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RE: The Characteristics of being "property" - 1/28/2008 8:08:06 AM   
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Every time I hear somone describing themselves as "property" I remember being at the old swimmin hole at a motorcycle ralley.

On naked little nymph had a tatoo on the left cheek of her ass... "Owned and Operated by Tank, Renegades Motorcycle Club"

LMFAO
Now that's cool

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RE: The Characteristics of being "property" - 1/28/2008 11:45:16 AM   
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While I will agree that it is possible (anything is possible) that someone will give up their kidney for their Master's dinner, it will take quite a lot for me to consider it as plausible.


Well I do have two, after all. 


If we're going to go down this road of overblown Internet insanity, then I am out of the discussion


LOL I just saw this.

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RE: The Characteristics of being "property" - 1/28/2008 12:27:45 PM   
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I’ve noticed a group of wise posters… Doms, submissives and switches who realize we are only a cross section of the population who share an interest in BDSM. Trying to fit anyone or exclude anyone from anything is forged. There is no initiation or title required to join the common sense group.



That would make an awesome tag line!


Seconded!

[edited because I can't use quotes right, apparently. I need my coffee.]



Yep, you are both part of that group.

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RE: The Characteristics of being "property" - 1/28/2008 12:42:16 PM   
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methinks that you have struck on a kernel of truth there!

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RE: The Characteristics of being "property" - 1/28/2008 12:44:28 PM   
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then I plead total confusion!

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RE: The Characteristics of being "property" - 1/28/2008 12:46:22 PM   
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Indeed the whole thing can be a tangled mess of understanding.

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RE: The Characteristics of being "property" - 1/28/2008 12:50:15 PM   
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We have to call them as we see them! grins, does sound a bit snarky tho!

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RE: The Characteristics of being "property" - 1/28/2008 2:25:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think in BDSM relationships the term property is maily used like it would if you owned a pet.
If you can own your dog why not own your slave?
Since we're human for some reason lots think we're above being something that can be owned.
I say my Master owns me as I fully submit my will under his.
If you look at it like pet ownership that's more how it works in a M/s or D/s relationship.
It's the mantle of responsibility the Dominant person takes from the slave and carries for them.
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RE: The Characteristics of being "property" - 1/28/2008 3:29:04 PM   
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RE: The Characteristics of being "property" - 1/28/2008 4:37:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MercTech

Every time I hear somone describing themselves as "property" I remember being at the old swimmin hole at a motorcycle ralley.

On naked little nymph had a tatoo on the left cheek of her ass... "Owned and Operated by Tank, Renegades Motorcycle Club"

She was his to use, to be loaned out to brothers, and to service anyone he told her to.  She fetched beer, polished the bike, cooked his meals.  And waited patiently when he went off with someone else.  She was his property.

Stefan


I apologize to you MercTech but I feel I have to add a clarifier. Having been closely associated with 1%er clubs all my life I can tell you that what you describe is the exception rather than the rule. Yes, Old Ladies are considered property....but when you see that "Property of" patch it signifies a position of honor. Old Ladies are not the ones you see often passed around and shared. Bikers tend to be rather territorial when it comes to their women, and yes, as a rule they do tend to be a bit more adventurous sexually, but it is not common that a biker's old lady is shared amongst the club.

I tend to see that sort of thing happen much more often to the "groupies" that hang around and are willing to do anyone or anything for the chance of a ride on a motorcycle. I also tend to see it occuring far more often in newer, lower ranking clubs where the guys seem to be trying to carve a name for themselves.

I am certainly not saying that it never happens but I feel I had to say something because I (and a lot of other Old Ladies) have been fighting against exactly that stereotype forever. I get asked the question "Were you passed around?" frequently....and the answer would be an emphatic "No".

A "Property of" patch or tattoo is worn for several reasons. Number one it is a way of showing respect for your man and his club. It also tells others that you are very important to that man and disrespecting the person wearing it is the same as disrespecting her man. It says "Hands OFF - Owned".

Sure, you will see a biker's old lady polishing the bike. Most biker's old ladies wouldn't be caught dead riding behind their old man unless that bike is shining....a dirty bike would be a reflection on HER. Yes, most biker's old ladies cook their meals, clean their houses and fetch their beer...and many other things. All part of being a good old lady and probably factored into the very reason why they are an "old lady" wearing a property patch and not just another one of the groupies. But it is not often that they are shared.

Just needed to clarify.

And gosh, I also really hope that the name and club name that you used were fictitious.

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RE: The Characteristics of being "property" - 1/28/2008 5:33:29 PM   
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Have you ever pondered the serious nature of being 'property" Every time that I have the time to sign on I always take the time to read the first profile that comes up on the list; thus this post!

I am seeing more and more descriptions by submissives that describe themselves as property of_____. Does the mindset of being property truely hit with a high level of conscienceness or it it a growing fashion on the path be refer to the relationship as property?

CP

It is a growing fashion. But the term property was so much a part of my childhood where it was just a term the blokes used about their women...in pub brawls and on the streets.

Like; Fk off mate, she's mine, keep yer fkn hands off er she's my property, she's my old lady ok......Hard edged possession, that usually went with marriage prior to the later 1960's.....being a bloke's property meant that you took wayever treatment he doled out to you: bruises on parts of your body where no-one could see them, and a good slappin when you didn't get dinner on the table in time or gave another bloke the eye down the pub....or just because he came home pissed on a Saturday afternoon, threw the dinner at you, sat down in front of the black and white to watch the wrestling and then copped you one when he came round with a blinder....

Today? property is a fetishised version of what it meant when it was outside of bdsm.....but my Master doesn't play at it. I am His propeerty and i know He means it in probably in both ways: in the way i have described above and in bdsm terms. He won't release me from being 'his'....there's no fancy ring to show i am His and there has been and there will be, as far as i am aware, never marriage to prove it to anyone. He treats me with the same degree of respect as other pieces of property, sometimes neglected, sometimes left, and sometimes re-discovered as if new with absolute attention and fascination.

He won't let another man or woman trespass without His prior consent but He does loan me in return for using another's property....He told me last night He was impressed by me...and that's what i will strive for: to be the best piece of property He has.....when i have mood dips, or fear or any anxiety, i just remember that i am His property and that if i ever really needed anything and i askedm then i know in my heart He would give it to me if it were in His powers to be able to do so....for now, for Him to esteem me, for Him to become as aroused as He does, for Him to be able to bring His anger to me also, it's very special and vecomes more special as each day passes. As He is much younger than i i had a thought today that went: i hope i am still His property when i die and He will be there at that moent and hold me...............
ed to add and yes He was a biker so he also knows that code as well and yes i cleann, cook, serve and wait on Him and sometimes He simply sends a text saying Property or whispers it in my ear.....there's a code of behaviour i simply understand not to digress.....


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RE: The Characteristics of being "property" - 1/28/2008 6:34:21 PM   
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Indeed the perils of being real property in the minds eye!

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RE: The Characteristics of being "property" - 1/29/2008 7:21:12 AM   
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Thanks for your input;but have you considered the car analogy noted in this thread? Would you take any action if Master set you asie like an old car and never pay you any attention? The car would just sit there as property; how aout you?

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RE: The Characteristics of being "property" - 1/29/2008 7:28:02 AM   
CelticPrince


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Well girl, what can be said other then your a rare one and I truely hopes he values you to an equal level.

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RE: The Characteristics of being "property" - 1/29/2008 10:53:10 AM   
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i think there is sort of a "fad" happening....as there always is in BDSM (in any aspect of life). when i actually look at submissive's profiles, i notice the same trend. but it happens on the flip side with Dominant's profiles too: "Looking for a slave to be property..." "So and so is my property", etc, etc. But calling yourself, or someone else, property has a completely different meaning to me, i guess.

i've been in a contractual Master/slave relationship before and i was, quite literally, His property and happily so. There was nothing i could do to myself without His permission, from cutting my hair (even just a trim) to getting tattoos, masturbating to having sex. i had to have His permission - but more then that i WANTED His permission. i felt Owned by Him completely, totally and in every sense of the word, and i had no desire whatsoever to suffer His wrath by screwing with His things.

Property to me, moves to a realm of submission even beyond slavery. i don't know that i can describe it very well as it really is a personal feeling and way of thinking, but i know that my personal submission has many different levels. i can submit to many, be a slave to very few, and be property only rarely. i love to submit, am happier when i can be a slave, and am in heaven when i'm property. i don't know that i'm making much sense, though.


Perfect sense actually and i couldn't say it bettter myself as i feel exactly the same way and honestly cant imagine being with anyone but, the one who holds all of me now.

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RE: The Characteristics of being "property" - 1/29/2008 12:36:37 PM   
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i can only answer for myself as to why i consider myself to be the property of my Master.
 
i am His property because He owns me.  i belong to Him and only Him. 
 
He owns me because that is what both He and i wanted when i entered into a relationship with Him.  Before He took possession of me, i had sole ownership of myself and i freely, willingly, and gladly handed ownership of myself over to Him. 
 
As my Owner, my Master has:
 
exclusive rights to possess, control, use, and enjoy me.
He named me. 
He provides for me. 
He is responsible for my safety, care, and well-being. 
He makes the decisions about what i can and cannot do.

Should a time come when my Master stopped owning me, for whatever reason, i would regain sole ownership of myself and resume the same care and responsibility for myself that i had prior to being owned by my Master.
 
There are many different types of property, both animate and inanimate.  i am of the animate variety.  i am living, breathing, thinking, and feeling property, with needs that must be taken into consideration, in order to sustain my life in good working order.  i am not treated like some inanimate object, except when He chooses to use me as His personal footstool or urinal.  But, even then, He shows a much deeper level of appreciation and care for me that He doesn't show toward His other possessions.
 
i am not treated like just any other piece of property.  i am treated like a unique, irreplaceable, and priceless living being, who is owned by a very caring Master.  In fact, my Master treats me so much better than i have ever been treated by anyone before, both in my D/s and non-D/s relationships, which was never bad but, just not with the same level of care that i am treated with now.
 
Not all property or possessions are equal in value or in how they are treated.  Different possessions are treated differently.  A pet or livestock is not going to be treated the same as a pair of shoes or a set of golf clubs or a coffee pot.
 
Some possessions aren't needed very often and are kept in a box or a drawer or a storage shed, until they are needed.  i'm not.  i'm needed all the time and i'm used all the time. 
 
Some possesions are for a one-time only use or, for only a very limited time period and then, disposed of.  i'm not.  i'm here for life, both His and mine. 
 
Some possessions are easy to come by and don't require much effort to replace.  i'm not.  It took my Master many years to find me and He values me and is intent on keeping me.

Then again, not all people treat their possessions, as well as other people do.  Some people don't take care of their property and they let it go to waste.  Some people don't take care of their pets, as well as other people.  Some people don't take care of their cars, as well as other people.  Some people don't even take care of their own bodies, as well as other people do.  i certainly wouldn't become the property of someone who didn't take good care of their possessions or treated all of their property as if it were all equal in value.
 
As far as i'm concerned, how 2 people choose to define their relationship is up to them, according to their own particular criteria.  It's not dependent on how others define relationships or on the criteria that others use.
 
joy
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RE: The Characteristics of being "property" - 1/29/2008 12:59:13 PM   
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onestanding,

Thanks for your input;but have you considered the car analogy noted in this thread? Would you take any action if Master set you asie like an old car and never pay you any attention? The car would just sit there as property; how aout you?

CP

Yes I considered the like a car statement.
I too have used that analogy in the past saying a fine slave is like a Ferrari.
If you don't do the proper care and maintenance then try to drive it it'll leave you on the side of the road needing a lift.

In my first D/s relationship (Oh God How Stupid I was) the Dom quarantined me for 3 months from speaking except at work and to his kids, made me remove all my profiles & accounts online (use to be plantlady64 in here), and told me I was not to have any community involvement till he felt I was trained better.
So yes I was basically stuck on a shelf except to cook, clean, go to work, and take care of his home and lil ones for 3 months.
I did not fuss or bitch, but rather cried when ever I was not going to be seen doing it and I even contemplated suicide.

Did I disobey? No, Should I have disobeyed? HELL YES!!
I got smart and left that Dom 7/06 after he physically attacked me as I'd stayed through emotional abuse but still had enough common sense to not be physically abused too..
Would I do a solitary confinement again?
Depends on the circumstances and why it's being requested of me.

I realize not everyone has or should have my perspective.
I personally mean what I say and don't paint shades of gray around me.
My choices are pretty black and white.
For me it's Obey Master in all requests that I humanly can so I can feel like his good girl.
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RE: The Characteristics of being "property" - 1/29/2008 1:01:10 PM   
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Your statement is beautiful.
Thanks for sharing.
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RE: The Characteristics of being "property" - 1/30/2008 9:52:44 AM   
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Ok I am still not certain where you stand on the issue of property tho you appear to have a handle on it. How long would you stand unattended before your personal pride kicked in and siad I am not property to be ignored.

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RE: The Characteristics of being "property" - 1/30/2008 10:26:29 AM   
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How long would you stand unattended before your personal pride kicked in and siad I am not property to be ignored.

Now THAT...is the question

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