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RE: Name Dropping and a New Term "Time Dropping" - 1/18/2008 5:47:19 PM

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It depends on the context.

If the claim is pseudo historical and therefore vague (and often quite incorrect) then as I historian I must object to it.

If the claim is historical then time references are very necessary.

If it is a matter of experience and someone wants to say "I've been in the scene since 1980" or for what ever period of time I consider that useful information. Anyone can have an opinion, not all opinions though are based on experience or knowledge. As a reader I'd want to know where opinion came from especially if it masks itself as fact or universal.

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RE: Name Dropping and a New Term "Time Dropping" - 1/18/2008 5:52:59 PM

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SirJohnMandevill,

I'm sure you are a reasonable person and not a braggart about how much experience you have. I was making fun of those who are the braggarts. As in most things, it is the degree of reasonableness. You say you are a purveyor of handcrafted ancient kink and I take that in a reasonable way as a signature line.

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RE: Name Dropping and a New Term "Time Dropping" - 1/18/2008 9:00:39 PM

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Normally my reading comprehension is above average, but for the life of me, I cannot fathom what the OP has written, or why. Time dropping? Are you saying that someone who has experience should not say they do in units of time?? Huh?

I am tired...

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RE: Name Dropping and a New Term "Time Dropping" - 1/18/2008 9:04:17 PM

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All I know is that nostalgia isn't what it used to be...

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RE: Name Dropping and a New Term "Time Dropping" - 1/18/2008 9:30:52 PM

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I was there when me and grog discovered fire, found a vine ,drug a woman by the hair tied her to a tree and she grunted with joy .
Since i was thawed i have been also tagged and carbon dated for freshness .chuckles..
Still have no clue what came first the egg or the reptile . but i do know it was fire then the wheel .
On another note i do find it interesting when some tout their experience like i have 20 years RT and they show the age on a profile of 28 .

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RE: Name Dropping and a New Term "Time Dropping" - 1/18/2008 10:14:42 PM

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Yep, back in the great 12:55 A.M, all the bottoms were hardcore and the toughest of the tough, all the tops were renowned for their expertise with floggers and paddles that moved like a graceful gypsy dancing in the wind, all the slaves were the slavest of the slaves with no silly limits or rights to obstruct their service, and all the Masters were picture perfect idealization of Gods who walked the Earth, doing no wrong and gracing all that they touched....

Sigh...if only it was 12:55 A.M again and not the present time of 1:12 A.M with all its shallow and superficial swingers who have no greater understanding of the power of the true lifestyle and are solely out for thrill seeking...

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RE: Name Dropping and a New Term "Time Dropping" - 1/18/2008 10:21:19 PM

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ya know, I really prefered Collarme the way it used to be...

Some people need to learn to read and others need to either lay off or sell whatever it is they are smoking.

The point wasn't that any mention of the past was good, it was to create a term to describe when people are full of shit.

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RE: Name Dropping and a New Term "Time Dropping" - 1/18/2008 10:43:26 PM

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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

We have all heard of "name dropping" which in general means using the names of others to provide authority/experience/knowledge to yourself rather than earn it directly through your own actions. While cheesy, it does at least have the advantage that it can be verified.

I want to add a new term to the BDSM lexicon, "time dropping" which is much more insidious because it cannot be verified. "I remember when honor/respect/martians was better/deeper/harder etc." or whatever other bullshit the poster is spreading.

A person's opinion should stand on its own and not need the shoulders of people or in this case, the past, real or imagined to give it weight. Of course talking about people you know and times past have their place but like identifying pornography you might not be able to write the perfect definition but you can recognize it when you see it...

So, "time dropping"...yeah or nay?

Back in my day we could only drop half the time.... and we were grateful! (couldn't resist) :P

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RE: Name Dropping and a New Term "Time Dropping" - 1/18/2008 10:46:16 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael
it was to create a term to describe when people are full of shit.

SimplyMichael,
Please do not tell me You are suggesting i simply stop telling people they are full of shit???!!! Please don't make me use some politically correct verbage...Next to being able to tell someone they are a jackass, it's one of the few luxuries i have in life.... Please don't take it away...
*edited because the damned little smiley faces are messing with me!! Jackasses!!*

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RE: Name Dropping and a New Term "Time Dropping" - 1/19/2008 2:51:34 AM

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I can just see it now in 50 years...

"...Hmmmm Time Dropping.... I remember back in the day - I think it was in the naughties... when I was around when that term was created and I actually bantered with that creator on the CM message boards... that was before we ya had to pay for them.... ah.... .themwerethedays."

In all seriousness Michael, I don't need a term to tell people they are full of shit if I think they are full of shit. I just tell them they are full of shit. That kind of get's the point across in clear communication.
CM aint terminology heaven and we aren't the gods that fill it.

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RE: Name Dropping and a New Term "Time Dropping" - 1/19/2008 3:31:34 AM

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The point.............was to create a term to describe when people are full of shit.

How utterly pointless. Since when has it been your place to act as judge and jury in matters of "people's" behaviour?

You know, in order to share ideas and learn, person x respects the right of person y to put a point of view on the table.

The wise move would be to get your own house in order; the rest will resolve itself, and is, quite frankly, outside of your sphere of control.

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RE: Name Dropping and a New Term "Time Dropping" - 1/19/2008 4:44:19 AM

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Most folks here have no problem whatsoever with calling 'bullshit' without additional terms, clues, reasons, prejudices, or encouragment. i also see that most folks here are intelligent enough to know bullshit when they encounter it.... or like i used to say back in the old days 'i don't have to live on a farm to know manure when i smell it.'

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RE: Name Dropping and a New Term "Time Dropping" - 1/19/2008 5:01:24 AM

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Well, back when I was young... lol... I spent my time wishing I was older. Now that I'm older, I spend my time wishing I hadn't wished away my younger years...how's that for living in the past?

Ok...aside from that, if someone is bemoaning the fact that a time he or she remembers fondly has passed, in order to criticize those living in the here and now, or being the age that person was during their remembered time...I'm kind of the mind of "get over yourself."

And I once had a counselor coin the lovely phrase (we've all heard it, she just gave it a different meaning) "golden oldies." She said that it is normal to look back on a time and remember only what was golden about it. She cautioned me against the "golden oldies" because what we remember, while having some truth about it, was more often than not a fabrication, and while not an intentional fabrication, it was a fabrication nonetheless. We see a lot of "golden oldies" on these forums...

But that's human nature as well.

It's when the golden oldies stop us from growing that they cause problems.

Personally, I see "time dropping" in the same fashion as "name dropping." People who use the length of time they've been doing something to point out why someone else shouldn't be taken seriously. Just as in name dropping, I take time dropping with a grain of salt.

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RE: Name Dropping and a New Term "Time Dropping" - 1/19/2008 5:17:46 AM

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Bullshit by any other name is still Bullshit, I don't need a new terminology to call Bullshit when I see it.

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RE: Name Dropping and a New Term "Time Dropping" - 1/19/2008 5:24:36 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

ya know, I really prefered Collarme the way it used to be...

Some people need to learn to read and others need to either lay off or sell whatever it is they are smoking.

The point wasn't that any mention of the past was good, it was to create a term to describe when people are full of shit.

is that "time dropping"?

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RE: Name Dropping and a New Term "Time Dropping" - 1/19/2008 6:00:28 AM

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I agree with the last two posters.
If I think someone is full of shit then that's what I say.
BUT I have never read anything that is completely full of shit.
People are just at different points on their journey.
Your often full of shit Michael but you have a lot of potential.

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RE: Name Dropping and a New Term "Time Dropping" - 1/19/2008 6:41:45 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: SeeksOnlyOne

quote:

ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

ya know, I really prefered Collarme the way it used to be...

Some people need to learn to read and others need to either lay off or sell whatever it is they are smoking.

The point wasn't that any mention of the past was good, it was to create a term to describe when people are full of shit.

is that "time dropping"?

Yep and sarcasm too!

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RE: Name Dropping and a New Term "Time Dropping" - 1/19/2008 7:14:36 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

ya know, I really prefered Collarme the way it used to be...

Some people need to learn to read and others need to either lay off or sell whatever it is they are smoking.

The point wasn't that any mention of the past was good, it was to create a term to describe when people are full of shit.

I get your point.

On a theoretical forum like this where all the partcipants live on different parts of the planet and most likely have no means to validate any claim being given, references to names, times in history, years of experience, and chronical age are really kind of germane.

Unless they can make reference to things in North Carolina, South Carolina, or Georgia or have a few other people who regularly post on the boards who can consistently vouch for their factual history, any poster opening up with "Back in 1960 when slaves were becomming masters for the first time and the new model BYX3000 paddle was released...." isn't going to get much notice from me.

I tend to notice the exact opposite with people who show integrity. They tend to realize how any claims of lengthy experience equate to a bag of hot air on an Internet board like this.

Besides, a length of experience and exposure to others only means more of a chance that they are accurate and informed and never means they are above scrutiny or question.

ANYONE who responds to the statement "I disagree" with "What? I was tying slaves when you were born! I was present for the great Christening of the Old Guard Grand Pubbah of 52'!" is going to lose any creditbility with me.

Edited to Add : Not to mention that the BDSM and Leather History Book isn't exactly clear and concise. There is so many disagreements about what happened, when it happened, and if it ever happened, it's hard to be completely sure about anything.

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RE: Name Dropping and a New Term "Time Dropping" - 1/19/2008 7:24:51 AM

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Perhaps you should worry less about the behaviors of of others, and focus more on your own. Coming up with more negative terms to diss things you dislike really says more about you-than them.

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RE: Name Dropping and a New Term "Time Dropping" - 1/19/2008 7:42:17 AM

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All I know is that nostalgia isn't what it used to be...

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