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RE: It's beginning to look at lot like Nutterville arou... - 8/31/2005 12:31:52 PM   
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i taught this lesson to my kid; better a fine Irish linen hankie as a present than something cheaply made. We have always stuck by this, even during very lean times, such as when i was in law school. In the end, quality is a far superior value over quantity...in objects..in food...and in people.

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RE: It's beginning to look at lot like Nutterville arou... - 8/31/2005 12:35:29 PM   
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Oh yes Raven... any ole woman will do for you I am sure, You know you do not agree in WIITWD, so why not stick with your own in Fantasy land?...So you can treat them like trash, in that good ole Gorean way !

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Good Lord! What brought this on? Raven seems ok to me..what am i missing? Why the major flame? All's He said was a woman's beauty would not move Him if she were an ugly person inside..i feel the same about the One is seek.

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RE: It's beginning to look at lot like Nutterville arou... - 8/31/2005 12:38:18 PM   
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So your solution to help solve this problem is making a worthless,useless thread???

Instead of making a thread on something you think would be a good idea or would that be an intelligent idea??

Imtempting


Who the hell would flame Imtempting? Such a lovely person...never unkind...what the hell?

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RE: It's beginning to look at lot like Nutterville arou... - 8/31/2005 1:12:45 PM   
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I fail to see the value or sence in the attacks on Raven or his girl/s. It has no value in the thread, nor does Gor bashing. I can however understand the OP in as far as the lack of really informative threads designed to teach and help. The powers that be know we have enough places for humour and light popstings. That was why I made the suggestion that we perhaps need a Flame Wars Forum where y'all can get the shit out of your liver without trying to screw good threads.

IronBear


i am impressed with what Raven said; i see nothing to flame Him over...and i see no reason to bring any personal issues to the boards and flame someone over them.

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RE: It's beginning to look at lot like Nutterville arou... - 8/31/2005 1:24:21 PM   
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Greetings,

Like I always say.........you get what you pay for. Shop cheap....get cheap.

Raven


I have to admit I wasn't sure of what you meant by this response. All other negative posts aside, what exactly did you mean? I'd really like to know.

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RE: It's beginning to look at lot like Nutterville arou... - 8/31/2005 2:39:08 PM   
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So are you actually interested in the topic or flaming me? and other people as it seems as all your doing...


imtempting...I found your responce to Lily as inapropriate and slightly meanspirited(was that a responce to her post or a slap in the face?), thus I allowed my icky mood to throw it back at you.....which is silly, because what I know of Lily, she is very capable of taking care of herself!

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RE: It's beginning to look at lot like Nutterville arou... - 8/31/2005 2:51:27 PM   
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It is always good to try and keep on the OP and not start flames,don't you think?


Very true Mod 10...I have trouble when feeling someone has been hurtful or a smart-ass in their responces, to implusively want to throw it right back.
I have been here(CM)for quite sometime and although I do slip sometimes when I am in a bad mood, I am getting better at letting things go until I can respond with-out emotions guiding my words....I am still learning and practicing.
My appologies to the boards for letting my emotions to get the best of me last night.

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RE: It's beginning to look at lot like Nutterville arou... - 8/31/2005 3:12:40 PM   
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Good Lord! What brought this on? Raven seems ok to me..what am i missing? Why the major flame? All's He said was a woman's beauty would not move Him if she were an ugly person inside..i feel the same about the One is seek.

pinkpleasures


Not that I think I owe you an appology pinkpleaaaasures, you can see my edited post, where I explained myself and appologized to the boards. I had a bad day and didn't separate my mood from my responces.

I felt Raven was mean-spirited in his responce to Lily. Some people embrace certain people here, and some have no desire to interact with others. Just because we are all part of CM does not mean we agree and/or respect what everyone has to say here.

You have the choice to embrace Raven and imtempting, I also make my choices.
WHen reading your posts it seems to me that you have a false sense of thinking that because you see things a certain way, everyone should, and if they don't then they are somehow defective. Your way is just that, your way, your thoughts, your feelings, they are not universal truths.

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RE: It's beginning to look at lot like Nutterville arou... - 8/31/2005 3:35:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: NakedOnMyChain

Yes, John, I agree. Quality is important. However, my husband and I aren't exactly rich. In fact, we have exactly enough money to make ends meet. That's all. We're young, recently married, and doing the best we can with improvisational Walmart toys. They may not be high in the quality department, but I love every minute of using them. My husband and I may not have enough money to furnish a dungeon, or buy expensive fetish outfits, but we have a good time with each other in any way we can. It doesn't make us any less active in the lifestyle. He and I will have to work our way up to quality, I guess.


Lass I couldn't agree more. I'll spend big on essentials like tools and car or computer repairs as that is money well spent. Now as far as home things go, I buy cheap coffee machines because I dont have the kitchen space to install a commercial one and the perculator is on 24/7. Ergo I replace it twice a year. Furnatute, hell i head off to the opp shop for pieces, dismantle them and rebuild to my specifications (I'm converting two queen sized beds into four posters reinforcing the oregan uprights (ex wearhouse construction material) with steel and adding custom made (I'm forging them from scrap) wrought iron rings as restraint points. I can and do head off to the recycled timber yards and when home redress the timber and prefer to make my own seating and tables. Hence the need for tradesman quality tools. Buil;ding renovations is a hobby of mine anyway when In can actually potter about abnd do the jobs. All this saves a heap of money. I too look for good bargins but I have found in the past that some really cheap gear is just flushing cash down the drain. Clothing.. My daily gear about the house is what ever i can find that fits at a cheap price.. Suits and business gear, hell no it costs and I perfer top quality... It was always easier to have a tailor alter a good suit to handle shioulder holsters etc than a cheap one.

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You have the choice to embrace Raven and imtempting, I also make my choices.
WHen reading your posts it seems to me that you have a false sense of thinking that because you see things a certain way, everyone should, and if they don't then they are somehow defective. Your way is just that, your way, your thoughts, your feelings, they are not universal truths.

*Brightspot


I agree that we all make our choices. It happens daily. We chose friends and who we wish to associate with. We may even choose to suport a complete stranger or some one we dont know personally for no other reason that we find them saying or doing something we agree with. We may even support them because we see others opposing them in a manner which we feel is unnecessary or unjust. These are our choices and it is our right to make them. each and every one of us. We also each have our own ways of thinking, speaking and doing. That to is a right we do have. Whilst our feelings and thoughts are indeed not universal truths, they are also our way. Feelings, thoughts, beliefs and choices are like our opinions we all have them just as we all have arseholes. This is why it is sometimes to back off and agree to disagree or avoid those who we find annoying.

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Off Topic - 8/31/2005 4:19:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		This thread has gone off course, I now ask that if you have nothing positive to contribute you move along to another thread, one that you have an interest in and can contribute to in a positive manner.

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RE: Off Topic - 8/31/2005 8:46:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		walgreen's sells a very nice massage table at a really reasonable price. It also folds up and stows away, I got to try it out at some friends for a casual play get together.

So that covers all three points, buying something of quality at a reasonable price while actively participating in some kinky stuff offline.

hey mods! where is my gold star sticker? ;)

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RE: It's beginning to look at lot like Nutterville arou... - 9/1/2005 12:31:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		Excuse me, you may of just been joking but I don't think that was really a fair or accurate way of telling who's online only. I practise real life and I am active in the events here, whoever I am not into nipple clamps nor any sort of breast play, that does not however indicate I am online only.


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. One of the favorite ways (not perfect but good) to detect an online only is to ask"how do you (does your sub) feel when the nipple clamps come off after a long time?"



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RE: It's beginning to look at lot like Nutterville arou... - 9/1/2005 1:52:12 AM   
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. One of the favorite ways (not perfect but good) to detect an online only is to ask"how do you (does your sub) feel when the nipple clamps come off after a long time?"


Excuse me, you may of just been joking but I don't think that was really a fair or accurate way of telling who's online only. I practise real life and I am active in the events here, whoever I am not into nipple clamps nor any sort of breast play, that does not however indicate I am online only.



Also, right at the beginning, when Master and I were still 'online only', we used cams and nipple torture... I knew how the pegs (clothespins) felt when they came off...

I think what the poster was referring to was 'cyber only' (typing what you're not doing), rather than other kinds of Online interaction... but some people don't make a distinction.

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RE: It's beginning to look at lot like Nutterville arou... - 9/1/2005 3:10:12 AM   
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What? Knowing how to get good stuff without paying a lot is what you've learned to expect from me? I have outfits, shoes, computer cords, CDs, games, books, you name it, that I bought at thrift stores and mega-chains well over 5 years ago and are still just as useful and great today.



I'm not so hot on Wal-Mart, but boy do I agree with you when it comes to good bargains on nice stuff at the thrift stores. It wasn't but a few years back, when I picked up an older Loveless Hunter for twenty bucks at an out-of-the-way thrift store that I always check for bargains. Of course, the place is subsidized by a church and the Women working there had no idea what they had just sold me. To this day, I check the place out every few weeks.


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RE: It's beginning to look at lot like Nutterville arou... - 9/1/2005 5:26:19 AM   
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. One of the favorite ways (not perfect but good) to detect an online only is to ask"how do you (does your sub) feel when the nipple clamps come off after a long time?"


Excuse me, you may of just been joking but I don't think that was really a fair or accurate way of telling who's online only. I practise real life and I am active in the events here, whoever I am not into nipple clamps nor any sort of breast play, that does not however indicate I am online only.



Also, right at the beginning, when Master and I were still 'online only', we used cams and nipple torture... I knew how the pegs (clothespins) felt when they came off...

I think what the poster was referring to was 'cyber only' (typing what you're not doing), rather than other kinds of Online interaction... but some people don't make a distinction.

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You nailed it in one.

Actually, I don't really have any objection to the 'cyber only' crew but it's not my scene so if someone seems to be talking with me with an intention of having a scene, I'm very interested in distinguishing what her experience really is. There have been too many occasions where people have tried to pass off online scenes as face to face ones. (Jay Wiseman has a hilarious story about how he got caught just that way.)

As for the initial reply, I assume she's say "I don't know" which is a perfectly valid response so I don't see how it is somehow unfair.


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RE: It's beginning to look at lot like Nutterville arou... - 9/1/2005 6:41:35 AM   
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RE: It's beginning to look at lot like Nutterville arou... - 9/1/2005 6:47:31 AM   
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RE: It's beginning to look at lot like Nutterville arou... - 9/1/2005 7:16:44 AM   
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I agree that we all make our choices. It happens daily. We chose friends and who we wish to associate with. We may even choose to suport a complete stranger or some one we dont know personally for no other reason that we find them saying or doing something we agree with. We may even support them because we see others opposing them in a manner which we feel is unnecessary or unjust. These are our choices and it is our right to make them. each and every one of us. We also each have our own ways of thinking, speaking and doing. That to is a right we do have. Whilst our feelings and thoughts are indeed not universal truths, they are also our way. Feelings, thoughts, beliefs and choices are like our opinions we all have them just as we all have arseholes. This is why it is sometimes to back off and agree to disagree or avoid those who we find annoying.

IronBear


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You have the choice to embrace Raven and imtempting, I also make my choices.
WHen reading your posts it seems to me that you have a false sense of thinking that because you see things a certain way, everyone should, and if they don't then they are somehow defective. Your way is just that, your way, your thoughts, your feelings, they are not universal truths.

*Brightspot


First, i do not know enough of Lily, Raven or Imtempting to call A/anyone a friend or "embrace" them. i did think Lily's Op was a bit innane, but we are able to discuss anything (e.g., the "Acts of God Riddle") and she was certainly free to start her thread. i just was kinda taken aback at the attacks on Raven and Imtempting; and appreciate that you have revised your post to explain and apologise. But now what's this attack on me? You dislike what i write...or how i write it? My "false sense of thinking"? By their very nature, none of my posts is authoritative apart from me, my opinions and my experience. Nobody has to agree.

In my opinion, W/we do owe one another a modicum of respect. i know some disagree; but if not respect, then courtesy. i saw nothing especially disrespectful in what Raven wrote; in fact it made Him sound admirable. i would never have even guessed He was in any way insulting Lily unless you went off on Him, brightspot. i think we are too tense; too defensive; to prepared to attack; and not sufficiently geared towards listening, accepting and respecting. Not only brightspot, but many people here. We need to lower the thermostat and discourse on ideas; not form cliques and post insults.

IronBear; it may be a mistake, but it seems many experienced Doms and Masters deal with local tradesmen and also make some things, even furniture, by hand. Such an object would certainly seem more beautiful to me. i am adding that to my "wish list" for my ideal Dom or Master.

pinkpleasures

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RE: It's beginning to look at lot like Nutterville arou... - 9/1/2005 8:37:01 AM   
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Is it me, or do the topics seem to be lacking in any real basis of fact lately? Does anyone actually have any experience in the scene anymore? Aside from the obvious ones, which I count about 20 at best, do any of the rest of you actually get away from the computer and actually practice your kinks with someone else?

I'm all for exploration and discussion, but it's starting to sound like the inmates have taken over the assylum lately. For example, the latest "Fat Chick" thread BBW subs.... Hasn't this thread been done to death already?

Why aren't we getting topics like "How do I set up a safe call?" or "I just got this new awsome flogger, how do I keep it clean?" or "What should I expect from my first Munch?" Instead, we are dealing with pussy size, random rants (which I suppose this qualifies as) and equally base discussions.

I just find it disheartening to see so many people be so damned flip about the 'lifestyle' (which I tend to really hate as a term overall) and treat it like it's just a place to get laid. If that's all it was, most of us wouldn't put the time and effort into it and just go the vanilla route.



I figured I'd restate the Op's orignal post, as we seem to still be traveling from it again...

I think there are quite a few silly threads, rants started. I passed this one by for, I think, 2 days now wondering if I wanted to participate. Obviously I decided I did, if only to get back to your orignal post.

As others have stated the boards are free to whomever chooses to write about....almost anything. Cool... I can respect that. But instead of letting it bother you/me to the point of feeling the need to post about that which irritates you/me...another rant thread.... (no insult here, I can understand your frustration) I just open them up that have interesting titles....read some or all of it, and then possibly say.."ah, another one of these." close it and move on. And look for something that interests me, or I feel I have something to add that might be useful.

As you have all unfortunately seen, I have been sucked into useless flame throwing out of sheer disgust and frustration. Everyone has idiocy limits. However, I just chosen to simply not let it bother me anymore. So, those threads that pull at my sarcasm button.... I try to just pass on now. If I don't have anything I can add....positive or negative....hey, either way it can still be adding to the topic, and isn't flaming. ( I have a tight definition of flaming)

For some, this lifestyle...whatever you wanna call it... IS a place to get laid. It's all sexual for them. Cool...great... that's fine with me. It doesn't diminish me to know that for others.... sex is what's it's all about. I have a few friends who couldn't live the way I do. But they loovvveeee the play, because it is all sexual for them. And you make a great point, if it was like that for us all....well.... it would be vanilla. ..smiles.. and not so kinky, I guess.

Personally, this is what I love about all this. I don't share the same tendencies, or kinks with all my friends. But they are not less to me because of that. It's just what the need, or get their kicks from. I don't judge anyone else on what they need, or want to be happy (unles it's something that SHOULD be obvious to us all....like abuse to kids...murder....other extremes like that) Just as I EXPECT not to be judged by the things I like or need to do to be happy. That was initially one of the biggest aspects that I lvoed about this lifestyle. That all the nosy, nick picking... get-in-your-business-thinking-you-should-do-what-they-do cause it's the only right way people weren't here. Because we all had our own kinks, yours isn't better than mine...mine isn't better than yours. Thay are just different. Period.

Sorry I strayed.... I'm starting to rant myself.... so I'll leave it here... and hope to offer more when someone has commented, and/or responded...good or bad...whatever.

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