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How should a sub act around others? - 1/31/2008 12:02:54 PM   
LivingForce


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Status: offline 		I think like this...  My submissive is my submissive.  She needs to show respect around me because I am her owner.  I have taken the time to train and mold her into the submissive I wish her to be.  Around others that she doesn't know or only sees at certain times..  even around other Dominat/submissives I think she needs to be her own person and treat them how she feels they should be treated.  Even if that way is harsh or rude or unrespectful by one standard or another shes my submissive shes not submissive or a slave to everyone around her... she needs to please me because I am her owner...  

What are your thoughts on this?


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RE: How should a sub act around others? - 1/31/2008 12:13:28 PM   
breatheasone


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I think like this...  My submissive is my submissive.  She needs to show respect around me because I am her owner.  I have taken the time to train and mold her into the submissive I wish her to be.  Around others that she doesn't know or only sees at certain times..  even around other Dominat/submissives I think she needs to be her own person and treat them how she feels they should be treated.  Even if that way is harsh or rude or unrespectful by one standard or another shes my submissive shes not submissive or a slave to everyone around her... she needs to please me because I am her owner...  

What are your thoughts on this?


My Master feels the same way, I am His slave not anyone elses....HOWEVER....He would never allow me to be  "harsh or rude or unrespectful"

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RE: How should a sub act around others? - 1/31/2008 12:18:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		Wait a min. She needs to treat you with respect and me like a bum. I think it should be the other way around.

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RE: How should a sub act around others? - 1/31/2008 12:22:25 PM   
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she is a reflection of you, if she is harsh and rude, others will think that of you


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RE: How should a sub act around others? - 1/31/2008 12:23:40 PM   
thetammyjo


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Status: offline 		I like how Fox acts -- I take little credit for it, his parents raised him to be a gentleman.

And that is how he acts: A gentleman.

One can be strong, intelligence, and very much a unique individual and still be a gentleman.

I get compliments on his behavior all the time and I merely thank people and if they push for how I did it, I say I choose him carefully but his parents desire the bulk of the praise.

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RE: How should a sub act around others? - 1/31/2008 12:37:20 PM   
DesFIP


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Status: offline 		Some people are assholes. If they treat you with disrespect, they don't deserve obsequiousness in return.

Meaning if a strange D comes up at a dungeon and demands a bj, he deserves rudeness in response.

I'm shocked that you had to teach her how to behave with ordinary manners to begin with in order for her to talk to you politely. I think she ought to have learned that at home years ago.

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RE: How should a sub act around others? - 1/31/2008 12:40:37 PM   
szobras


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Status: offline 		My thoughts are this..
My submissive IS herself regardless of who's company she is in. Be it mine, or any one elses. I would not care for her to act as"someone else, at any time. She submits to my authority, and mine alone, though certainly that does not mean she should conduct herself  in a rude or disrespectful to manner to anyone.

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RE: How should a sub act around others? - 1/31/2008 12:42:45 PM   
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How should a sub act around others?


Like herself.


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RE: How should a sub act around others? - 1/31/2008 12:43:19 PM   
LivingForce


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Status: offline 		Let me rephrase myself..  Myself I tend to be sarcastic or rude to others without knowing it..  Now I do treat people I deem that need to be treated with respect that respect.   Some people as soon as I get a first impression about them I give them no respect at all.  Now I do treat people how I want to be treated and that is how I would want my submissive to treat others as well.  If I saw my submissive treating someone without outright rudeness I would figure out why and make my decision from there.  Does that make sense?

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RE: How should a sub act around others? - 1/31/2008 12:44:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LivingForce

I think like this...  My submissive is my submissive.  She needs to show respect around me because I am her owner.  I have taken the time to train and mold her into the submissive I wish her to be.  Around others that she doesn't know or only sees at certain times..  even around other Dominat/submissives I think she needs to be her own person and treat them how she feels they should be treated.  Even if that way is harsh or rude or unrespectful by one standard or another shes my submissive shes not submissive or a slave to everyone around her... she needs to please me because I am her owner...  

What are your thoughts on this?



One of the standing rules of my house is that slaves are to be constantly mindful that they are a reflection upon me and my house, and to conduct themselves accordingly in all places and at all times.


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RE: How should a sub act around others? - 1/31/2008 12:47:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		i am always required to act in a respectful manner.  It does not matter if the people i am interacting with know i am His or not.  In showing respect to others i am pleasing Him.  Showing respect does NOT equate to submitting to, IMHO.

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RE: How should a sub act around others? - 1/31/2008 12:50:46 PM   
sweetwenchie


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quote:

ORIGINAL: LivingForce

Let me rephrase myself..  Myself I tend to be sarcastic or rude to others without knowing it..  Now I do treat people I deem that need to be treated with respect that respect.   Some people as soon as I get a first impression about them I give them no respect at all.  Now I do treat people how I want to be treated and that is how I would want my submissive to treat others as well.  If I saw my submissive treating someone without outright rudeness I would figure out why and make my decision from there.  Does that make sense?


Well then, her being rude and disrespectful to anyone she wishes truly is just a reflection of you.   

< Message edited by sweetwenchie -- 1/31/2008 12:51:42 PM >

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RE: How should a sub act around others? - 1/31/2008 12:55:37 PM   
Jeffff


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Status: offline 		Mine needs  to please only me, no caveats, no hedging. I am not the sort to give a shit about others opinions of my relationship. She has a brain, I expect her to use it.

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RE: How should a sub act around others? - 1/31/2008 1:05:50 PM   
RCdc


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Status: offline 		Darcy doesn't want me to 'act' anything.  I am to be myself.
And do we really have to go throught he whole 'respect' issue again?  It's getting like the sub vs. slave debates.
 
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RE: How should a sub act around others? - 1/31/2008 1:06:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: velvetslave

i am always required to act in a respectful manner.  It does not matter if the people i am interacting with know i am His or not.  In showing respect to others i am pleasing Him.  Showing respect does NOT equate to submitting to, IMHO.

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RE: How should a sub act around others? - 1/31/2008 1:07:43 PM   
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Darcy doesn't want me to 'act' anything. I am to be myself.


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I agree completely
Why do people have to pretend they are something/someone else, under the guise of submission?


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RE: How should a sub act around others? - 1/31/2008 1:10:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am to treat others in a respectful manner at all times, if possible.  I would do that even if it weren't a standing order.

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RE: How should a sub act around others? - 1/31/2008 1:10:50 PM   
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quote:

Darcy doesn't want me to 'act' anything. I am to be myself.
sigh
I agree completely
Why do people have to pretend they are something/someone else, under the guise of submission?


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RE: How should a sub act around others? - 1/31/2008 1:22:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		Manners are always a good thing no matter where you are or who you are.

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RE: How should a sub act around others? - 1/31/2008 1:24:04 PM   
Jeffff


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Manners are always a good thing no matter where you are or who you are.


That is a given, but manners and courtesy apply, not matter your "role". They are not limited to the submissive

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