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CuriousLord -> RE: Do you care if your slave is a whore? (1/20/2008 9:45:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AquaticSub quote: ORIGINAL: CuriousLord It does, but doesn't it also make sense to acknowledge a coorelation between the two? It's like saying "I'm only attracted to thin woman" as opposed to "Tubs of lard make me gag". Sure they mean relatively the same thing, but one is offensive and the other isn't. While I realize this isn't your intent, when you say "Having a lot of previous partners cheapens love-making in my opinion" you are basically saying that in your opinion the love-making of a woman with a lot of previous partners isn't as good as one who doesn't have a lot of previous partners. And, while is may be true for you in your relationships, it's like coming on the board and saying "All men should serve all women" - it's going to offend somebody. But I mean I'm not making a blanket statement about everyone else.. just what I like.. Like, I'd never say "All women should serve all men", but I would say "I perfer women who serve me". Bah.. but, come to think of it, outside of this community, I'm sure that would piss off a lot of women.

fluffyswitch -> RE: Do you care if your slave is a whore? (1/20/2008 9:45:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MissMagnolia Stop being jocular dc. You're confusing the customers.[:D] unfortunately in my case it doesn't take much...sigh. lol.

dcnovice -> RE: Do you care if your slave is a whore? (1/20/2008 9:46:21 PM)
quote: Stop being jocular dc. You're confusing the customers. Sorry, MM. They seemed to need a smile. Whether they got one from the post is anyone's guess, of course.

breatheasone -> RE: Do you care if your slave is a whore? (1/20/2008 9:47:10 PM)
At the risk of getting beat up....... I believe I MAY understand the "cheapening" love making POV. Look at diamonds....they are rare and very valuable because of that. If everyone could buy diamonds at 7-11 then they wouldn't be as valuable would they? They would be "cheapened if they were so available.... runs for cover.......[:(]

chiaThePet -> RE: Do you care if your slave is a whore? (1/20/2008 9:47:34 PM)
Who's on first? chia* (the pet)

fluffyswitch -> RE: Do you care if your slave is a whore? (1/20/2008 9:47:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CuriousLord But I mean I'm not making a blanket statement about everyone else.. just what I like.. the blanket statement, or at least the blanket implication, is that people/women who have more partners than that are beneath you morally or at least are too beneath you to be worth your time. again i think the issue is semantics more than anything else. not that i agree with you but again i think it's all in the wording.

AquaticSub -> RE: Do you care if your slave is a whore? (1/20/2008 9:48:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: breatheasone At the risk of getting beat up....... I believe I MAY understand the "cheapening" love making POV. Look at diamonds....they are rare and very valuable because of that. If everyone could buy diamonds at 7-11 then they wouldn't be as valuable would they? They would be "cheapened if they were so available.... runs for cover.......[:(] Well, if you want to get specific, diamonds aren't all that rare. They are just heavily controlled. The prices are heavily inflated. [:D]

CuriousLord -> RE: Do you care if your slave is a whore? (1/20/2008 9:48:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: fluffyswitch quote: ORIGINAL: CuriousLord It seems like I'm overgeneralizing? So people aren't getting that I'm not saying sluttiness vs. non-sluttiness is the big almighty factor..? 1. yep 2. again the problem is in your delivery. you hint at that but then you make some really strong statements that come across as being slightly/more than slightly offensive or could be at the very least. Meh, I guess I just expected people to realize we're talking about slutiness vs. non-sluttiness on this thread. On a boob thread, I'd have said I perferred more normal sized boobs to very big ones.. but I wouldn't mean that as an end-all statement, either.. that'd just have been the topic. Ah wells. No intent to preach to you.. I guess you get what I mean already. :P I guess I'll just have to put more disclaimers on things in the future so I don't end up hurting any thin skin again.

lalbobbilynn -> RE: Do you care if your slave is a whore? (1/20/2008 9:49:21 PM)
Decided to check the boards after a long weekend in Canada at Sir's ..... in reading this whole thread i have found that i must be a comprehension whore as i find my agreement to run paralell with Ms julia, as well as LA ...... not to mention a host of others with that line of thinking. If Your standing CL, is that a whore equals a prostitute ..... then it is safe to equate that mindset to...... in some fashion we all "sell ourselves for base purposes". Is safe to say CL, You seem to be a minute-man-on-the-boards-type-whore ....... just my lil' ol humble opinion ...... Sir. Is okay, i assure You .... spoke to the Father at my church about this very topic in confession last Saturday ...... stand proud Sir ...... Jesus loves us whores too, even if we are sorrowful Catholics!!!! i must confess i am a lotion whore (a good lotion is diffult to pass up!!), a library whore (a good book is impossible to pass by!!), and a whore in any form that my Sir may desire. On a different note .... although i was raped thus making me a survivor of said act, not a victim ..... i am fully aware that such a crime is based on power, nevertheless the ripple effects run deeply into my present sexual acts. Be easy on Yourself CL ..... life is to short to be so jaded so young darlin!!!!!!! b.~

fluffyswitch -> RE: Do you care if your slave is a whore? (1/20/2008 9:49:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: breatheasone At the risk of getting beat up....... I believe I MAY understand the "cheapening" love making POV. Look at diamonds....they are rare and very valuable because of that. If everyone could buy diamonds at 7-11 then they wouldn't be as valuable would they? They would be "cheapened if they were so available.... runs for cover.......[:(] no it makes sense, but at the same time just because someone has a lot of partners doesn't mean that they necessarily didn't have romantic attachments to those partners at the time. it may be that looking back the attachment wasn't as strong or true as it seemed then but that doesn't mean that it wasn't valid at the time.

CuriousLord -> RE: Do you care if your slave is a whore? (1/20/2008 9:50:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: fluffyswitch the blanket statement, or at least the blanket implication, is that people/women who have more partners than that are beneath you morally or at least are too beneath you to be worth your time. again i think the issue is semantics more than anything else. not that i agree with you but again i think it's all in the wording. I think people are paranoid that that's what I mean so they're taking it that way.. All I've said is that they're not right for me and why. I know I've said it probably about a dozen times now that I didn't mean it's an absolute or moral thing. (I even made a post just about it a couple pages back so no one would misunderstand. :P)

fluffyswitch -> RE: Do you care if your slave is a whore? (1/20/2008 9:52:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CuriousLord quote: ORIGINAL: fluffyswitch quote: ORIGINAL: CuriousLord It seems like I'm overgeneralizing? So people aren't getting that I'm not saying sluttiness vs. non-sluttiness is the big almighty factor..? 1. yep 2. again the problem is in your delivery. you hint at that but then you make some really strong statements that come across as being slightly/more than slightly offensive or could be at the very least. Meh, I guess I just expected people to realize we're talking about slutiness vs. non-sluttiness on this thread. On a boob thread, I'd have said I perferred more normal sized boobs to very big ones.. but I wouldn't mean that as an end-all statement, either.. that'd just have been the topic. Ah wells. No intent to preach to you.. I guess you get what I mean already. :P I guess I'll just have to put more disclaimers on things in the future so I don't end up hurting any thin skin again. disclaimers are your friend! disclaimers are your friend! that said i'm a feminist soc major doing work in sexual deviance ( again deviance is NOT a negative term by definition) i'm used to being challenged and yelled at lol, i'm used to it so like i said i don't necessarily agree with you but i think i'm getting where your problem here lies...

giveeverything -> RE: Do you care if your slave is a whore? (1/20/2008 9:52:28 PM)
I'm with LA on this... and interestingly.. you haven't addressed issues that you didn't seem emotional. I asked you some rational questions.. you choose not answer them... makes me wonder.

fluffyswitch -> RE: Do you care if your slave is a whore? (1/20/2008 9:54:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CuriousLord quote: ORIGINAL: fluffyswitch the blanket statement, or at least the blanket implication, is that people/women who have more partners than that are beneath you morally or at least are too beneath you to be worth your time. again i think the issue is semantics more than anything else. not that i agree with you but again i think it's all in the wording. I think people are paranoid that that's what I mean so they're taking it that way.. All I've said is that they're not right for me and why. I know I've said it probably about a dozen times now that I didn't mean it's an absolute or moral thing. (I even made a post just about it a couple pages back so no one would misunderstand. :P) the joy of communication is that people will respond to what they want to hear and not necessarily what they are hearing. the other thing to keep in mind is that a lot of times posts come across as a lot more emotional than they may seem. at the same time they might be as emotional. you never know. note: not claiming that;s what's going on here, since i really don't like this attitude anymore than some of the other posters on this thread.

CuriousLord -> RE: Do you care if your slave is a whore? (1/20/2008 10:01:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: fluffyswitch note: not claiming that;s what's going on here, since i really don't like this attitude anymore than some of the other posters on this thread. You may not like how I feel, but you're decent about it. That's admirable. Trust me, I'm not always into what sadists and masochists do. I sometimes have to look the other way when I see some man talking about how much power he feels when he ties a small girl up and beats her and cuts her and degrades her down to being a worthless creature ("Humilation"). But, at some point, I just have to accept that that's how they feel and it's consentual all around.

fluffyswitch -> RE: Do you care if your slave is a whore? (1/20/2008 10:05:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CuriousLord quote: ORIGINAL: fluffyswitch note: not claiming that;s what's going on here, since i really don't like this attitude anymore than some of the other posters on this thread. You may not like how I feel, but you're decent about it. That's admirable. shrug. we all pick and choose our battles.

beargonewild -> RE: Do you care if your slave is a whore? (1/20/2008 10:07:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: fluffyswitch quote: ORIGINAL: breatheasone At the risk of getting beat up....... I believe I MAY understand the "cheapening" love making POV. Look at diamonds....they are rare and very valuable because of that. If everyone could buy diamonds at 7-11 then they wouldn't be as valuable would they? They would be "cheapened if they were so available.... runs for cover.......[:(] no it makes sense, but at the same time just because someone has a lot of partners doesn't mean that they necessarily didn't have romantic attachments to those partners at the time. it may be that looking back the attachment wasn't as strong or true as it seemed then but that doesn't mean that it wasn't valid at the time. That may be the case yet it also boils down to sticking to a common definition of a whore and going from there. Each people uses their own definition when they deem someone is a whore/slut/tramp, etc based upon the number of sexual liaisons they had. Granted many males do relish being labeled a man whore, others don't. I mean hell, I've been called one and I admit I also refer to myself as a man whore at times! My former owner had no problem sharing me out to his friends for sexual services, so in that aspect, I was being whored out. Granted some will see that and look upon me in a bad light, but eh, that is their opinion and not mine. I personally don't have any issues over that and know that life goes on. I see where CL is coming from and do have a good idea what he is trying to get across. Even if his opinions clash with mine, I do respect the fact that he knows what he wants in the type of partner and he knows what his preferences are. I wish I did when I was his age!

CuriousLord -> RE: Do you care if your slave is a whore? (1/20/2008 10:09:26 PM)
I really do think it's kind of close-minded to dislike someone for their sexual perference when it doesn't hurt anyone. So it does seem kinda like a silly battle. :P Just to be clear.. if it in any way feels like this.. if you happen to have had a lot of sexual partners before, I'm not looking down at you for it and there's nothing morally wrong with it in my eyes. (And if you haven't happened to, that's cool, too. Point being, there's no judgement on you or anyone else here. Something I wish was understood by everyone from the get-go.) I hope the evening goes well for you. :)

weneedyourhelp -> RE: Do you care if your slave is a whore? (1/20/2008 10:12:26 PM)
Fast reply: Ok I have to step in here..IMHO this thread should have been over and done this morning. The OP's question has long been lost in a sea of sluttyness and whoreishness. The biggest being the one(I said it this morning, I'll say it again) attention whore CL who just cant seem to let it go. Numbers do not matter, the past does not matter, what matters is the here and now and where it will lead.

fluffyswitch -> RE: Do you care if your slave is a whore? (1/20/2008 10:13:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: beargonewild quote: ORIGINAL: fluffyswitch quote: ORIGINAL: breatheasone At the risk of getting beat up....... I believe I MAY understand the "cheapening" love making POV. Look at diamonds....they are rare and very valuable because of that. If everyone could buy diamonds at 7-11 then they wouldn't be as valuable would they? They would be "cheapened if they were so available.... runs for cover.......[:(] no it makes sense, but at the same time just because someone has a lot of partners doesn't mean that they necessarily didn't have romantic attachments to those partners at the time. it may be that looking back the attachment wasn't as strong or true as it seemed then but that doesn't mean that it wasn't valid at the time. . Granted some will see that and look upon me in a bad light, but eh, that is their opinion and not mine. I personally don't have any issues over that and know that life goes on. I see where CL is coming from and do have a good idea what he is trying to get across. Even if his opinions clash with mine, I do respect the fact that he knows what he wants in the type of partner and he knows what his preferences are. I wish I did when I was his age! it took me a long time to come to terms with the fact that i'm both sexual and poly and have had to deal with the backlash from some of my 'friends' (who at the same time seem to have no problems with hitting on me to get some 'play') so i understand the joys of dealing with that aspect of it. i'm fine with it for the most part and generally just try to live life the way i have to try to keep myself hapy. and yeah i have to admit i would rather have someone be up front with their desires than saying one thing to my face and another behind my back, since that never ends well.

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