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MadRabbit -> RE: Do you care if your slave is a whore? (1/20/2008 6:48:23 PM)

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

I would prefer to view your opinion through the lens of your youth instead of thinking you to be a judgmental and arrogant little turd.



Don't be so myopic. It could be both.

Personally, I try very hard to not get happy over the little things in my life like a warm bath or a good book so when I have something really big to get happy over, I don't cheapen it or lessen it.

I mean, honestly, if I got happy 50 times a day over a perfectly cooked egg sandwich or the newspaper not landing in the rain puddle, then how is that Big Screen TV gonna feel when I get happy over him?

I have to think about the Big Screen TV's insecurities. Here I am, spreading my happiness around to the egg sandwich and the newspaper and the bath. As we all know, human beings have a limited amount of emotion they can expend. How is that Big Screen TV supposed to feel special when I am out there like an unrighteous hussy, getting all happy with the egg sandwich and the newspaper?

This Big Screen TV's brand new. It's never made me happy before. It must be worried that it might not stand up when I have had so much experience with being made happy by the egg sandwich and the newspaper.

Hell, that TV might just end up getting sent back, because I might one day go "Man, fuck this High Definition with Surround Sound and 343 channels!"

"I want an egg sandwich."

This is why that TV only gets sent to people who have never been happy with an egg sandwich or a newspaper. That TV can't take any chances. A person who sincerely wants it and realizes its far better or not even on the same level as an egg sandwich is not solely enough. It has to be owned by someone who has zero past history with being happy with any small things. How else is that TV'S insecurities supposed to be soothed?

I'm not going to screw up my application for getting that TV with happiness over a friggin egg sandwich or newspaper!




giveeverything -> RE: Do you care if your slave is a whore? (1/20/2008 7:05:22 PM)

Actually, anyone who would view someone else as a whore simply for having more sexual partners is someone I would reject for their narrow minded viewpoint. I don't get involved with bigots in any way shape or form.[/quote]

So you do not believe that a greater number of sexual partners is indicative of a likely higher level of promiscuality*?

You know, it's funny.. I'm not even sure how to spell that last word.. (and I'm too cool for spell check. :P).

Define promiscuity. And I don't use spell check, don't need to.

BTW 5 of those 7 were in four years of college. Then there was the ex for over 20 years, and now The Man for the past 4+. Am I still promiscuous because I had 5 partners in 4 years time, and that time was over 20 years ago?

Why buy into this puritan line of thinking?  Why give it legitamacy?  Why discuss it as if having a certain number of partners make you more or less moral than another person?  This is exactly why these old school ways of thinking about sex and sexuality do not foster healthy sexuality in people... we all start adding up numbers as if they have any real meaning. 




CuriousLord -> RE: Do you care if your slave is a whore? (1/20/2008 8:22:01 PM)

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

I am sure your opinion is valid in your mind, but it is not valid in mine...


I hope you become more open minded sometime.




SimplyMichael -> RE: Do you care if your slave is a whore? (1/20/2008 8:24:53 PM)

I think in all my time on CM this is by far the most offensive thread I have ever read here.




CuriousLord -> RE: Do you care if your slave is a whore? (1/20/2008 8:27:37 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

Don't you think people can redefine themselves. Can change? Do you think that if a person got involved in drugs in middle school, did rehab and hasn't touched an illegal drug in 10 years that they are still a lying, cheating, untrustworthy addict? Or can you accept the fact that people change?


People can change in a lot of ways, sure.  But people are also more likely to be like what they once were.

Say, for instance, we take 10 college-sluts and 10 college nerds.  By age 40, I'm willing to bet you that, even if there is some cross over, the group of 10 nerds is far more likely to have less sluts in it.

So, sure, people can change.  But if you had to pick, based on limitted data.. and you're like me, not attracted to sluts.. then it's easier to just pick a nerd, because, well, the odds are with you, you know?




CuriousLord -> RE: Do you care if your slave is a whore? (1/20/2008 8:30:17 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

I think in all my time on CM this is by far the most offensive thread I have ever read here.


I had no idea people were so senstive.  =/

Ah wells.  So you're into people with vaginas more than dicks, right?  And some people here are more into sluts than non-sluts (it's a kink, apparently).  So just what's wrong with being into non-sluts..?




breatheasone -> RE: Do you care if your slave is a whore? (1/20/2008 8:33:13 PM)

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So, sure, people can change. But if you had to pick, based on limitted data.. and you're like me, not attracted to sluts.. then it's easier to just pick a nerd, because, well, the odds are with you, you know?

This couldn't be more wrong....I was very promiscuous in my teens. I married at age 20. I have been faithful to my husband for 24 years. Slut?...no, not anymore.




CuriousLord -> RE: Do you care if your slave is a whore? (1/20/2008 8:36:03 PM)

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ORIGINAL: breatheasone
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So, sure, people can change. But if you had to pick, based on limitted data.. and you're like me, not attracted to sluts.. then it's easier to just pick a nerd, because, well, the odds are with you, you know?
This couldn't be more wrong....I was very promiscuous in my teens. I married at age 20. I have been faithful to my husband for 24 years. Slut?...no, not anymore.


I'm not really sure if what people do in their teen years is really a good place to judge them..




goodgirl08 -> RE: Do you care if your slave is a whore? (1/20/2008 8:43:01 PM)


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ORIGINAL: CuriousLord

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ORIGINAL: breatheasone
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So, sure, people can change. But if you had to pick, based on limitted data.. and you're like me, not attracted to sluts.. then it's easier to just pick a nerd, because, well, the odds are with you, you know?
This couldn't be more wrong....I was very promiscuous in my teens. I married at age 20. I have been faithful to my husband for 24 years. Slut?...no, not anymore.


I'm not really sure if what people do in their teen years is really a good place to judge them..


So if a girl slept with THREE TO NINE people in her teen years, would you judge her the same way?

Interesting how you acknowledge a period of your life in which you were a "man whore" - ie, a period of experimentation - but you are not willing to accept the same in a woman. Maybe in line with your hatred of religion, you could break out of the gender binary, too...[;)]




CuriousLord -> RE: Do you care if your slave is a whore? (1/20/2008 8:47:19 PM)

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ORIGINAL: goodgirl08

So if a girl slept with THREE TO NINE people in her teen years, would you judge her the same way?

Interesting how you acknowledge a period of your life in which you were a "man whore" - ie, a period of experimentation - but you are not willing to accept the same in a woman. Maybe in line with your hatred of religion, you could break out of the gender binary, too...[;)]


*Sigh.*  You can't accuse me of a double standard if you read the thread.  I was acting a "man whore"- jokingly- for an afternoon.

And, besides.  I'm sexually attracted to submissive women, not dominant ones.  But I, myself, am dominant.  Does this mean I'm a sexist there, too?  What about my like of women who are shorter?  Am I a sexist there, too?  What about how I perfer my women to have boobs, where I myself don't?  Is that also sexist?

Forgive me, I'm just so confused about why people seem to be having such a hard time getting this.




juliaoceania -> RE: Do you care if your slave is a whore? (1/20/2008 9:01:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: CuriousLord

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

I am sure your opinion is valid in your mind, but it is not valid in mine...


I hope you become more open minded sometime.


I would expect this, since you cannot address my point of view, but instead seem hell bent on remaining married to your own.

And I have decided, if your view is the "open minded"one, I prefer to keep my own closed.




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Do you care if your slave is a whore? (1/20/2008 9:02:48 PM)

CL- I'm getting the idea that you don't believe a person can be very slutty and actively promiscuous AND have long term serious committed relationships?

Because I certainly can and do.




CuriousLord -> RE: Do you care if your slave is a whore? (1/20/2008 9:04:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

I would expect this, since you cannot address my point of view, but instead seem hell bent on remaining married to your own.

And I have decided, if your view is the "open minded"one, I prefer to keep my own closed.


*Sigh.*  No, you just tell me that my opinions don't matter because I'm young.  You've already closed your mind, so what's the point of trying to make an argument?

Just don't accuse me of being the one that's married to their opinions.  I mean, hell, you just said you'd perfer to keep your mind closed than accept the possibility that mine has some validity.

I get I'm the younger one, but it's kind of hard to feel like it when you act this way.




juliaoceania -> RE: Do you care if your slave is a whore? (1/20/2008 9:06:10 PM)

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I mean, honestly, if I got happy 50 times a day over a perfectly cooked egg sandwich or the newspaper not landing in the rain puddle, then how is that Big Screen TV gonna feel when I get happy over him?



The TV is going to believe you cannot commit because you enjoyed the egg sandwich so much.




CuriousLord -> RE: Do you care if your slave is a whore? (1/20/2008 9:07:02 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

CL- I'm getting the idea that you don't believe a person can be very slutty and actively promiscuous AND have long term serious committed relationships?

Because I certainly can and do.


Hah, of course not!  Just not with me.  I'm into monogamy.

What I don't get is why people keep acting like I'm bashing sluts.  I'm just not attracted to them.  I mean, is that so wrong?  I'm not attracted to dominant people, either.. does this mean I hate Dom's?




juliaoceania -> RE: Do you care if your slave is a whore? (1/20/2008 9:10:58 PM)

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ORIGINAL: CuriousLord

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

I would expect this, since you cannot address my point of view, but instead seem hell bent on remaining married to your own.

And I have decided, if your view is the "open minded"one, I prefer to keep my own closed.


*Sigh.*  No, you just tell me that my opinions don't matter because I'm young.  You've already closed your mind, so what's the point of trying to make an argument?

Just don't accuse me of being the one that's married to their opinions.  I mean, hell, you just said you'd perfer to keep your mind closed than accept the possibility that mine has some validity.

I get I'm the younger one, but it's kind of hard to feel like it when you act this way.


MadRabbit was right, I was being myopic in my view of you. Being young is not an insult to you, being inexperienced is not an insult to you. It is a statement of fact, you are both young and inexperienced. There is no crime in either thing. There is nothing wrong with having a preference for innocence, because innocent women would probably be best for you to grow and learn with... nothing wrong in wanting what you are... evenly yoked and all that jazz...

Where I take exception with your ideas is when you denigrate others with them, but then again, people are allowed to have whatever sexist, bigoted, nasty, meanspirited, stereotypical ideas they like in this world...

You are right, you probably will not outgrow it, my bad, I would like to think you had lots of room to grow and mature being you are only 20. I suppose you are as smart or smarter than you will ever be, and if that is so, pity pity




CuriousLord -> RE: Do you care if your slave is a whore? (1/20/2008 9:12:18 PM)

Forgive me, julia, but I'm not sinking to that level.

Peace.




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Do you care if your slave is a whore? (1/20/2008 9:12:52 PM)

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ORIGINAL: CuriousLord
Hah, of course not!  Just not with me.  I'm into monogamy.

What I don't get is why people keep acting like I'm bashing sluts.  I'm just not attracted to them.  I mean, is that so wrong?  I'm not attracted to dominant people, either.. does this mean I hate Dom's?

A lot of what you've said in this thread goes way beyond just "I'm not attracted to people who have a lot of sex with a lot of people." 




fluffyswitch -> RE: Do you care if your slave is a whore? (1/20/2008 9:14:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: CuriousLord

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

CL- I'm getting the idea that you don't believe a person can be very slutty and actively promiscuous AND have long term serious committed relationships?

Because I certainly can and do.


Hah, of course not!  Just not with me.  I'm into monogamy.


the issue isn't about whether or not you're into monogamy. the issue is that you tend to come across as painting people with a broad brush as well as being more concerned with the number of partners and not the quality of partners---serial monogamy will rack up just as many partners as one night stands. and the fact of the matter is--you are coming across as being more than slightly unwilling to open up to why others are responding to you in the manner they are. i'm all for having you're own opinion but you have to be willing accept why other people find it offensive and be able to defend it without resorting to having to call others insensitive. you're perfectly free to reject partners based on the number of partners that they've had but keep in mind there's going to be a lot of people who are going to reject you in the process including people who could potentially be very good for you, as well as helping you define and develop your own sexuality.

and as an assault survivor, your attitude is valiant but work on your delivery.




CuriousLord -> RE: Do you care if your slave is a whore? (1/20/2008 9:15:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

A lot of what you've said in this thread goes way beyond just "I'm not attracted to people who have a lot of sex with a lot of people."


I've given reasons.. and voiced an opinion that people are more likely to remain the same than change..

..but is there something else that's hurtful somehow?  I mean, I'd like to disspell any misunderstandings or apologize for anything I said which may've been harsh.




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