf

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RE: Sadistic Pleasure - 1/19/2008 5:41:22 PM   
MasterCurios


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Status: offline 		i am just confident in my abilities to take what they offer,and then in turn use it to my advantage. i take my subs/slaves right to the edge of what I think they can handle not what they think they can.just like the subs/slaves i can zone out while sceneing(meaning nothing matters but what i'm doing)paying close attention to an individual allows you to see somethings you might miss and this gives you a distinct advantage as to how far you can go.
this could go on and on.
                                                              Curios

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RE: Sadistic Pleasure - 1/19/2008 5:49:08 PM   
tigerstyle


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Status: offline 		One thing I'm coming to realize about this question is how deeply some subs perv on the idea of watching themselves be used through someone else's eyes. The question "what gets you off about hurting me" is asked with glowing eyes and panting breath. It's very odd to see someone looking at you and knowing that they are sort of projecting into your head to see themselves. I don't work that way, I'm not very concerned with the converse.

I'm sadistic because I'm violent and I have a lot of anger, especially against women. I could call it "an energy", but I prefer to call a spade a spade. My sexuality is tightly linked with anger and its expression-and vice versa.



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RE: Sadistic Pleasure - 1/19/2008 6:02:36 PM   
ownedgirlie


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Status: offline 		For me it's not "perving" on the idea, it's wanting to have as great an understanding as possible of my Master's perspective.  The better I understand him, the better I can serve him.  And since I simply love his lust, I like knowing what brings him that lust.

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