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RE: High Protocol Board - 7/14/2004 4:37:18 AM

TallDarkAndWitty

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ORIGINAL: baileythorne
Actually, I know that ring as a slave ring. It signals to those who know that you are owned. I'm surprised to see you wearing it.

Yep, I am sure it can be taken that way, I just love the way it looks and have no trouble with people mistaking me for a slave. *smile* I think, in some ways, it is symbolic of all the things I have given up to follow my passions in the lifestyle. Submitting to the dynamic in a real 24/7 way.

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RE: High Protocol Board - 7/14/2004 5:48:06 AM

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I'm rather surprised that there haven't been more 'pro' high protocol folks jumping in. We've certainly been hit over the head enough with it to date. Maybe if we called it 'gorean'? <shrug> I'm not one of the high protocol people, so I really don't know what makes them tick.

As for Bailey's notion of having such parties and letting them evolve, I think perhaps she and I are twins on another plane of existance. When I had my studio I put a call out to folks asking how many would be interested in the occasional "gorean" party, high protocol rules, etc. The responses were amazingly sparse, considering the number of folks who professed to come to the scene via gor. I too thought that allowing it to evolve was a good idea. But then, most of my parties are set up that way and always have been.

I never posted dungeon monitors/master/mistresses. I did, however, have people who were always around and willing to pitch in when something was needed. My parties were, to my mind, incredibly successful. I often had to limit participation to 70 due to space limitations and would always end up with 10 to 15 crashers anyway. I count that as successful. Anyway, I tried to set the tone by my mode of participation, which is quite relaxed and welcoming. These parties always took on a life of their own. Sometimes I'd have 40 people having a fabulous time and nobody would play, other times I'd have 15 people there and some of the most incredible and edgy play would crop up. The times with 80 or so folks always seemed to be a pleasant mix.

My point is that allowing groups to define themself works very well for me. But if those who would like something to be this way or that way don't speak up then how is anyone to know what their preferences are?

Perhaps it's ("it" being a place for high protocol on collarme) not as important as we (or I, if you prefer) have been led to believe (which is fine by me).

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RE: High Protocol Board - 7/14/2004 6:22:58 AM

MizSuz

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quote:

ORIGINAL: topcat

Madame-

Instead of a "High Protocol" board, why not a "Proper Spelling and Grammar" board? Or better yet a "Poorly Written, Difficult to read" Board?

Stay Warm,

Lawrence

BAAAAHAHAHA OMG...how did I miss this?!?

Your suggestion is better, I think.

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RE: High Protocol Board - 7/14/2004 8:23:22 AM

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ORIGINAL: MizSuz

BAAAAHAHAHA OMG...how did I miss this?!?

Your suggestion is better, I think.

Oh wow... I missed it too!

Seriously, my favorite solution to all the 'high protocol' conversation... comes in the form of a tiny red hand at the bottom left hand corner of the posters window. Every now and then I peek to see if I've missed anything...have a chuckle, and then put it away. It's a bit like a playboy magazine for a 12 year old boy - you feel too guilty reading it.

Stephan

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RE: High Protocol Board - 7/14/2004 9:31:04 AM

Leonidas

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I think it would be hard. If you really wanted to do it, you would have to do the following:

1. Decide what the protocol is. There are several sub-cultures that value protocol highly, and their protocols are different. Which one are we going to enforce?
2. Assign a moderator or moderators who know the chosen protocol well, and will fairly apply it when issues of protocol arise.
3. Get ready for a long, sharp, deafening chorus of "it's not fair!!!, I have as much right to <fill in the blank> as anyone". Filling the mailboxes of the site owners, adminstrators, and anyone else who even might posess a sympathetic ear, not to mention the other forums.

Forums like that only work with subcultures, and even then, they are subject to periodic schisms. I have watched board after board over the years rise in popularity, get mired in in-fighting, and then split into fragments of the original, most of which die off. It happened on nntp even before there was a worldwide web.

Take care of yourselves.

Leonidas

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RE: High Protocol Board - 7/14/2004 10:06:38 AM

Sinergy

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Hello,

When I was dancing in college I found it rather easy to sink into the idea that I was a slave to my muse. In some respects I feel the same way about teaching women's self defense. I posted on another board about Chivalry being something I see as being a higher calling for myself, and saw that concept trashed as being a submissive one.

You know, they work for me, and since it is all about me...

It is just my opinion and I could be wrong.

Sinergy

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RE: High Protocol Board - 7/14/2004 10:14:21 AM

Leonidas

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I am completely at a loss here. Were you responding to what I wrote in this thread, or some other thread?

Take care of yourself,

Leonidas

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RE: High Protocol Board - 7/14/2004 10:20:31 AM

Sinergy

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quote:

Yep, I am sure it can be taken that way, I just love the way it looks and have no trouble with people mistaking me for a slave. *smile* I think, in some ways, it is symbolic of all the things I have given up to follow my passions in the lifestyle. Submitting to the dynamic in a real 24/7 way.

I was responding to this post.

I apologize for not being more clear.

Sinergy

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RE: High Protocol Board - 7/14/2004 10:37:14 AM

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I may be wrong, but I think he is responding to Taggard's comments about his ring? ::laughing:: and Topcat, I love your idea, but then you also have to learn all the vairations of the words used by those who do not speak American as their fist language. And yes Sir, I do mean *American*, because it's my friends that speak proper English that spell common words the different the most often....

Taggard, I love the ring, and agree that it's a very appropriate thing for a dominant to wear. It shows they *own* themselves,,,,

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RE: High Protocol Board - 7/14/2004 4:16:20 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Voltare

Every now and then I peek to see if I've missed anything...have a chuckle, and then put it away. It's a bit like a playboy magazine for a 12 year old boy - you feel too guilty reading it.

Stephan

Or a train wreck?

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RE: High Protocol Board - 7/14/2004 4:25:31 PM

Tigresss

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Hello Everyone,

I would really appreciate it if someone would explain to me and give me examples of exactly what you mean by a 'High Protocol Board'? I am at a total loss here.

Thanks,
Tigress

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RE: High Protocol Board - 7/14/2004 4:42:43 PM

MizSuz

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Tigresss

Hello Everyone,

I would really appreciate it if someone would explain to me and give me examples of exactly what you mean by a 'High Protocol Board'? I am at a total loss here.

Thanks,
Tigress

Tigresss:

To my mind it's a board where everyone agrees to call dominants "Master, Mistress, Sir, Ma'am, etc." and I suppose subs and slaves could be called...sub or slave?

Ever been to a chatroom where subs speak in third person, request permission to enter and leave the room (silly, they're already in), always defer to the dominant...etc???

If you peruse some of the older threads on these boards you'll see a few examples of folks trying to get other folks to come aboard to this mindset. It seems to me that the vast majority of posters are NOT amenable to this (me being one of them), but to each his own I suppose.

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RE: High Protocol Board - 7/14/2004 5:01:41 PM

Tigresss

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MizSuz,

Thank You for taking the time to respond.

I personally would not support or participate in such a forum as I have very strong opinions against such a thing, however, just as I am able to walk away from a scene (session) that I may not want to witness I am able to use ignore buttons in chat rooms and to avoid going to places where this type of thing is the focus.

Thanks Again,
Tigress

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RE: High Protocol Board - 7/14/2004 5:14:26 PM

MizSuz

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Tigresss

MizSuz,

Thank You for taking the time to respond.

I personally would not support or participate in such a forum as I have very strong opinions against such a thing, however, just as I am able to walk away from a scene (session) that I may not want to witness I am able to use ignore buttons in chat rooms and to avoid going to places where this type of thing is the focus.

Thanks Again,
Tigress

That would seem to be the general consensus, if the responses here are indicative of such. As I said previously, it's curious to me that those who have in the past seemed to support such a position have been quiet on this thread.

Not having one works for me, and in the future if someone complains I can refer them to this thread.

Be well.

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RE: High Protocol Board - 7/14/2004 5:51:00 PM

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Maybe an easier thing to do would be to start a high protocol chat room on collarme. It wouldn't be for me but some of you may enjoy it.

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RE: High Protocol Board - 7/15/2004 5:46:58 AM

ModeratorOne

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We use an IRC server for our chats so anyone can start their own chatroom with whatever rules they want.

The problem with the chatrooms is that its rare anyone will go into another room outside the lobby.

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RE: High Protocol Board - 7/15/2004 8:42:53 AM

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The problem with the chatrooms is that its rare anyone will go into another room outside the lobby.

My problem is that it takes about 10 min to load the chat room. I do go to the lobby a lot but I find it hard to get to know the people there. I am more comfortable on the message boards. Maybe a "message board" chat would be fun, i feel i know the people here.

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RE: High Protocol Board - 7/15/2004 8:46:42 AM

ModeratorOne

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Are you on a dial up?

We can always try scheduled chats on certain topics if anyone wants to volunteer to host them.

Not sure if anyone would come, but it might be a good chance to meet more people.

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RE: High Protocol Board - 7/15/2004 8:57:37 AM

Voltare

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quote:

ORIGINAL: ModeratorOne

Are you on a dial up?

We can always try scheduled chats on certain topics if anyone wants to volunteer to host them.

Not sure if anyone would come, but it might be a good chance to meet more people.

Actually, I had considered making a post to this effect a couple days ago. I think if we schedualed chats a few nights a week, with a specific topic it would be extremely popular.

Like proudsub, I've found the actual chat system being used on this site to be...erm... less then effective. If you're using an IRC server, perhaps information on how to make use of an IRC client would be helpful (i.e. a page that I'd be hapy to create detailing where/how to download an IRC client, how to set it up, and how to connect to the collarme.com server?) Otherwise, I have a couple of php driven chat interfaces that may be a little more effective or less buggy that might be worth a try?

Just suggestions...

Stephan

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RE: High Protocol Board - 7/15/2004 10:56:35 AM

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greetings bailey,

was reading thru your post and wondered if you've ever participated in a high protocol dinner?
it's truly an amazing site in the Leather world.

The one that was held at Master's Retreat 6 in Dallas last year called for all the sub/slaves of the
Master and Mistresses to be the waitress/waiters of the High Leather Dinner.

all the sub/slaves were in white tux shirts, black bow ties, black slacks or skirt (m/f), polished boots/shoes
ect. we were taught to properly serve as well as how to make the leather roses that were placed at
each setting and the proper way to set the table.

anyway.... just wondered what you'd experienced and how it went.

When Master ko'lared me a few weeks prior to the MR6, all of the Leather family showed up in
HIGH LEATHER .... to a basically lesbian/hetro sexual dungeons....( few gays came to that location because
there is another more gay/lesbian/hetro sexual dungeon that most gays prefer.) You could feel the
air being sucked right out of everyone there but the people who were involved in the ko'laring.
Will never forget everyone looking at stormi and whispering OMG... .DOES she KNOW THEM????
It was hugs and kisses all the way around... LOL...

Have a good one bailey, stormi enjoys reading your post.

be well,
stormi
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