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What a strapon dildo training can bring to a dominate m... - 1/29/2008 11:47:42 AM   
kyang777


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I read an interview with a well known mistress ahd she said that "nothing works better than a strapon dildo training to remove all the manhood a male sub still feels he has', do your mistresses agree with this?

Overall, what fun, excitment, satisfaction, orgasm, etc can a good strap on session bring to mistresses themselves?
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RE: What a strapon dildo training can bring to a domina... - 1/29/2008 11:53:09 AM   
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No I don't agree with the statement that Mistress made. I don't want to remove my submales manhood, I happen to really like men a lot. What I want to do is have my fun with him and send him flying out into subspace. Part of my fun is taking his ass with a strapon it gives me a feeling of power, power over him, power over his pleasure and power  to use him as I will (within our limits).

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RE: What a strapon dildo training can bring to a domina... - 1/29/2008 12:16:31 PM   
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No I don't agree with the statement that Mistress made. I don't want to remove my submales manhood, I happen to really like men a lot. What I want to do is have my fun with him and send him flying out into subspace. Part of my fun is taking his ass with a strapon it gives me a feeling of power, power over him, power over his pleasure and power  to use him as I will (within our limits).

~Lashra



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RE: What a strapon dildo training can bring to a domina... - 1/29/2008 12:33:01 PM   
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A more interesting dispute is whether female dominants feel that appropriating the male shape in order to feel sexual power contributes to the diminution of their innate power as women.

But I think that's been asked a thousand times as well.

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RE: What a strapon dildo training can bring to a domina... - 1/29/2008 12:40:07 PM   
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ORIGINAL: hands0n0knees

A more interesting dispute is whether female dominants feel that appropriating the male shape in order to feel sexual power contributes to the diminution of their innate power as women.

But I think that's been asked a thousand times as well.


My answer is: No

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RE: What a strapon dildo training can bring to a domina... - 1/29/2008 12:48:32 PM   
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ORIGINAL: hands0n0knees

A more interesting dispute is whether female dominants feel that appropriating the male shape in order to feel sexual power contributes to the diminution of their innate power as women.

But I think that's been asked a thousand times as well.



Well, I can just offer my perspective...  My Owner rarely uses strapon play, and she's quite a bit more dominanting when we're haveing traditional intercourse.  Our positions don't really matter.  While she's pysically dominant no matter our position, she's also psychologically dominant as well.

If you look up sexual power in the dictionary, it'll show a picture of her sipping on coffee out of her Eeyore mug.  Words can't begin to describe what a powerful person she is on a sexual level.

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RE: What a strapon dildo training can bring to a domina... - 1/29/2008 12:54:56 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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ORIGINAL: Lashra

No I don't agree with the statement that Mistress made. I don't want to remove my submales manhood, I happen to really like men a lot. What I want to do is have my fun with him and send him flying out into subspace. Part of my fun is taking his ass with a strapon it gives me a feeling of power, power over him, power over his pleasure and power  to use him as I will (within our limits).

~Lashra



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RE: What a strapon dildo training can bring to a domina... - 1/29/2008 12:56:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: hands0n0knees

A more interesting dispute is whether female dominants feel that appropriating the male shape in order to feel sexual power contributes to the diminution of their innate power as women.

But I think that's been asked a thousand times as well.



Nothing can diminish or take away the woman that I am.  Evah---

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RE: What a strapon dildo training can bring to a domina... - 1/29/2008 1:05:10 PM   
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Nothing can diminish or take away the woman that I am.  Evah---


Excepting death, I'm sure that's true: nobody can take away the power of the phallus from you, unless you leave it out in the sun until its plastic melts.

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RE: What a strapon dildo training can bring to a domina... - 1/29/2008 3:53:46 PM   
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Don`t know about taking away my *manhood*....
 
It certainly humbled...me.
 
Tsk Tsk...

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RE: What a strapon dildo training can bring to a domina... - 1/29/2008 4:08:52 PM   
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I do it cuz, it's fun....


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RE: What a strapon dildo training can bring to a domina... - 1/29/2008 4:33:21 PM   
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It can be great exercise. 

I find that the whole phallic component of strapon play has way more significance to the sub than to me. At this stage in my skill level I can acheive the physical goal on a boy easier with a hand held dildo or my fist than with a strap on.  And I am talking along the same lines of what Lashra is refering too.  The physical sensation a fella gets from prostate stimulation is really fun to introduce to a sub....they become ohh so doe eyed and devoted cause they want more not because they are wanting more of that sensation not because they have been stripped of their "manhood".  In many ways it takes a fella who is much more mature and secure in his sexuality to get the benefit of such play. 

I find there is a somewhat separate  group of sub men for whom the whole trigger is the "chick with a dick" mental tweak that strapon play engenders - for them often the anal play that "send" them is strapon as opposed to any other type of anal play.  This is just my experience and of course flawed by sweeping generalizations but may help some.

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RE: What a strapon dildo training can bring to a domina... - 1/29/2008 5:23:35 PM   
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To argue the opposite, Bitchy Jones had a really fantastic rant on her journal today about femdom and strapons -- http://bitchyjones.wordpress.com -- and how they force a phallocentric sense of power upon a woman when we're powerful WITHOUT the cock.

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RE: What a strapon dildo training can bring to a domina... - 1/29/2008 5:30:32 PM   
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If I want a power trip, I go for fisting.  If I am playing with an anal slut that I really really like, I will use a strapon.  Nothing wrong with a guy liking anal sex---they do have prostates, after all!  I like my guys to be guys.

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RE: What a strapon dildo training can bring to a domina... - 1/29/2008 5:46:23 PM   
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Lashra, I like your opinion better.

Here is the original interview note: (I left out th interviewer and mistress's pen name)

Interviewer: Do You offer strap-on training?

Mistress-xxx: Oh yes I truly enjoy having a sissy or a boy bent before me holding his ankles for dear life as I fuck him until he screams for mercy! I feel it is truly important when training male pets who still think they have a little manhood left. Nothing takes that away like being ass raped!

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RE: What a strapon dildo training can bring to a domina... - 1/30/2008 5:27:29 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ocilla

In many ways it takes a fella who is much more mature and secure in his sexuality to get the benefit of such play. 

I agree with this statement.  I recently met a vanilla man and was open and honest about who I am. Amazingly he had no problems with it, initially.  He spent a lot of time asking questions, which I was more than happy to answer. 
 
His thoughts and opinions were typically stereotyped but he began to express a better understanding of the lifestyle.  However, he began to talk about how he would never allow himself as a "man" to be in the position to be dominated by a woman in any manner.  Yet he claimed he wanted him and his woman to be "equal in all things".  I don't know that sounds to you dear readers of this post, but it sounds like an oxymoron to me and/or contradiction.
 
Long story short, it got to the point that he decided he would allow mild play (all for his "research" purposes) (yeah right!),  He convinced me that he really wanted to because I was right about him limiting himself to missionary positioned sex, with him (of course) being on top and he wanted to experience something new.
 
Fast forward to the Day of the planned "experience": 
 
My mantra for the "experience" was "go slowly, go slowly, baby stepping all the way".  I didn't plan on doing anything remotely related to any type of BDSM activities.  This was going to be straight, with me taking lead and he knew that.  It started off well enough but the minute, no make that the second I began to take the lead position he shut down.  He couldn't get past a woman taking lead in a sexual encounter. 
 
Once a counselor always a counselor because after he was able to get it together enough, I wanted to process the "experience" with him.  In a nutshell he said having a woman lead goes against everything he was taught or experienced as a man.  He said he, "felt like a sissy", didn't feel strong (I didn't recall cutting any locks of hair off Samson's hair) and because he never had a woman make love to him before, he "wasn't use to it" therefore he didn't "know how to act" and what he "should do".  I told him to relax and go along for the ride. 
 
He chose not to but then wanted to proceed with him taking lead.  I was so not in the mood after that and therefore nothing happened.  I told him that I thought it best we have a strictly platonic relationship and of course this didn't sit to well with him.  What makes this whole situation more ironic is, he enjoyed what was done (which was very little) but that pleasure put him in an emotional conflict.  He questioned his manhood, sexual beliefs, and other notions he has about being alpha male.  I think it would have been better for him if he didn't get anything out of it at all, rather than feel excitment and then feel bad about himself for feeling good.
 
It's his conflict and his internal battle and I'm letting him own it.  I have to admit I felt sympathy for him, like so many others I've known, because of the insecurities they put themselves through when it comes to their sexuality. 
 
"No I don't agree with the statement that Mistress made. I don't want to remove my submales manhood, I happen to really like men a lot. What I want to do is have my fun with him and send him flying out into subspace. Part of my fun is taking his ass with a strapon it gives me a feeling of power, power over him, power over his pleasure and power  to use him as I will (within our limits)."

~Lashra

I couldn't have said it better Lashra!  If I do use a strapon it's with submales that enjoy it.  It gives me a rush.  I choose not to "break" someone into it if it's a real limit because I don't get anything out of it.  Some would say, "get him to like it, you're the Domme!"  That may be true, but if it isn't floating my boat, I'm not doing it.  For this I want the willing!  You know the saying, choose your battles wisely?  Though he may be willing but not able to take it... getting him able is what I enjoy!  Baby stepping all the way!
 
Faye
 
 

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RE: What a strapon dildo training can bring to a domina... - 1/30/2008 5:32:57 AM   
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The person who you quote or paraphrase is someone who is stuck on a very simple level of understanding human relationships.

If she believes that penetration = control then she is sadly lacking in other skills and abilities and has low expectations for those she interacts with.

The vast majority of actions have not innate value related to dominance or submissive, good or evil, positive or negative. They get value from the motivation and consent of those involved.

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RE: What a strapon dildo training can bring to a domina... - 1/30/2008 9:39:56 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: hands0n0knees

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ORIGINAL: LadyHathor
Nothing can diminish or take away the woman that I am.  Evah---


Excepting death, I'm sure that's true: nobody can take away the power of the phallus from you, unless you leave it out in the sun until its plastic melts.



which is why I have a glass dildo - best for having my subs beg to suck - nothing better than a diswasher safe cock!

As for strap on/anal play - and diminishing the power of being a woman ...a woman has the versatility to add a cock to play, but a man can't add a cunt, now can he?


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RE: What a strapon dildo training can bring to a domina... - 1/30/2008 10:41:08 AM   
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ORIGINAL: AtlantaMistress

quote:

ORIGINAL: hands0n0knees

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ORIGINAL: LadyHathor
Nothing can diminish or take away the woman that I am.  Evah---


Excepting death, I'm sure that's true: nobody can take away the power of the phallus from you, unless you leave it out in the sun until its plastic melts.



which is why I have a glass dildo - best for having my subs beg to suck - nothing better than a diswasher safe cock!

As for strap on/anal play - and diminishing the power of being a woman ...a woman has the versatility to add a cock to play, but a man can't add a cunt, now can he?



No, and he never would.  Do you know any doms that attempt to take the form of a female in order to better dominate their female subs?  I certainly don't.  It just wouldn't make them more powerful, would it?

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RE: What a strapon dildo training can bring to a domina... - 1/30/2008 10:44:35 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MisPandora

To argue the opposite, Bitchy Jones had a really fantastic rant on her journal today about femdom and strapons -- http://bitchyjones.wordpress.com -- and how they force a phallocentric sense of power upon a woman when we're powerful WITHOUT the cock.


I recommend this link to the dommes who so unartfully disagree with the assertion at hand.

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